hell buff Heavies armour and nerf speed. Then it would take teamwork and tactics to kill them, and it would take teamwork and tactics for them to stay alive. Literally turn them into a mini-tank instead of a large assualt. They've been nerfed enough, put them in a specific role already.

I think the heavies fill their role really well. I use scout, assualt, and heavy suits. I use what is needed at the moment. The heavy is great for holding a position and defending with a squad helping with repairs, ammo, spotting, and backup. The heavy is easily overwhelmed though by a group effort. I have also taken down heavies alone with my assualt loadlout though. Use cover! your shields regen much faster than his armor. Never stop moving unless you are behind something and never run straight at them. Flank and strafe are the good ways to take a heavy down. Please no more nerfs.

a key argument here is cost...

it costs more SP to spec into heavy, it costs more ISK to equip a heavy.

A well rounded fit is no less than 60k ISK at this point of the build, approaching 100k... per SUIT

now most maps you get ballpark 200k ISK.. meaning a heavy dies 2-3 times.. they break even, and thats NOW, at this early stage.

early on.. yes Heavy is stronger than most other classes, but what these morons just don't get is that heavies are pretty much capped a month into the build, cant get a whole lot better.. very little incentive for proto over the advanced, while all other classes have huge advantages, and once they get their proto weapons the balance gets shifted... PLUS heavy STILL costs more.

whine some more about range will ya... heavy costs more SP to get sharpshooter than all other classes, so you're damn right it should get good damage at range when you put the work into it.

the worst part of it all.. I see way too many fools rollin around in a heavy right now, and most are oblivious. They think they are hot schit cause they can melt a militia suit, but i know when I face many of them, these heavies melts just as fast as other assaults...

everyone quit cryin and just play. In a month everyone will be bitching about mass drivers again when those get spammed everywhere.

our speed already sucks, just boost proto armor and shields back to what they where 2 builds ago, that way they aren't food for credon toting proto assaults

It really amazes me how many heavies keep saying they are fine. Nobody wants there things nerf, and I don't think suits need to be nerfed but their range needs to. But Zitro I spent sp in sharpshooter! And the AR vets didn't and you cried about range. So either they buff AR by 15-20% or hmg gets there range nerfed by 15-20% but i would take the nerf because the maps . At the current state hmg range is a joke, a bad one at that. 50m out and still dishing out decent damage is good for a heavy? But Zitro try a heavy it's harder than it looks! I have an alt with a hmg with no sharpshooter and it shoots too far. Just because a class has weaknesses doesn't means its balanced, just because your sharpshooter and other stats cost more doesn't make it balanced, and just cause your suit cost more doesn't mean it's balanced. But Zitro you gave a lot of reasons that heavies should be left alone! Shield tanks have very few drawbacks, one is of them being the cost of mods but does that make them balanced? Something costing more doesn't equal balanced. But Zitro heavies can only use hmgs and they need to be scary! And my tank should take be a win button, so stop with this stupid talk. Heavies dominate at CQC and they are very scary. But Zitro you should have to use tactics to kill heavies(infantry tanks)! How about real tanks? What about killing anything in this game? The fact is half the heavies don't play their class right and with the range as is it is right now is one reason half of the heavies can even get kills.
Now as for a heavy suit getting its slots rearranged I'm all for(maybe even adding an extra slot) but it needs to come with a hmg range nerf.

Sure, but if your going to boost defences, reduce mobility. It has to be a trade-off.
I run Assault with an AR mostly and I've gone up against plenty of heavies. They're fun to try to take down because of their firepower and armour. I'm saying go with that, drop the speed a little more so Assaults and Scouts can dance around them while they lay down huge volumes of fire.

Heavy with squad support should function like a tank with squad support imo.

It really amazes me how many heavies keep saying they are fine. Nobody wants there things nerf, and I don't think suits need to be nerfed but their range needs to. But Zitro I spent sp in sharpshooter! And the AR vets didn't and you cried about range. So either they buff AR by 15-20% or hmg gets there range nerfed by 15-20% but i would take the nerf because the maps . At the current state hmg range is a joke, a bad one at that. 50m out and still dishing out decent damage is good for a heavy? But Zitro try a heavy it's harder than it looks! I have an alt with a hmg with no sharpshooter and it shoots too far. Just because a class has weaknesses doesn't means its balanced, just because your sharpshooter and other stats cost more doesn't make it balanced, and just cause your suit cost more doesn't mean it's balanced. But Zitro you gave a lot of reasons that heavies should be left alone! Shield tanks have very few drawbacks, one is of them being the cost of mods but does that make them balanced? Something costing more doesn't equal balanced. But Zitro heavies can only use hmgs and they need to be scary! And my tank should take be a win button, so stop with this stupid talk. Heavies dominate at CQC and they are very scary. But Zitro you should have to use tactics to kill heavies(infantry tanks)! How about real tanks? What about killing anything in this game? The fact is half the heavies don't play their class right and with the range as is it is right now is one reason half of the heavies can even get kills.
Now as for a heavy suit getting its slots rearranged I'm all for(maybe even adding an extra slot) but it needs to come with a hmg range nerf.

it has that range to be a distraction.
six months running heavy, i know, all i get shooting a person at 50m is an assist

Well, the heavy suit is fine, its the no recoil HMG thats the concern...i mean it shoots in a complete straight line....the last time a Minigun had no recoil was Wolfenstein 3D 20 years ago, and no i dont see any special bracket or support keeping the gun perfectly still and straight ...

Though i dont have any issues with heavies, as i chew em up with my AR up close in front, always fun to see heavies thinking they can take on the Assault guy solo :)

i've been playing heavy for less than a week and i know that, sides everyone knows that a heavy is supposed to make everyone stare at you and forgot the assault guys standing next to you, which the range is rather useful for, if slightly too long IMO.

read the heavy suit bio. it's basically an exo- that would account for the no recoil.

Can you explain to me that when i equip an Assault rifle on the heavy suit, scope in with it, i get recoil but i get none with a HMG?

Seems your logic doesn't apply to it being an exo suit...

it's a beta, they don't have all the kinks worked out yet.
HA!

If their guns use a database, witch they do, its just adding a number to the recoil of the weapons, i find it hard to think they did not have 5 mins of time to add some basic recoil in the past betas.

Right now its fires like a water hose without any pressure behind it and i can easely go trough 5 people at the same time with it at up to short to medium range, and that was in full militia gear. (Once you use KB & Mouse you dont turn slow with it, so thats a moot point).

Heavy weapons like this are ussually support platforms to suppress the enemy or AV, but thats not the issue here, if it had recoil like it should have, it would not be pin-point accurate over pro-longed periods of fire. Right now its impossible to miss your target with this thing.

How to kill a scout player: Point and shoot
How to kill an assault player: Point and shoot
How to kill a triage: Point and shoot
How to kill a heavy: "Run away, keep your distance (even though HMGs have the range of assault rifles and you'll be dead 10 times over before you're out of its range), make sure you happen to have grenades on you to take down their armor, make sure you happen to be playing in a group so you have friends to distract them because 1-on-1's are futile, if you can't run away then just somehow run through HMG fire and start spinning in circles around them. 'Dust 514 is hardcore to the max yo use teamwork and strategy and you can take us down as long as you take the time and effort to put us in what would be considered an enormous disadvantage if we were playing as any other class we're not OP lol get good!'"

Do you see the problem here?

The thread should have been over right here. Stop abusing your crutch scrubs.