DUST Search - Hold onto your horses. NDA, Open Beta, and Commercial Release and Aurum Resets.

Need Some Triage wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

Our side of the argument is simple: you were warned there were no more wipes, which obviously ment no more AUR reimbursements. The only people who have a right to complain are the ones who don't use the forums or actively seek dust info.

And commercial launch is when a game goes public - never really states a completed product.

This. Anyone who disagrees are ******* idiots, read the dev posts, they said this will be last reset; Why do you expect to boost yourself with merc pack aur and then get the aur back, and yet not sp reset at some later "release"?

Winscar Shinobi wrote:

Terms say CCP has to give us all out AUR back on commercial release (which would be TODAY if open beta is release) OR they have to give equal value in compensation (so they have to give you 20$ in game content if you bought the merc pack) that is legally binding and there is no way around it.

You clearly didn't read the terms of use that got spit out at you everytime you got onto the game for months. They have the right to change the game at any time for any reason with no notice.


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Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 43	Posted - 2013.01.22 16:50:00 - [1] - Quote Take it they're removing the "get the merc pack and get 4 days early access to retail game release" as well. While I spent my AUR on things I wanted and dont really care for a refund, it is really sad that CCP would rather just remove promises they can't keep and just ignore people that complain. It makes them look pretty dirty, and despite me not having interest in a refund, makes me look at CCP with a bit of disgust, and will effect me and my clans purchases from now on. Also, the open beta, or "commercial release" has been live officially for about 4 hours. Meaning players should have gotten reimbursed as of then following the contract during merc pack purchase. You are trying to change the contract after the point of the contracts effectiveness, meaning that you have yet to change it, meaning the previous contract is still in effect, and you have yet to fulfill it. I actually had a problem similar to this with apple. I had purchased a warranty on my iPhone about 2 years ago. About a year later they changed the warranties to no longer include water damage. Well my phone got wet and I took it in. They said "well we have new terms and we no longer cover water damage" I pulled out my warranty, handed them it, and they replaced my phone. Because what I had agreed to was different then what the contract currently was. No matter how this goes down, it's a low move CCP.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 43	Posted - 2013.01.22 22:34:00 - [2] - Quote Terms say CCP has to give us all out AUR back on commercial release (which would be TODAY if open beta is release) OR they have to give equal value in compensation (so they have to give you 20$ in game content if you bought the merc pack) that is legally binding and there is no way around it.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 43	Posted - 2013.01.23 01:52:00 - [3] - Quote Need Some Triage wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Our side of the argument is simple: you were warned there were no more wipes, which obviously ment no more AUR reimbursements. The only people who have a right to complain are the ones who don't use the forums or actively seek dust info. And commercial launch is when a game goes public - never really states a completed product. This. Anyone who disagrees are ***** idiots, read the dev posts, they said this will be last reset; Why do you expect to boost yourself with merc pack aur and then get the aur back, and yet not sp reset at some later "release"? Winscar Shinobi wrote:** Terms say CCP has to give us all out AUR back on commercial release (which would be TODAY if open beta is release) OR they have to give equal value in compensation (so they have to give you 20$ in game content if you bought the merc pack) that is legally binding and there is no way around it. You clearly didn't read the terms of use that got spit out at you everytime you got onto the game for months. They have the right to change the game at any time for any reason with no notice. I'm sorry but you clearly don't know what you are talking about. They have the right to change the game yes, but that is the games terms of service. The merc pack and aurs terms of service are a COMPLETELY seperate entity then the terms you have when you boot up the game. The terms of the merc pack are clear. Upon every wipe AND the commercial release we are to get reimbursed our items, or be fairly compensated.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 43	Posted - 2013.01.23 02:11:00 - [4] - Quote Ok. But if we are really talking in all fairness, then CCP should also wipe every character up to this point so all the open beta players will have an even start point with us. If you read earlier in the thread you would see that I said I don't want a refund, I spent my stuff and am happy with what I got. This is about CCP pulling a dirty move by lying in a product description on more that one occasion, and the fact that they should be held responsible for their lie.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 43	Posted - 2013.01.23 02:24:00 - [5] - Quote Also don't forget if you purchase the merc pack you were supposed to get 4 day early start on the commercial release. We just gonna forget about that too? And sir you seem overly mad. You seem to forget, if they don't want to give back all the AUR and items they can also give items of equal value in addition as well. I am being logical and using established facts and laws. You are responding with some form of hate, and your posts carry a malice tone through your text.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 43	Posted - 2013.01.23 02:41:00 - [6] - Quote Think he is more mad then me. Actually going through the merc pack, the way it's worded it looks like CCP never intended to wipe for full release and give all the merc stuff back, which I agree is insanely stupid. It would be like giving a free merc pack out. But I find it funny that CCP lied to its players and decide they're just going to try and push it off, and worse is the community is trying to defend them because they don't want to lose their precious items. Actually an apology from CCP would be welcomed above everything else. You know a "sorry we lied about what we were selling you" something along those lines.