Perhaps it is so easy because we are ALL at entry level now?

Just sayin'

I too, am not talking about gear. I am talking about skills. We ALL have been playing so long that we are the toughest mercs in New Eden (even if you suck 55.7% of the time like me!). We know what to do and how to use skills and gear to be the hardest of the hard.
When the new influx arrives on the 22nd, I would expect that there will be a significant shift in the games parameters, in regards to play styles encountered on the battlefield.

You must be a bad tank driver if your letting people get close enough even with the huge AV nade range, and have you tried moving out of the way?

And really you're complaining about swarms? They barely do any damage to shields and it's so easy to kill someone that's out in the open trying to lock on to you.

Why do you want it to be hard to transition in to a new weapon? I feel the weapons are fine like they are easy to use hard to master.

TL;DR: You're a tank scrub who was hand fed in the earlier builds and are crying for your milk.

Please ignore the unbolded and un-underlined I was just getting out my rage from the recent tank spamming encounters.

It sounds like your idea of what consitutes skill is limited to early-2000s era FPS games, where it was all about putting the dot on the enemy over anything else. There are elements of that to Dust, like the Forge Guns you mentioned, but there's more to having 'skill' in a game than that. For example, the swarms home in in a very lethargic, predictable way, which makes firing them in a way that makes it difficult for the opponent to avoid them a skill. You can just lock on and let rip, like you can just spray and pray, but it takes more than that to read your environment and ensure that there'll be nowhere for the target to hide once you've let go of the trigger. Same with everything else. Broaden your horizons a bit.

So this different feel you want would be what? If you can use a rife in real life you can sufficiently use any two hand weapon with a similar feel, until you get to something firing things larger than bullets such as grenades or rockets. Now you can improve with individual weapons due to different rates of fire, kick, mag size, but if you are good with one you will at least know how to handle the others. Personally I like the balance right now with the guns I just think we need more items variations to be put into the other slots but that will come.

The onoy skill the forge gun takes is in killing infantry with it ... which swarms can't do.

If you think swarms are so easy then specialise in them n see how many times you can get over half way up the leaderboard at the end of a match.

Yeah man... It's so dumb that every weapon in the entire game is so overpowered. Why can't they balance all of the equally overpowered guns so that they all are about as strong. It's unfair that I can use {weapon} to damage {enemy}. Why can't Dust be like {game} where {weapon} does nothing to {enemy}.

Because they're always stupid whining QQ posts about my tank hurts, why won't you take all the AV out of the game.

You seem to be missing the point of the post. I shall enlighten you. The point is that, yes, the weapons do damage. Some are better in some circumstances, some are better in others. Some weapons beat some things, some beat others. I'm a gamer that comes from a very specific kind of shooter. I played a lot of Metal Gear Online (may those servers rest in piece) where every single gun was an instant kill/tranq when you got a headshot while inside the gun's effective range. Dust seems to be a suitable replacement for that environment. The weapons are powerful, but will fizzle out when in the wrong hands or used improperly. If you have enough situational awareness and skill you can get around anyone using any gun. Teamwork makes this possible. Run the distraction game with a heavy and a Logi while your Shotgun Scout creeps up behind them. Move to another objective to force them to move into another playing field, etc. If you use your head you can get around any enemy with any weapon. Teamwork is what makes or breaks this game.

everyone should be given only one of three options of weapons, rock, paper, or scissors. one weapon is beaten by another while destroying another one. all maps are empty square rooms with padded walls and no objectives.

this should keep the imperfects happy.

Lets just nerf everything with no skills... The blueberries versus the redberries at a pie eating contest... who ever wins gets the planet's resources.

The only nerf this thread encourages me to support, is a nerf on Mr Zitro's ability to call people idiots. Maybe then we'll see some contribution to legitimate debate.

This thread says oherwise.

you say that swarms and AV nades are imbalanced because they are too easy to use. Not exactly imbalanced imo, but I agree they are too easy to use. Of course CCP shouldn't make it where it takes too much skill(referring to player skill not sp)to use.
They would have to find the right amount of difficulty of use for the AV weapons.

AV grenades can be thrown long distances because they are... Grenades. Though they might need to bring the dmg down a bit for standard. (You were probably in a armor tank. Armor needs love, everyone knows)

Swarms I'm not too sure about considering i don't use them. From my understanding, the Curving around cover is bs.
Im not sure about lock on mechanic though.