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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.06 01:47:00 -
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hurr durr i can get those kills with a AR aswell. So whats the point? Good players doing a pub stomp nothing new about that. And hey if your team lets a bunch of laser rifle users in a very good overview position its their fault. Why do you think you are aible to see the beam all accross the map? It paints them for every 1 to get there and kill them up close. When i see a enemy laser then i try to flank them or pick up a laser by myself. Learn how to use teamwork ffs. |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:00:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:hurr durr i can get those kills with a AR aswell. So whats the point? Good players doing a pub stomp nothing new about that. And hey if your team lets a bunch of laser rifle users in a very good overview position its their fault. Why do you think you are aible to see the beam all accross the map? It paints them for every 1 to get there and kill them up close. When i see a enemy laser then i try to flank them or pick up a laser by myself. Learn how to use teamwork ffs.
Lol teamwork is the answer to op lasers, how come you couldn't use "teamwork" to kill TARs? It's always don't nerf the op stuff I use but nerf the op stuff they use. Laser are over powered in how much damage they put out (sounds like how you described the TAR) they are amazing at range( which they should but there is no long range counter besides another laser) and they have almost perfect aim( no argument there). Sounds like the TAR to me but it has an even BIGGER clip (more than x3 the amount) and the only drawback people come up with it is bad at CQC. |
Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:03:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote: Learn how to use teamwork ffs.
OFF TOPIC: Kinda like the teamwork we showed in the corp tourney Mr. 2nd place? I think we have the basics of teamwork down, if you don't think we do, then what does that say about Scrub Incorporated?
ON TOPIC: Anyway... The Dark Scrub just doesnt want his bread and butter nerfed. There is no other weapon out there like the Viziam. You can get a quad/quint. kill in one swipe.... Couldnt do that with a TAR or an Officer AR, so they are definitely the OP thing on the field atm. |
PIMP MAC DADDY
A.I.
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Posted - 2013.01.06 02:56:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:DON RODIE II wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this? Yes. Lasers are not OP. Actually, yes they are. I understand the role this gun plays but its to powerful. I think the laser rifle should be less damage for more range. I belive it should be a heavy weapon. Ex. 800 Ammo in a clip. Going at 10.0 damage at a very long range. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.06 03:15:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:The dark cloud wrote: Learn how to use teamwork ffs. OFF TOPIC: Kinda like the teamwork we showed in the corp tourney Mr. 2nd place? I think we have the basics of teamwork down, if you don't think we do, then what does that say about Scrub Incorporated? Yet you still can't take down a laser rifle. I'm confused, because they never give me much trouble. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.06 03:17:00 -
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Sniper or fast scout seem like the way to go. I dont have issuse with lazors anymore they just need a quick flank or an LAV rush.
Still i think they might be a little op but meh. |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
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Posted - 2013.01.06 03:17:00 -
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Small railgun are OP |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.01.06 03:47:00 -
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Ive never had much of a problem with lazers ... they hurt but I've never been instakilled by one ... maybe you people should use some tank instead of damage fitting everything ... and it's not often I can't get close enough with my burst ar to most LR or sniper to deal them some damage ... I'd be able to kill them if I could get mouse sensitivity right and less input lag (not sure if that's wireless KBM related).
But anyway LR, MD, flux grenades ... tell you what, nerf the lot ... then you can have all the op AR threads back ! |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:28:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote: Lol teamwork is the answer to op lasers, how come you couldn't use "teamwork" to kill TARs? It's always don't nerf the op stuff I use but nerf the op stuff they use. Laser are over powered in how much damage they put out (sounds like how you described the TAR) they are amazing at range( which they should but there is no long range counter besides another laser) and they have almost perfect aim( no argument there). Sounds like the TAR to me but it has an even BIGGER clip (more than x3 the amount) and the only drawback people come up with it is bad at CQC.
