Am I the only one who thinks this?

Aw ok then I just thought it was weird when I died from a laser rifle and it barely touched my toe lol

What are you talking about laser rifles are not OP

Heavy suit with 800 points of shield and health together
Dies in 2 seconds what seems to be the problem

I saw this guy on YouTube get 30 kills with a laser rifle camping in the same spot. Lol Kool but they op.

lasers are for parameter sissies that run for the ropes when they have to face somebody clearly better than them.

They are definately not OP.

Just because they drop my almost 700 HP suit in 1.5 seconds from an unreachable range on these mostly very open maps doesn't make it OP. I mean, the amount of skill needed to use them is far less than the sniper rifles and they are the only weapon that is effective against personel, vehicles and installations, this still doesn't make them OP. That I could pick one up without any skills and go 18-1 doesn't mean anything either.

They do however have 1 drawback:

1. They're only effective at some range.

This thread is going to address the LR complaints. So please, if you have a rebuttel (and im not a bias *******, i believe maybe some can shed light on the otherside), make sure it is a rebuttel and NOT a broken record of arguments ive already debunked. If you want to argue with my logic, that is one thing, if you are going to repeat in some variation the quotes i am arguing, with out addressing my counter argument, then you are an insignificant critical thinker, and tbh, probably shouldn't have a right to vote in your country.

Logic people, logic, thats the currency of this topic.

OH MY GOD, ITS A LASER RIFLE!

"It only takes 5 seconds on anybody and it kills you!"

There are very few weapons that would not kill you in optimal if placed on you accurately for a full 5 seconds, LRs also build up heat damage.

"Well, I've been killed in two seconds!"

First, if your a scout, shut your mouth and get out of my topic. Otherwise, you were in optimal range, probably shield heavy (LRs deal shield bonus dmg), and the LR was most likely already heating up, the longer it runs (while draining ammo) the more dmg it deals. You also could of been in a weak suit, standard/militia are easy to make quick work of.

"Well i'm a heavy! Explain that you condescending stain to my eyes"

You have some disadvantages, such as slowness, its easy to keep a LR's accuracy on something that cant zigzag/move out of the way, meaning it will take the full brunt. This being said, ive never seen a heavy go down in 2 seconds from an LR, not saying it doesnt happen, weaker suits maybe its possible with a Viziam, but ive never seen it. Since naturally heavies are armour heavy they have the most resistance, to some degree it does make up for thier slowness.

Its no secret that higher-end heavy gear needs a buff, as well, so remember dont always look at the weapon killing you and think it's the weapon. I'd still say as far as LRs go vs Heavies, heavies do the job of tanking the longest in regards to LR, i wouldnt say its entirely broken. If you're in optimal range, that is your issue and you need to get out of it, sometimes you cant, be a little more aware next time.

*Next!*

"Its OP! The thing is unstoppable, simply put."

Its called CQC, just because your not equipped to deal with every single scenario does not make a weapon OP. You shouldnt be able to have a fair chance against an LR at range (excluding snipers obviously who beat everyone in range), the point is your in optimal.

KEEP IN MIND LRs DO NOT PERFORM AT ALL AT CLOSE RANGE. I would argue LRs have the hardest counter in the game, because you are simply ****** (especially as a logi which has no sidearm, as i am) if someone comes in close.

DO YOU WANT EVERY WEAPON TO HAVE THE SAME STATS, LET THERE BE 0 VARIATION OR CLOSE TO IT?
(If you answered yes to this rhetorical question, you're one of the reasons this game might die. Feel happy, killer of my dreams, slaughterer of competitive play. If this is the overwhelming feeling, i guess im just a runner in a speed walker's world)

And if you die from an LR 1v1 at close range its not the weapon, its because you are honestly not a good player (or are having a bad day) dont be butthurt, im stating a fact not an insult. We were all there once, but you're certainly not getting better by placing blame on other things.

*Next!*

"Well good luck getting close when you get pegged down all the time from a distance, you have no hope against it."

