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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:38:00 -
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You forgot to include the long reload times, and how quickly you get owned if you're ever dumb enough to let your HMG overheat. |
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:43:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:gbghg wrote:You forgot to include the long reload times, and how quickly you get owned if you're ever dumb enough to let your HMG overheat. i was hungry, figured someone else would say it, and hey! presto! you did! 
Happy to oblige
EDIT: But seriously have you noticed how in over half the nerf threads neither of those things seem to come up |
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:56:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:How to kill a scout player: Point and shoot
How to kill an assault player: Point and shoot
How to kill a triage: Point and shoot
How to kill a heavy: "Run away, keep your distance (even though HMGs have the range of assault rifles and you'll be dead 10 times over before you're out of its range), make sure you happen to have grenades on you to take down their armor, make sure you happen to be playing in a group so you have friends to distract them because 1-on-1's are futile, 'Dust 514 is hardcore to the max yo use teamwork and strategy and you can take us down as long as you take the time and effort to put us in what would be considered an enormous disadvantage if we were playing as any other class we're not OP lol get good!'"
Do you see the problem here?
The problem being that people forget that a heavy is basiclly a mini tank, i mean you don't expect to take out a tank solo do you?
no you get a couple a guys with a mix of forge guns and swarms and get them to concentrate fire |
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:03:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:How to kill a scout player: Point and shoot
How to kill an assault player: Point and shoot
How to kill a triage: Point and shoot
How to kill a heavy: "Run away, keep your distance (even though HMGs have the range of assault rifles), make sure you have grenades on you to take down their armor, make sure you have friends to distract them because 1-on-1's are futile, 'Dust 514 is hardcore to the max yo use teamwork and strategy and you can take us down as long as you take the time and effort to put us in what would be considered an enormous disadvantage if we were playing as any other class we're not OP lol get good!'"
Do you see the problem here? nope triage doesnt fight, they support assault is for jack of all trades play style scout is long range, objective taking, and shotgun ganking. they all have their roles, headfirst shooting nock down, drag out fights arent thiers. Heavies are supposed to be a anti-vehicle support class. They should serve as a distraction and be there to counter LAVS, HAVs, and dropships. They should be used to protect groups by absorbing bullets for the team. Currently everyone uses them as a 1 man army. They are nothing more then a beefed up assault player on steroids right now. They do not have a unique role and add absolutely no depth to the game.
only because outside of corp matches there aren't that many vehicles to shoot. In most Matches either due to layout or the people playing their aren't a lot. Although i have to say the numbers have been increasing lately. |
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:07:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:
they are 1 man armies, they're also really expensive, and slow, and all the other things i stated. this isn't halo, or CoD, or MAG, this is DUST514. it's unique, have to have tactics for once
you got tactics in battlefield 3 but that basically ended up as "fire everything there" |
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:19:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:
it has that range to be a distraction.
six months running heavy, i know, all i get shooting a person at 50m is an assist
i've been playing heavy for less than a week and i know that, sides everyone knows that a heavy is supposed to make everyone stare at you and forgot the assault guys standing next to you, which the range is rather useful for, if slightly too long IMO. |
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Posted - 2013.01.30 07:57:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:[quote=Rei Shepard] Quote:it's a beta, they don't have all the kinks worked out yet.
HA! If their guns use a database, witch they do, its just adding a number to the recoil of the weapons, i find it hard to think they did not have 5 mins of time to add some basic recoil in the past betas. Right now its fires like a water hose without any pressure behind it and i can easely go trough 5 people at the same time with it at up to short to medium range, and that was in full militia gear. (Once you use KB & Mouse you dont turn slow with it, so thats a moot point). Heavy weapons like this are ussually support platforms to suppress the enemy or AV, but thats not the issue here, if it had recoil like it should have, it would not be pin-point accurate over pro-longed periods of fire. Right now its impossible to miss your target with this thing. It does have recoil. The same as the AR, the HMG has muzzle climb that if left unattended pulls up and over the target. If the gun was in a pintle mount this muzzle lift would be non existent, and although the heavy suit was designed to be a mobile heavy weapons mount, a little lift can be suffered.The gyroscopic stabilisation that's caused by the barrel group spinning more than 33 times a second with a counter rotational weighted disc spinning the same, causes it to be a very stable and accurate gun over LONG bursts. It's about time people get familiar with real life physics and New Eden lore. If ye keep hitting yer heads on a wall, headaches will continue until ye notice the possibility of walking around it. As has been stated many times already, heavies are not gods, but the people running straight at them sure like to make them look that way. No nerf is needed. Don't hang around around in front of HMGs, and unless you're in definite hard cover, don't stop moving.[/quote +1 for an intelligent answer
A rare thing on this forum at times
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Posted - 2013.01.31 21:24:00 -
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Remember people Heavy's are just like teddy bears, they're big, like to be cuddled, need to be cared for to remain in a good state. They love you, why don't you love them? |
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