Very simple you scrub. The tac AR has beeing used by your corp with rapid fire harware and was the superior weapon in all situations then. Now be quiet and be happy that you wasted 99$ on a cronus X. In my opinion you have no right to talk at all cause i consider these methods as cheating. And your K/D is based on times where you could abuse that. In realitiy you are a 0.5K/D n00b |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.06 04:42:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Mr Zitro wrote: Lol teamwork is the answer to op lasers, how come you couldn't use "teamwork" to kill TARs? It's always don't nerf the op stuff I use but nerf the op stuff they use. Laser are over powered in how much damage they put out (sounds like how you described the TAR) they are amazing at range( which they should but there is no long range counter besides another laser) and they have almost perfect aim( no argument there). Sounds like the TAR to me but it has an even BIGGER clip (more than x3 the amount) and the only drawback people come up with it is bad at CQC.
Very simple you scrub. The tac AR has beeing used by your corp with rapid fire harware and was the superior weapon in all situations then. Now be quiet and be happy that you wasted 99$ on a cronus X. In my opinion you have no right to talk at all cause i consider these methods as cheating. And your K/D is based on times where you could abuse that. In realitiy you are a 0.5K/D n00b Lol all I read is I'm an angry little scrub! XD just because you think you are good on the EU server doesn't mean you're any good at this game. Proven in the tourny or do you want another whooping? As for the whole modded controller thing, just because YOU SUCK doesn't mean I suck so quit crying about ghost and man up! I do give scrub lesson just ask |
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Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.01.06 05:06:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Cyn Bruin wrote:The dark cloud wrote: Learn how to use teamwork ffs. OFF TOPIC: Kinda like the teamwork we showed in the corp tourney Mr. 2nd place? I think we have the basics of teamwork down, if you don't think we do, then what does that say about Scrub Incorporated? Yet you still can't take down a laser rifle. I'm confused, because they never give me much trouble.
How come everytime I see you in a game you go negative or leave the match? I guess if you left the match they never would give you much trouble... Good Solution! |
Caeli SineDeo
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:53:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:No lasers op No just the TAC AR with your cronus X rapid fire mod. Love when a noob uses excuses of rapid fire controller because they are a epic fail with single shot rifles so everone else must be running a modded controller. But when a idiot prof laser rifle comes out of coarse it is not oped. Cause noobs can do well with it. If you guys seriously can't manage to take down a laser rifle, I'm questioning how your corp won the tournament.
Just to stop spaming the blaster thread i am moving this back here.
Really wow bob this is a joke of a answer. I am seeing this as everyones answer back to protect lasers. This has nothing to do with killing lazer users or not. It is the fact that anyone with a laser can control all battles they are in. And when you heat them up you can hit almost 100 damage points a shot. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.06 15:18:00 -
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oh yeah but 70HP per hit with a tac AR was allright with damage mods and skillbooks combined is fair when used with modded hardware. And to top it the rate of fire on that thing was 789 rounds per minute. And that is higher then a normal AR. In fact the TAC AR has a bigger range then a laser rifle. |
Caeli SineDeo
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:22:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:oh yeah but 70HP per hit with a tac AR was allright with damage mods and skillbooks combined is fair when used with modded hardware. And to top it the rate of fire on that thing was 789 rounds per minute. And that is higher then a normal AR. In fact the TAC AR has a bigger range then a laser rifle. Are we talking about TARs in this thread.
No we are not.
This is about lasers quit bringing in stupid answers. But if we want to compare the laser has 100 rounds it fires as fast if not faster then a smg while at minimum reaching 100 damage per round. Could hit higher at the end of its heat up.
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:24:00 -
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Heres an idea.
Don't "Leroy" charge a laser rifle user across an open field. Don't run for cover thats really far away. Don't try a gun duel at 30+ meters. You will die.
Laser rifles are designed for area denial of large open spaces. Assault rifles win up close. So do melee scouts (thanks nitro brawler) and shotguns, and sometimes mass drivers, and SMGs and tier 2 or above scrambler pistols.
In fact I would say the use of laser rifles is fairly limited as usually you are sniper bait.
