WP/D ratio.
I would say more, but it just kinda seems obvious to me. CCP has already acknowledged that WP is more important than kills by changing the scoreboard at the end of the match to show people ranked by their total WP, not their total kills.

Doesn't this thread already exist?

Personally, I agree with your opinion. WP is far more important for me, considering also that I am a Logi person and therefore die a lot. However, I still get to the top of the leaderboard through healing, reviving, etc. However, I agree that if you help your teammates clear out an objective using brute force, it is also a contribution. It might be difficult to determine which is better, but in Skirmish I find teamwork and support more crucial than KDR. Especially if a person with high KDR was sniping behind the redline.

The title says it all... This is good, but what is best in Dust?

A good team, war points, a high K/D ratio, and the wind in your helmet

You act like we have a search button

We do..

So whats more important to you? War Points or K/D Ratio?

Neither its all about ISK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The title says it all. My friend and I have been going back and forth about which is more important. Obviously they both have a role in the game. If you see someone with 50,000 WP but 25 Kills and 3 Deaths, you know they are boosting. Personally I believe WP are more important than your K/D ratio. WP reflect how much of a team player you are. (this is assuming you are not boosting) If you are running around, hacking objectives, reviving/healing people, giving them ammo, and killing when you get the chance, your going to end up with a kitten ton of WP. This shows that you are trying to win the match by helping your team. My friend (who I'm not going to name for the sake of saving him hate mail) believes that your K/D ratio represents the same thing, that being how much you help your team. He is a tank driver (now some people know who he is) and focuses on killing as many people as he can. I told him that doing so is great if your defending an objective, but he refuted my point by stating he is aggressive with his tank and moves in to clear out an objective. Both roles are needed in a match otherwise you wouldn't be able to win. We have, in the friendliest way possible, called each other point-whores(me) and kill-whores(him). So I turn to all of you to hear your opinion. Which is more important in a match, brute force or teamwork? Discuss.

You act like we have a search button

WP/D ratio.

Nothing is more important then the tears of my enemies.

Both are important. You need someone to clear the way so your team can provide support, hack stuff, and blow up vehicles. Neither become important unless your lacking whatever support is required, or lacking firepower.

what they need to do is introduce something i like to call a "meta score" basically it gives you a dividend out of a 100, and based off how well you do in each of the games major stats (K/D WP/D W/L) you rank between 1 and 100. If someone has a meta score of 100, then that means there an all around god at the game. The standard that the "meta score" would be using would have to be set by CCP at some number, but in my opinion if someone has a 3 to 1 KD, 200 to 1 WP/D, and a 2 to 1 W/L then they should have a reasonably high meta score, if not a 100. Of course those stats are up to debate but its whatever. Also, in case you guys didn't know this idea is a complete knock off of the system they have in place in Battlefield bad company 2.

In addition to this system they could even add an option where it devides into 3 smaller meta scores that show specifically how good someone is out a 100 in each specific stat.

IE: someone might have a 5.0 K/D giving them a 100 in that, but they also might only have 100 WP/D and a 1.0 W/L thus giving them the respective meta scores of 100, 50, and 50 (based off my standard) which would therefore give them a total meta score of around 67 - 70

Why would K/D ratio be important to anybody? (Well, aside from 15 year old Call of Duty and Battlefield players that think it actually means something.)

Case in point:
The better player is the one with 10,000 kills and 5,000 deaths. Not the one with 100 kills and 1 death. Regardless of WP earned by either. Sorry children.

I don't really pay much attention to either.

Both are far too easy to manipulate, though WP specifically. If I see someone with a massive WP pool, my first and only thought is "booster"

Not true if they are both playing the same role. In this case infantry. (Kd with sniper or tanks don't count as actual kd because no skill )

Player 2 (100 kills) just started so he doesn't have as many kills as player 1 (10,000 kills) but is clearly the better player if they play the same role.

Even then it's not an accurate stat to reflect value/impact. Dropships being mobile, all Logis, hacking, overwatch and uplinks are all totally overlooked by KDR and often swing entire battles.

Player 3 has has 5,000 kills and 15,000 deaths, but is a Logi and has 3 times as many WP as either player 1 or 2. Player 3 is clearly contributing more to the team than either players 1 or 2.

(Note: any stat can be bent or made inaccurate, but some suffer from it more than others. KDR is one of those that is very easy to twist.)

From what Ive seen caring about stats makes players much worse and hurts the game overall. Its the reason people let objects get hacked so they can get more points turning it back. Its the reason half your team is behind the redline sniping to protect thier k/d. Its the reason your team drops out the moment the other team gets an early lead. Before stat tracking everyone played to win and have fun, and the term "rage quit" didn't exist.


A good player is someone who tries to learn and improve, knows how to communicate, and doesnt take the game so seriously the their yelling obscenities 90% of the time.

I don't really pay much attention to either.

Both are far too easy to manipulate, though WP specifically. If I see someone with a massive WP pool, my first and only thought is "booster"

The title says it all. My friend and I have been going back and forth about which is more important. Obviously they both have a role in the game.

If you see someone with 50,000 WP but 25 Kills and 3 Deaths, you know they are boosting. Personally I believe WP are more important than your K/D ratio. WP reflect how much of a team player you are. (this is assuming you are not boosting) If you are running around, hacking objectives, reviving/healing people, giving them ammo, and killing when you get the chance, your going to end up with a kitten ton of WP.

This shows that you are trying to win the match by helping your team. My friend (who I'm not going to name for the sake of saving him hate mail) believes that your K/D ratio represents the same thing, that being how much you help your team. He is a tank driver (now some people know who he is) and focuses on killing as many people as he can.

I told him that doing so is great if your defending an objective, but he refuted my point by stating he is aggressive with his tank and moves in to clear out an objective. Both roles are needed in a match otherwise you wouldn't be able to win. We have, in the friendliest way possible, called each other point-whores(me) and kill-whores(him). So I turn to all of you to hear your opinion. Which is more important in a match, brute force or teamwork? Discuss.

Not true if they are both playing the same role. In this case infantry. (Kd with sniper or tanks don't count as actual kd because no skill )

Player 2 (100 kills) just started so he doesn't have as many kills as player 1 (10,000 kills) but is clearly the better player if they play the same role.