You seem to misunderstand, it's not that any of us have trouble. The people asking for the nerf are the ones that have used them extensively.

You seem to misunderstand, it's not that any of us have trouble. The people asking for the nerf are the ones that have used them extensively.

i still wont give in to a nerf cause in the past we saw to many stupid requests from your corp. That simple.

Dark please save the world by becoming a mime. If lasers are op then give me back my old AR they were the exact same thing except mine had a smaller clip :)

Since when was 0 recoil on a relatively cheap gun that has no weakness fine? Laser rifles have a weakness, unlike how ARs used to be.

Dark please save the world by becoming a mime. If lasers are op then give me back my old AR they were the exact same thing except mine had a smaller clip :)

i still wont give in to a nerf cause in the past we saw to many stupid requests from your corp. That simple.

80k for a gun is NOT cheap no matter how you want to paint it. the ELM and standard LR are okay, but there nothing compared to the viziam and thats the one everyone thinks is OP.

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The only time they seem to be too powerful is when they're on the ridiculously small maps where there's no room to do anything against them.

ARs need recoil how many times do I have to repeat it you idiot, the proto laser melts people simple as that. Counter is another laser. How was the tar countered with another tar so yeah lasers need a nerf or other weapons need their damage back and no this flat 10 year old girl that this game has become

Sooo... the laser doesn't turn into an arrow for snipers? And you can't easily sneak into close range?

To amend my request... The VIZIAM is OP and needs a nerf. The regular Laser Rifle and the ELM seem to be on par with others of its class.

You are such a terrible troll it's actually pretty sad, I will tell you, I (which means me) H-A-V-E N-O P-R-O-B-L-E-M K-I-L-L-I-N-G P-E-O-P-L-E(which means I am overpowered with whatever I use, which with this build is the proto Laser) did you understand that or should I use smaller words?

Now allow me to point this out for people who don't read their own post.

counter is actually a scoutsuit with a shotgun.

You are such a terrible troll it's actually pretty sad, I will tell you, I (which means me) H-A-V-E N-O P-R-O-B-L-E-M K-I-L-L-I-N-G P-E-O-P-L-E(which means I am overpowered with whatever I use, which with this build is the proto Laser) did you understand that or should I use smaller words?

This thread was never about you. If it is, you should submit yourself for a nerf, because clearly you are OP.

Yes, Zitro should be nerfed. He should move at only half speed, he should only use scrambler pistols at 1/2 clip, he should only hipfire, he shouldn't have access to vehicles, he should only use militia gear, he should have no way to resupply, and he shouldn't be able to speak on the forums to voice complaints.

AHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE.

Am I the only one who thinks this?

WTF probs can confirm that lasers are a non factor in corp matches as we saw last time. Its nice to keep the enemy at distance but taking objectives requires close quarter combat with AR's. Its not possible to win with a laser on its own. And most of my kills where with a AR in corp matches and some people claim that i use lasers non stop. Its a situational weapon like shotguns and sniper rifles. Only good in one role while a AR can still perform most tasks much better.

Wow dark said somthing I agree with they are not all that useful in corp battles.

Still a tad Op in ambush tho.

LOL at players bias against imperfects. The fact that the laser rifle is OP is unquestionable. The only thing I think that needs to be changed is the heat up over time when just firing (and not hitting a target) you can make the gun so powerful before you start shooting people and just swipe it around to get many insta kills. I see Cyn and Zitro do this constantly and laugh as they do it as well. Despite what you biased players might think Cyn and Zitro (as well as most of the imperfects) want this game to succeed and know when they see something that needs to be tweaked.

I dont know of ANY imperfect who stated there should be no change to the old ARs everyone I have talked to wanted the ARs to have recoil and that it was stupid that they did not. However the problem with the AR nerf was and still is the sight issue. Now people are realizing more and more that lasers are OP and of course people are starting to migrate more towards lasers. Are they weak at close range? Yes....does this one draw back mean they are not OP? No the tac rifle was considered OP by you even though one could argue that its drawback is that it has a small mag? Your other arguement of "find cover" can be said about any weapon. Is the old tac OP....no you should have just found cover so its your own fault that you died.

I do not understand how you can make these arguments that are so weak and yet you see them as valid arguments on why the laser is not OP. You can put any weapon that has been known to be OP during the course of this beta in the same argument you are making and it would hold just as much water. (LOLmissiles OP? No just find cover and weakness is travel time)

You guys end your arguments to Cyn and Zitro with a "git gud" argument and yet do these players have any issues killing people? No they dont they absolutely destroy in practically every game they are in. You claim their "stats" are left over from the OP days of the TAC and yet your stats arent left over from the "OP" days of the LOLmissiles which you were known to use before they got their overnerf?

So I guess the real question is are you guys arguing this because you truly cannot see the proof of the imbalance of the very weapon you use? (imperfects could see this with the lack of recoil on the AR) Or do you just despise the imperfects so much that no matter what is said you will be opposed to it?

How did a simple discussion about Laser Rifles all of a sudden become all-about Imperfects is beyond me. People stated their points for or against it and then let CCP decide depending on the sound arguments as well as their own playtest data. No need to go about and stroke one's epeen.

With all due respect to your corp, as I know for a fact that you guys can walk the talk and all, but all I got from your post is how butt-hurt you got from having the TAC AR nerfed. Ours is not decide what should be nerfed, that's CCP's. We merely state our own opinions for-or-against a certain mechanic of the game. So there is no need to "try" and understand anyone's arguments. Play the game and exploit whatever is that's there if CCP finds the need to ban it, they will.