So basically, don't run across wide open spaces, use cover, but you knew that already, because you still die to assault rifles under the same circumstances. |
Atomic Shiver
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:11:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Laser rifles have a major disadvantage. They are pathetic when the target is up close as the true damage potential of the rifle diminishes if the target is not at optimal range. If I am ever pegged by a laser rifle in my scout suit, my first is to close the distance between me and the rifle's point of origin as fast as possible and by any means possible. yup your exactly correct up close there garbo distance well you needa find some cover |
Thranx1231
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:24:00 -
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One thing that I use the not over powered at all laser is a ... laser pointer.
It is amazing how even a bunch of non-mic using Mercs can find who I just pointed out. Works great and not getting the kill doesn't bother me. Just knock down their clone and move the battle forward.
Turrets from HAVs or Installations can provide the same function, "Look there!".
Even though I hate getting smoked by them I disagree with the OP. If you are getting your butt kicked then anything can seem over powered. In particular if they have the high ground. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:31:00 -
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Nerf the lasers plz, now that the TAR is dealt with it's the only thing standing in my way to make my weapon of choice into the ultimate mid to long range badass |
Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:33:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:oh yeah but 70HP per hit with a tac AR was allright with damage mods and skillbooks combined is fair when used with modded hardware. And to top it the rate of fire on that thing was 789 rounds per minute. And that is higher then a normal AR. In fact the TAC AR has a bigger range then a laser rifle.
You're proving the point dark scrublet.... Way to give credence to the argument.
TARs were nerfed, why not LRs? |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:37:00 -
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cause lasers actually have a drawback and nobody even remotely thought on using them until now. |
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KryptixX
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:39:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:cause lasers actually have a drawback and nobody even remotely thought on using them until I started using them. Fixed. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:51:00 -
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I still don't understand how you guys ***** about something that's actually completely fine and easy to counter. |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.06 19:42:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I still don't understand how you guys ***** about something that's actually completely fine and easy to counter. ARs and every other gun use to be fine. Since everything I use is op I decided to use MD and lasers so where is the nerf on me CCP? |
Vermaak Kuvakei
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.06 20:44:00 -
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I swear, if I knew the op IRL I'd go to jail for murder |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.06 21:15:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I still don't understand how you guys ***** about something that's actually completely fine and easy to counter. ARs and every other gun use to be fine. Since when was 0 recoil on a relatively cheap gun that has no weakness fine? Laser rifles have a weakness, unlike how ARs used to be. |
Cyn Bruin
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Posted - 2013.01.06 21:19:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I still don't understand how you guys ***** about something that's actually completely fine and easy to counter. ARs and every other gun use to be fine. Since when was 0 recoil on a relatively cheap gun that has no weakness fine? Laser rifles have a weakness, unlike how ARs used to be.
Do you use an AR? The recoil is basically nothing, it's a non-factor. Whenever they implement the new scopes ARs will be back to where they were. TAC has a big recoil, meh idc never used a TAC.
Even with a Balac on old system I couldnt take out 4 opponents in under 5secs like I can with a charged viziam. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.06 21:27:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I still don't understand how you guys ***** about something that's actually completely fine and easy to counter. ARs and every other gun use to be fine. Since when was 0 recoil on a relatively cheap gun that has no weakness fine? Laser rifles have a weakness, unlike how ARs used to be. Do you use an AR? The recoil is basically nothing, it's a non-factor. Whenever they implement the new scopes ARs will be back to where they were. TAC has a big recoil, meh idc never used a TAC. Even with a Balac on old system I couldnt take out 4 opponents in under 5secs like I can with a charged viziam. You can't fire an entire clip into someone's face without firing in bursts anymore, can you? |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:02:00 -
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Lol implying we have trouble killing XD what's a joke just like you |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:06:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Lol implying we have trouble killing XD what's a joke just like you Obviously you can't handle the concept of killing a laser rifle user. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.06 22:07:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Lol implying we have trouble killing XD what's a joke just like you Obviously you can't handle the concept of killing a laser rifle user. You seem to misunderstand, it's not that any of us have trouble. The people asking for the nerf are the ones that have used them extensively. |
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