DUST Search - a heavies tirade against nerfing, and reason why

Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:

General Tiberius1 wrote:

mojo omnipetent:
Heavies are supposed to be a anti-vehicle support class. They should serve as a distraction and be there to counter LAVS, HAVs, and dropships. They should be used to protect groups by absorbing bullets for the team.

Currently everyone uses them as a 1 man army. They are nothing more then a beefed up assault player on steroids right now. They do not have a unique role and add absolutely no depth to the game. [/quote

they are 1 man armies, they're also really expensive, and slow, and all the other things i stated. this isn't halo, or CoD, or MAG, this is DUST514. it's unique, have to have tactics for once

If you guys actually support them being a 1-man-army, what purpose does a 1-man-army role have in a game like Dust 514? How does having to go out of your way to not get in the way of a beefed-up assault player on steroids add depth to the game? They have no special unique purpose or niche in the game. They're just one of the gimmicks CCP uses to make the game seem like it has more variety than it really does.

You guys exaggerate how expensive and slow they are. ISK rewards are more than high enough for everyone to replace their dropsuits without a problem and the speed disadvantage isn't that great, it's almost comparable to the difference between holding a sniper and holding a SMG w/ lightweight in Call of Duty. Tuned down sensitivity has its owned advantages and helps many players keep their aim on target.

Think about it this way: CCP adds a god-mode assault class with significantly higher DPS and health than the regular assault class, but removes some mobility just for the sake of having some sort of disadvantage, however slight it may be. It's rumored to have some unique counter abilities that could give it's own special place on the battlefield but nobody actually uses them because it plays much better as a super beefed up soldier class. Everyone who plays with it uses it as though it were a regular assault dropsuit and runs around just going for kills like any other assault player would. The only difference is that their victims have no chance at killing them in a fair fight because the god-mode suit is significantly superior in almost every aspect to the regular assault suits so their victims have to use very specific special strategies to disable them that may involve having to get multiple teammates to work together in a public lobby full of randoms, or finding that very narrow range where their weapon can't hurt you that badly but you can get a good shot on them without your bullets disappearing into thin air. Wouldn't you say "Hey, this is ridiculous. What's the purpose of having a 'role' like this in the game? Why should we be going through so much trouble to avoid and counter this class when all it is is a copy-and-paste of the regular assault class but with like 3x armor and a 400 round clip 1000+ RPM assault rifle that can be fired from the hip?"

How does this add any depth to the game or make the game more enjoyable for players who choose not to use this suit?


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lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.01.28 07:59:00 - [1] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: mojo omnipetent: Heavies are supposed to be a anti-vehicle support class. They should serve as a distraction and be there to counter LAVS, HAVs, and dropships. They should be used to protect groups by absorbing bullets for the team. Currently everyone uses them as a 1 man army. They are nothing more then a beefed up assault player on steroids right now. They do not have a unique role and add absolutely no depth to the game. [/quote they are 1 man armies, they're also really expensive, and slow, and all the other things i stated. this isn't halo, or CoD, or MAG, this is DUST514. it's unique, have to have tactics for once If you guys actually support them being a 1-man-army, what purpose does a 1-man-army role have in a game like Dust 514? How does having to go out of your way to not get in the way of a beefed-up assault player on steroids add depth to the game? They have no special unique purpose or niche in the game. They're just one of the gimmicks CCP uses to make the game seem like it has more variety than it really does. You guys exaggerate how expensive and slow they are. ISK rewards are more than high enough for everyone to replace their dropsuits without a problem and the speed disadvantage isn't that great, it's almost comparable to the difference between holding a sniper and holding a SMG w/ lightweight in Call of Duty. Tuned down sensitivity has its owned advantages and helps many players keep their aim on target. Think about it this way: CCP adds a god-mode assault class with significantly higher DPS and health than the regular assault class, but removes some mobility just for the sake of having some sort of disadvantage, however slight it may be. It's rumored to have some unique counter abilities that could give it's own special place on the battlefield but nobody actually uses them because it plays much better as a super beefed up soldier class. Everyone who plays with it uses it as though it were a regular assault dropsuit and runs around just going for kills like any other assault player would. The only difference is that their victims have no chance at killing them in a fair fight because the god-mode suit is significantly superior in almost every aspect to the regular assault suits so their victims have to use very specific special strategies to disable them that may involve having to get multiple teammates to work together in a public lobby full of randoms, or finding that very narrow range where their weapon can't hurt you that badly but you can get a good shot on them without your bullets disappearing into thin air. Wouldn't you say "Hey, this is ridiculous. What's the purpose of having a 'role' like this in the game? Why should we be going through so much trouble to avoid and counter this class when all it is is a copy-and-paste of the regular assault class but with like 3x armor and a 400 round clip 1000+ RPM assault rifle that can be fired from the hip?" How does this add any depth to the game or make the game more enjoyable for players who choose not to use this suit? This is an awesome point, and new players can get into a type II with HMG very fast, 10 - 15 rounds isk farming and its theirs. The movement speed is very fast as long as you turn the sensitivity up to %100 you have a point and click beast. I enjoy playing heavy with this type of class,it is easy to wreck havoc going lone wolf, but i am told later down the line, all the other Suites will own the heavy once everyone is in proto.