Perhaps it is so easy because we are ALL at entry level now?

Just sayin'

Head glitch with swarm lanchers with av grenades that can be thrown like a baseball and it does more damage than all other av weapons..... i call unbalance not beacause i die by it but because it takes absolutely takes no skill and is way too easy to use.
the only av that takes any skill is a forge gun and those players i respect

i mean how hard can it be to just keep line of sights at least for the swarms?

Do i even have to mention the laser, heavies, massdrivers, grenades, sniping, LAV crushing, and shotguns?

CCP why are you lowering your standards and forcing it on us? you were into average women just like the rest of us now you are into hairy BBW which is find for you but NOT FOR ME. ADD SKILL TO THIS GAME-first rule of a FPS. That is where you will get most of your player base

i am not talking about gear im talking about how easy it is to use each item and how childish it is

I too, am not talking about gear. I am talking about skills. We ALL have been playing so long that we are the toughest mercs in New Eden (even if you suck 55.7% of the time like me!). We know what to do and how to use skills and gear to be the hardest of the hard.
When the new influx arrives on the 22nd, I would expect that there will be a significant shift in the games parameters, in regards to play styles encountered on the battlefield.

Head glitch with swarm lanchers with av grenades that can be thrown like a baseball and it does more damage than all other av weapons..... i call unbalance not beacause i die by it but because it takes absolutely takes no skill and is way too easy to use.
the only av that takes any skill is a forge gun and those players i respect

i mean how hard can it be to just keep line of sights at least for the swarms?

Do i even have to mention the laser, heavies, massdrivers, grenades, sniping, LAV crushing, and shotguns?

CCP why are you lowering your standards and forcing it on us? you were into average women just like the rest of us now you are into hairy BBW which is find for you but NOT FOR ME. ADD SKILL TO THIS GAME-first rule of a FPS. That is where you will get most of your player base

I kind of agree. A lot of weapons are pretty simplistic. Sniping is egregiously overpowered, LAV crushing, grenade spamming... DUST has many ways to get kills against basically anyone while requiring the most basic of skill and a tiny amount of effort. I don't have any great suggestions, aside from making sniping involve bullets with travel time, drop, and permanent scope sway even when crouched, but otherwise I imagine this is stuff that'll improve over time. Though certainly assault rifles are an example, with how they have essentially zero kick unless you're holding down the trigger for 30 rounds.

You must be a bad tank driver if your letting people get close enough even with the huge AV nade range, and have you tried moving out of the way?

And really you're complaining about swarms? They barely do any damage to shields and it's so easy to kill someone that's out in the open trying to lock on to you.

Why do you want it to be hard to transition in to a new weapon? I feel the weapons are fine like they are easy to use hard to master.

TL;DR: You're a tank scrub who was hand fed in the earlier builds and are crying for your milk.

Please ignore the unbolded and un-underlined I was just getting out my rage from the recent tank spamming encounters.

It sounds like your idea of what consitutes skill is limited to early-2000s era FPS games, where it was all about putting the dot on the enemy over anything else. There are elements of that to Dust, like the Forge Guns you mentioned, but there's more to having 'skill' in a game than that. For example, the swarms home in in a very lethargic, predictable way, which makes firing them in a way that makes it difficult for the opponent to avoid them a skill. You can just lock on and let rip, like you can just spray and pray, but it takes more than that to read your environment and ensure that there'll be nowhere for the target to hide once you've let go of the trigger. Same with everything else. Broaden your horizons a bit.

So this different feel you want would be what? If you can use a rife in real life you can sufficiently use any two hand weapon with a similar feel, until you get to something firing things larger than bullets such as grenades or rockets. Now you can improve with individual weapons due to different rates of fire, kick, mag size, but if you are good with one you will at least know how to handle the others. Personally I like the balance right now with the guns I just think we need more items variations to be put into the other slots but that will come.

The onoy skill the forge gun takes is in killing infantry with it ... which swarms can't do.

If you think swarms are so easy then specialise in them n see how many times you can get over half way up the leaderboard at the end of a match.

for killing tanks swarms are better not for killing infantry. Why do my posts attract the stupid kids?

Yeah man... It's so dumb that every weapon in the entire game is so overpowered. Why can't they balance all of the equally overpowered guns so that they all are about as strong. It's unfair that I can use {weapon} to damage {enemy}. Why can't Dust be like {game} where {weapon} does nothing to {enemy}.