To MCBob: I'm not sure if it was the E3 build, but it was near impossible to destroy them. Where you could call in one and solo a whole team. Where you didn't need to aim the rail gun.

I got into them, and it was way too easy. They were broken.

Cause that was a maxed out tank

It doesnt really bother me when i lose tank, it bothers me when i lose a tank to one kid and av grenades or militia swarms thats somehow does 4000 while i have a hardener on but how can I level stuff up when I don't have sp? Might want to think that through... Just saying

This is quickly becoming a "classic" thread, so I will try to put this down before it is buried under thousands of argument comments between the AV people and the HAV pilots.

You can't be asking for balance before anyone has gotten to standard tanks yet, the AV grenade is a standard piece of equipment, and the tanks in use currently are militia, so it is hardly a comparison. A standard locus grenade can OHK militia heavies, so you should be so lucky that three standard AV grenades will only severely damage your militia tank.

It just might be due to the fact that harndeners and resistances for armor seem to be just straight broke right now. It seems everything that does bonus damage to armor works but anything that helps armor resilience doesnt. It would really help to know if the core function of the items we use are actually working before we make tweaks.

Why in the hell are you parking somewhere, where your infantry support is nowhere near you?

You deserve someone sneaking up behind you like a scout who throws down 3 proxy detos and then throwing an av nade to lite them off.

It doesnt really bother me when i lose tank, it bothers me when i lose a tank to one kid and av grenades or militia swarms thats somehow does 4000 while i have a hardener on but how can I level stuff up when I don't have sp? Might want to think that through... Just saying

Standard av grenades do 1500 damage per nade. Swarms do 1200 per volley and forges do about the same... Yep a little stick doing that much damage is ridiculous IMO

I was not attacking you and never stated that you wanted tanks to be a win button, was just stating that you have been here long enough to know that. Yet your comment was lacking the facts and I posted them.

The problem right now is the lack of comms between tankers and their teams and, I mean the whole team not just your squad. If teams could come together in chat a least a little(yes I know some do not have UVTs but, I feel that they should get one. Just my opinion on a different topic) the out comes would be very different for these extremely pricey assets.

Yes that is the problem with ambush but this is the situation you put yourself in when bringing a tank into one. On a spawn someone starts off with a serious ambush on you tank. I think the issue there is with spawning not with the balance.

You personally take everything that responds to you as a attack, true a lot of people do given the way you responded to my post I can see why. I personally have no issue but, don't appreciate the way you came back and attacked me when there was not any offense on my side.

I don't need any post from others saying that this is the way they are thanks.

Armor tanks have the movement speed of a heavy with all armor plates and half a leg. So unless you try the vehicle an know how it handles, don't talk about things you don't understand

Armor tanks have the movement speed of a heavy with all armor plates and half a leg. So unless you try the vehicle an know how it handles, don't talk about things you don't understand

You have a good point; however to be fair, you should still have infantry guarding your flanks and some good gunners (IMO, I think it's best to have a small blaster on the front with a small railgun on top)

This just gave me an idea- how about an active module that drastically decreases the damage of all turrets, but increases movement speed/acceleration and shield/armor resistance by a ton? More or less a mechanism for an emergency retreat.

ALM1GHTY says tanks are OP and says ccp doesn't listen. Here you're saying they are UP and ccp doesn't listen. I have thought that tanks are weak for the cost. And vehicles on the whole are under utilized ATM.

But when two leet players disagree on the same subject and both want ccp to listen to them, who should ccp listen to?

I think ccp is doing a good job of balancing the game and sifting through all the QQ.

Have you tried throwing a fuel injector in the high slot perhaps, we were rolling Soma's before the end of last reset and other than the obvious need for a better than militia armor repper, a fuel injector was the only other active mod that substantially increased our effectiveness. Our rule of thumb became never stop moving if you can possibly help it.

Almighty thinks everything is op so don't take him seriously. I have rarely called for a nerf but av either need a nerf or tanks need a buff

Don't post please! I won't point out how stupid this statement is or how stupid I think you are so just don't post again, please

Almighty thinks everything is op so don't take him seriously. I have rarely called for a nerf but av either need a nerf or tanks need a buff

How about me telling you as an AV that the most difficult tanks to kill are the ones that surround themselves with infantry? and are constantly on the move enough that I don't have to pop shoot die respawn repeat before you have a chance to repair.

By moving around you add minutes to a soloist av trying to kill you.

I always play in a squad so if you have seen me you would know that. And as for taking it as an attack, lol you basically said teamwork is the key to keeping a tank alive... Nope the ability to micro manage your tanks mods is what keeps it alive. So go try a tank out with some teamwork and tell me how it goes

Running from one av stops you yes, but when half the team is av that hurts you more. Try playing in a tank then tell me about

IF TANKS GET A BUFF MY ASSAULT SUIT NEEDS A BUFF IN EITHER STRAFE SPEED OR HEALTH.

I hope you where not the idiot I remote demo'ed yesterday....

The spawns are so dumb it puts forges next to me and kids with av grenades. You want me to have a squad just walking around my tank??? Are your serious?

I like the way you beg boy.