i just joined the beta so granted i don't have any great guns or armor but when this game launches this will affect new players who want to join after the initial launch, trying to join in right away no one will play for very long. the skill menu is confusing took me about an hour to figure it out, i know there are tutorials but i don't feel like sitting there for an hour to listen how to play. anyone playing for awhile will wreck any noob in seconds with superior fire power and armor a swell. I tried to buy some new guns and armor and the prices are so high and to buy multiple for every time a die is mind blowing. If i buy a gun i should get like 20 not just one. I know this is a beta but these issues need to be addressed soon rather then later. Oh and remove the limited number of clones for skirmish it turns it into no more then death match with people camping objectives for the kills and a easy win. plus not a bug fan of the arrows over everyone's head especially enemies makes it far to easy to find someone and makes snipping difficult give us a kill cam maybe but get rid of it. again i know this is a beta and your trying to do something new with making it free to play but right now id much rather go pay for a $60 game and have fun then waste time on this.

i just joined the beta so granted i don't have any great guns or armor but when this game launches this will affect new players who want to join after the initial launch, trying to join in right away no one will play for very long. the skill menu is confusing took me about an hour to figure it out, i know there are tutorials but i don't feel like sitting there for an hour to listen how to play. anyone playing for awhile will wreck any noob in seconds with superior fire power and armor a swell. I tried to buy some new guns and armor and the prices are so high and to buy multiple for every time a die is mind blowing. If i buy a gun i should get like 20 not just one. I know this is a beta but these issues need to be addressed soon rather then later. Oh and remove the limited number of clones for skirmish it turns it into no more then death match with people camping objectives for the kills and a easy win. plus not a bug fan of the arrows over everyone's head especially enemies makes it far to easy to find someone and makes snipping difficult give us a kill cam maybe but get rid of it. again i know this is a beta and your trying to do something new with making it free to play but right now id much rather go pay for a $60 game and have fun then waste time on this.

Welcome to New Eden.
Adapt or Die.
HTFU... I don't know the syntax for links so could someone add the video link for me.

Hello and welcome to DUST 514. I would like to know if you've completed the tutorials. The present version has this tutorials:

1- Neocom
2- Skills
3- Market
4- Fitting

I'm afraid that if you don't spend time learning the basics of the game through the tutorials, You will have questions that probably the tutorials can answer.
My advise will be: complete the tutorials.

And if You have more questions about certain topics of the game; then You are more than welcome to elaborate and post your questions in the training room sub forum

Cheers

Hello and welcome to DUST 514. I would like to know if you've completed the tutorials. The present version has this tutorials:

1- Neocom
2- Skills
3- Market
4- Fitting

I'm afraid that if you don't spend time learning the basics of the game through the tutorials, You will have questions that probably the tutorials can answer.
My advise will be: complete the tutorials.

And if You have more questions about certain topics of the game; then You are more than welcome to elaborate and post your questions in the training room sub forum

Cheers

Dust 514 is not your pick up and play arcade FPS, so you got to learn the basics. Just complete the tutorials dude, its very simple to understand, Even I can do it.

Hello and welcome to DUST 514. I would like to know if you've completed the tutorials. The present version has this tutorials:

1- Neocom
2- Skills
3- Market
4- Fitting

I'm afraid that if you don't spend time learning the basics of the game through the tutorials, You will have questions that probably the tutorials can answer.
My advise will be: complete the tutorials.

And if You have more questions about certain topics of the game; then You are more than welcome to elaborate and post your questions in the training room sub forum

Cheers

I don't really understand what is so wrong with joining the game and immediately going into a match. You can learn to upgrade your character and try out new suits later.

Well well well fresh meat

Tutorials don't really cut it. You should get people into the action as soon as possible and preferrably train them along the way. When you get PvE, trash the tutorials and train as you go. Tutorials will just bore the **** out of everyone.

Welcome to New Eden.
Adapt or Die.
HTFU

edit: thanks maken

Get the free LAV and run them over. Nothing makes them more angry than getting killed by a Baloch or Onikuma.