If you walked into a position where you are pinned down/in the open/in no way able to fall back to pull off a flank, then your playing the FPS wrong. Situational awareness is #1 in larger map FPS' and is essential in becoming a good player. Being in its optimal range will obviously get you killed quicker, keep this in mind when you see someone with an LR

If you are not soloing and have corp mates/friends, organize a flank, your pinned down so his attention is on you, probably thirsty for a kill, get your buddies to find away around, or atleast alleviate pressure so you have a chance to fall back.


Any LR player in corp of competent people will have players around him supporting him, so if that squad beats you, dont blame it on the LR, they have greater situational awareness and chemistry, case closed. Not the LR's fault. LR has a hard counter, you KNOW what you need to do, its about completing that goal and its far from impossible, especially if you're with buddies.

Game is not meant to be for a bunch of pubstars and solo artists, its ultimately a team game and has been presented as such by CCP, so when people need to really think through what they are arguing and NOT BE EXPECTING TO HAVE EQUAL FOOTING 1v1 IN EVERY SCENARIO, because that is not the point of the game.

Things can become OP, when there is never a hard counter to a weapon in combination with brute strength, that = OP (I.e. missile turrets of a couple builds ago), but do not start feeding CCP OP complaints because you are not equipped or are not as skilled as other players.

This is addressed equally to some top notch players who think, for whatever reason, in any given situation they should be able to see the same raw strength/dmg they see usually when kiling people. Use you're head you egomaniacs, there are counters for things, if you are in their optimal and not doing the correct moves to counter, you won't live.

Laser rifles have a major disadvantage. They are pathetic when the target is up close as the true damage potential of the rifle diminishes if the target is not at optimal range. If I am ever pegged by a laser rifle in my scout suit, my first is to close the distance between me and the rifle's point of origin as fast as possible and by any means possible.

You are consistent I must admit. Is there anything you actually like as is or isn't over powered?

I agree, lasers are tough. Getting killed by a single head shot from a good sniper is worse. Forged gunned in the middle of trashing most of their squad with my HMG is just miserable. I had only gotten five in a row and the Forge Gunner ruined my day. Must be OP.

Unless it is when I am using my forge gun. Then everyone else legs are OP.

In case you haven't used one a laser is actually not a perfect weapon. The gun has to be held on for awhile before the damage potential builds up to high levels. If the beam slips on and off the target the gun heats up so one must stop until it cools enough to use again. It will definitely broadcast your exact location to their laser gunners and their snipers. Not to mention the DS, HAV and Forge Gunners. It has good distance and you can see pretty well with it when scoped. But keeping it on the target is tough. Now if you get lucky you can finish off someone that has lost most of their armor and got too eager to let their Logi rep their armor or their shields recharge. And if they are focused on something else they only notice when they drop to the ground. That is true of any other weapon as well though.

Frankly I see it more as a terror weapon. I can use it to disperse a crowd just by playing the beam through them. Inspirational to witness.

Thranx your info on the laser rifle is off. The laser becomes more powerful as your fire it whether you are hitting a target or not. As a result you will see most "skilled" laser rifle users fire off to the side of their target and heat up there laser for a few moments then swing it across the enemy,.......this is almost an insta kill if you do this. I was on the other side watching Mr Zitro using his Viziam. He was melting fools with this weapon (never seemed to matter if they armor tanked or not they died in the same amount of time). Watching zitro was interesting but basically all he did was start shooting and then tried to target the enemy...as he continued shooting if he even knicked the guy their HP was demolished. Missing people with the laser is actually better for the laser user because when he does eventually run the laser over them they take serious dmg. If laser was changed such that it did additional dmg only when continuously hitting the target then lasers would likely not be overpowered.....or at least as bad as they are now.

Oh how strange i heard rumours that your corp turned into a HMG fat suit scrubs and laser rifle users.

Oh how strange i heard rumours that your corp turned into a HMG fat suit scrubs and laser rifle users.

Am I the only one who thinks this?