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Listen i played a heavy since the first build, and the heavy has already been nerfed three times over already.

If you people wanba cry should have done that months ago. Lmao i get killed by assults all tje time and sniper's and heavys. But i run a standard heavy wich is cheap and efficient.
other than that i have no militia weapon, no standard bpo,
my proto has 3high slots and 2low slots, while you cry babies assault proto has 4and4.
Give me a break at proto you can have just as much armour and shields as a heavy so stop crying
And spend you sp wisely.

Thanks

If you guys actually support them being a 1-man-army, what purpose does a 1-man-army role have in a game like Dust 514? How does having to go out of your way to not get in the way of a beefed-up assault player on steroids add depth to the game? They have no special unique purpose or niche in the game. They're just one of the gimmicks CCP uses to make the game seem like it has more variety than it really does.

You guys exaggerate how expensive and slow they are. ISK rewards are more than high enough for everyone to replace their dropsuits without a problem and the speed disadvantage isn't that great, it's almost comparable to the difference between holding a sniper and holding a SMG w/ lightweight in Call of Duty. Tuned down sensitivity has its owned advantages and helps many players keep their aim on target.

Think about it this way: CCP adds a god-mode assault class with significantly higher DPS and health than the regular assault class, but removes some mobility just for the sake of having some sort of disadvantage, however slight it may be. It's rumored to have some unique counter abilities that could give it's own special place on the battlefield but nobody actually uses them because it plays much better as a super beefed up soldier class. Everyone who plays with it uses it as though it were a regular assault dropsuit and runs around just going for kills like any other assault player would. The only difference is that their victims have no chance at killing them in a fair fight because the god-mode suit is significantly superior in almost every aspect to the regular assault suits so their victims have to use very specific special strategies to disable them that may involve having to get multiple teammates to work together in a public lobby full of randoms, or finding that very narrow range where their weapon can't hurt you that badly but you can get a good shot on them without your bullets disappearing into thin air. Wouldn't you say "Hey, this is ridiculous. What's the purpose of having a 'role' like this in the game? Why should we be going through so much trouble to avoid and counter this class when all it is is a copy-and-paste of the regular assault class but with like 3x armor and a 400 round clip 1000+ RPM assault rifle that can be fired from the hip?"

How does this add any depth to the game or make the game more enjoyable for players who choose not to use this suit?

they wont be satisfied till the assault can out gun it in a straight up fight, complelty making it obsolete

3. we think we are invincible: for good reason, we mow down anything in our path, regardless if it's shooting or not. this makes us recless(well, it makes me reckless anyway) use this, draw us into an area where you have friends and nail us from multiple directions. we might get one or two of you, but we will go down.

they wont be satisfied till the assault can out gun it in a straight up fight, complelty making it obsolete

Moreso on the reckless behaviour when us Logistic guys decide to stick behind you like a moving wall and keep your ass up while you obliterate everything ;]

Lol, but joking aside, this is a very true point. Even with a half-decent logi like myself, there ARE ways to counter a Heavy's sheer power/health. Even if they're wielding an Assault Rifle. Ever heard of teamwork? Tactics? Mass drivers?

Haven't been on the forums for a while, but glad [sarcasm] to see that everyone is still bitching and moaning about the Heavy suits.

Anyways, not going to get involved further. Have fun everyone o7

Moreso on the reckless behaviour when us Logistic guys decide to stick behind you like a moving wall and keep your ass up while you obliterate everything ;]


The laser is the most effective weapon against a heavy in my opinion i play as a laser heavy and love seeing a heavy lumering across the field i smile. Lol

Pro tip: To those who rely on Toxin - if the heavy you see says STD for gear, he's probably a Type-II and he's probably going to laugh at your little version of his HMG. That gun really barely hurts shields so are virtually worthless against Type-II heavies. Better off just running. Can't tell you how many people pull out the Toxin thinking it means more to me then a mosquito bite.

It's always been my opinion the SMG should be the assaults HMG with variants to make it so or not. But without any SP into it it's pretty worthless against a heavy who knows how to spec. And I assume every vet heavy is running Type-II by now.

due to the fact that people keep tossing flux grenades at me, this vet will NOT be switching to the type II anytime soon

If you get fluxed your about to get rushed. Just ready a nade of your own and make them regret giving there obvious next move away.

the problem for me isn't a heavy.

it's when 75% of the enemy team is heavies. the only way to fix this is more AOE weapons, which I believe is on the drawingboard. Heavies are fine the way they are. it's just that people are tired of being cheap shotted by the truly OP sniper rifles.

Heavies need to be the threat bomb they are. they need that ability to say "either take the time to focus on me, or die to my 10,000 bullets". I like the dynamic they bring to the table. but overpopulation is becoming an issue.

How to kill a scout player: Point and shoot
How to kill an assault player: Point and shoot
How to kill a triage: Point and shoot
How to kill a heavy: "Run away, keep your distance (even though HMGs have the range of assault rifles and you'll be dead 10 times over before you're out of its range), make sure you happen to have grenades on you to take down their armor, make sure you happen to be playing in a group so you have friends to distract them because 1-on-1's are futile, if you can't run away then just somehow run through HMG fire and start spinning in circles around them. 'Dust 514 is hardcore to the max yo use teamwork and strategy and you can take us down as long as you take the time and effort to put us in what would be considered an enormous disadvantage if we were playing as any other class we're not OP lol get good!'"

Do you see the problem here?

they wont be satisfied till the assault can out gun it in a straight up fight, complelty making it obsolete

the problem for me isn't a heavy.

it's when 75% of the enemy team is heavies. the only way to fix this is more AOE weapons, which I believe is on the drawingboard. Heavies are fine the way they are. it's just that people are tired of being cheap shotted by the truly OP sniper rifles.

Heavies need to be the threat bomb they are. they need that ability to say "either take the time to focus on me, or die to my 10,000 bullets". I like the dynamic they bring to the table. but overpopulation is becoming an issue.

Pro tip: To those who rely on Toxin - if the heavy you see says STD for gear, he's probably a Type-II and he's probably going to laugh at your little version of his HMG. That gun really barely hurts shields so are virtually worthless against Type-II heavies. Better off just running. Can't tell you how many people pull out the Toxin thinking it means more to me then a mosquito bite.

It's always been my opinion the SMG should be the assaults HMG with variants to make it so or not. But without any SP into it it's pretty worthless against a heavy who knows how to spec. And I assume every vet heavy is running Type-II by now.

Flux grenade first, then close in with the SMG

This is exactly the problem. There are only a few.

never been taken down by an SMG