This is my very first post and I couldn't possibly find a better thread to post on. OP, it appears to me that you are judging this game on preconceived notions of fps games. Big mistake! One battle should show you that. This game is confusing at first, yes. However, you get out what you put in. Take the time watch the tuts. It's worth it. I get raped all the time. Its part of the atmosphere and I feel legitimacy of the game. If someone has been a merc for longer it stands to reason that person would have better gear, weapons, armor, skill, and overall know how. I love this game. It breaks the fps mold. Totally. What works in run and gun games does not here. Those who enjoy lone wolf run and gun will fade. Just like they did at MAG's release. To claim that the dev must fix all that you claim is broken is very short sighted. CCP has attempted something truly gamechanging here. Stand back and admire it. Adapt to it. I for one would like to see the cookie cutter gun games go away totally. Dust is about consequences. Buy what you want but if you die you lose it. Blew my mind at first but if you think about it, isn't that about as legit as a shooter can get? People always cry for realism. Its here my friend and its freaking complicated.

This game needs to have a tutorial similar to Warhawk's tutorial that went through all of the weapons and vehicles.

Tutorials don't really cut it. You should get people into the action as soon as possible and preferrably train them along the way. When you get PvE, trash the tutorials and train as you go. Tutorials will just bore the **** out of everyone.

What this game really needs is a training grounds/obstacle course type area that you can go to at any time to use owned weapons, equipment, and vehicles without risk of losing your stock. Then, make that area an optional tutorial that teaches the basic fundamentals of combat the first time you enter it.

Unless there already is one, in which case I don't know about it yet. Just got in the beta. All I know is the first time I went into combat I had no idea what I was doing. How to sprint, how to fire, how to switch weapons, etc.

Uh, PC Gamers are hardcore, Minecraft being the first game that casual players on PC took a shine too besides WoW. DUST's success will come from the casual gamers, who are far more willing to pick up a console game then a PC game. Why? PC Games communities are elitest assholes who think in an FPS that you can't even have an opinion without a 2.0 KDR. Throw in the availability of the PS3 compared to PC, It's just easier to sit down and relax to rather then sitting down in front of my computer.

The latest statistics from netflix says PS3 is there number 1 platform for online streaming, beating out PC. This goes to show the change of mind people are having towards consoles in general, and shows CCP may be on the right track making this a console exclusive.

I think PC gamers have a harder time being casual then console ones, and graphics have nothing to do with anything.

And for the post above me -I'd rather drop $60 bucks on a new game then spend 20 to make dust fun- This is a joke statement right? You'd rather drop 60 bucks on just any other FPS then spend 20 on possibly making a character rock in an ever expansive and growing game? You sir, are a rager.

Yes im saying they are different for that reason so think about the regular ps3 gamer who trys this game. THIS IS NOT A CASUAL GAME IN ANYWAY! As far as droping $20 on a ****** looking game that takes way to much time to be casual vs a $60 solid great looking game that i can jump on play and have fun any day any time ill take it. Just a FYI IM NOT A COD FAN IN ANY WAY. I enjoy Killzone and playing Resistance fall of man 1 before cod ****** it.

But... you're wrong.
This game will *Supposedly* last for years, well beyond any 60 dollar game you pay for. By the time the servers are closed for that 60 dollar game 2 years from now, DUST will be launching surface to space game play and putting down mechanics to allow NPCs to get involved in planetary battles. Your 20 bucks today could lead you into battles and meta gaming you never of dreamed of. But instead, you bought BF4, blew up a building with 3 people in it, and got to fly in an aircraft with 30 other people at once. Then you gladly did it all over again, and again, and again.

Its been stated before and i think they all make a good point this game needs better tutorials and what would e nice is online missions that are co-op not pvp. Do missions or contracts that you can earn gear and in game currency with out fighting others. If this game wants to be like a rpg then make it like one. Just like in WOW not everyone is doing pvp 24/7 they do missions and such to build their character. this will allow newcomers to come in and have fun before joining the fight. But just jumping in as a wet fish where is the fun if you just wrecked when you try. Like the fact you lose everything but getting it back somewhat should not seem like a job. This is a game not an occupation. And yes other games have it where vets wreck noobs but to this scale not where is it this bad. a slightly better lmg at lvl 20 vs a assault rifle at lvl 2 your good. but armor, weapons, modules, vehicles, and everything else a vet has vs a noob at lvl 1 the odds are stacked much higher in this game then any other.

2015 ps3 servers close

I hope it gets really big if you think it will go to ps4. better update the graphics and such. Cause i see this game filling a small niche in games i would love to see filled but execution so far not such much. Give me missions and contracts for co-op PvE and I can see people getting on board and even i will drop real cash on this game but as it sits you better get the most out of it till 2015 cause i dont see it being popular on ps4.

Yea, looks don't count for much to me. It's nice, but the mechanic of the game is what will keep me coming back."

But then again, my all time favorite games are the Romance of the Three Kingdoms ones. Graphics, non-exitant

I agree I enjoy classic games and graphics aren't big for me. But look at the market and the new HD remastering of games. Dont just think about your self you need to think about others and if they will play. lol i wish they made a game just for me but i dont know how many people will buy it, that kinda thing. But i will say this GIVE ME MY FINAL FANTASY 7 HD REMAKE! lol

Just to state i do like the idea that my actions matter and that i have to play this game with my limits in mind about what kind of gear i have and if i lose i lose it to. But unless your a eve vet ummm i could really give two ***** about taking my time to find what some one is running and what kind of load out they have then i have to get my team cooperate in taking down an individual. NOW STOP think about that.....get my cooperate unless your playing with friends or a clan your ******. no one cooperates in any game even in LOL where the game is based on it and if they don't have mics good luck with that. I enjoy a challenge and as far as putting a kill limit on the skirmish mode i have no clue why you want that when your suppose to going for objectives vs kills like i said it invites camping. Kill-cams im not a fan but what dictates line of sight if my camera is in your general direction i can see you, your in my line of sight if you can see me unless you can see through walls. (don't argue this its physics) I enjoy the challenge but like i said im not going to pay to play if the game is free then that's how i play it same goes for LOL i don't pay unless i really want a skin. Im not going to pay for blue prints they should be accessible in game currency otherwise anyone who pays again will **** on others. if that's the case where i have to pay then ill get a good game like killzone. The other concern is and ill let it slide with it being a beta is the game looks like crap im playing on my ps2. reminds me of a ****** version of killzone 1. I want to get into this game i really do trust me but right now there is nothing that makes me want to play. If you want to make a game where dieing really matters im all for it but make smaller maps that allow for tactical play. Metal Gear online did a great job and so did MAG. this game the cost of death is to high with little reward. Almost mandatory you play with a clan or mics which i like but good-luck finding actually players granted i come from mindset of 5th graders that play and do what they want but lil here shows me its any diffrent you will always ahve the people who will do what they want and **** the team over but when that means i lose items i put time into getting and get spawned killed or even a regular kill **** it.

Call of Duty has elevated quite a lot of people's ADHD. This is a problem.... for them. If you don't want to spend an hour going through a tutorial to play, then don't complain about not knowing how things work. It took me almost 2 full days just to get through the Tutorials in Eve, and that was just the begining of what was to come.

If you want something quick go jerk off or play COD. As for me I shall retain my patience and continue to learn about this game and going through any and all Tutorials CCP has laid out for us, as well as reading informative forums topics. Lots of good info in the training ground pages. But I guess that would take patience and time...

Call of Duty has elevated quite a lot of people's ADHD. This is a problem.... for them. If you don't want to spend an hour going through a tutorial to play, then don't complain about not knowing how things work. It took me almost 2 full days just to get through the Tutorials in Eve, and that was just the begining of what was to come.

If you want something quick go jerk off or play COD. As for me I shall retain my patience and continue to learn about this game and going through any and all Tutorials CCP has laid out for us, as well as reading informative forums topics. Lots of good info in the training ground pages. But I guess that would take patience and time...