Seriously CCP? The turrets itself where fine the only thing that made them OP where the bonuses from skillbooks combined with damage mods. Well i go back to blaster cause you can take out infantry with that crap.

well tanks can still use blasters but you do have to remember that dropships had only 1 option and that where missiles. Basically they are now unarmed.

well tanks can still use blasters but you do have to remember that dropships had only 1 option and that where missiles. Basically they are now unarmed.

At last ... now there might be a bit of variety to what we get slaughtered by when vehicles deploy.

With any luck they'll now have a range aswell ... to stop the heaviest snipers in the game ... there's enough complaint on here about snipers doing nothing good ... well HAVs half the time are exactly the same hilltop snipers doing nothing good for their team.

Edited : dropships do still need some attention though ... they having a hard time fitting in balanced ... swarms should be able to hit them but not 1 shot at equal ish levels ... and they should have defensive capabilities without becoming gunships (that's what gunships will be for)

variety? What? We have missiles, railguns and blasters. Now 2 out off 3 turrets are not even aible to take on infantry. All what left are blasters. They are good if you can aim and its allmost a insta kill with large turrets. Just wait till we get there where all tankers are using blasters and getting rid off the guys hiding behind hills with swarm launchers.

I cant wait till I can get on and still dominate from the sky. Im thinking this nerf is only going to matter for the pilots who circle the map. I mostly hover and the nerf only means it will take an extra shot or two for my gunners, which would only take an extra second or two.

I could be wrong because I havent tried it out yet but if it works out as i think then only skilled pilots will fly (and survive) while still getting a respectable amount of points. Sure there may be a 25% decrease in the amount of kills but that would still be enough to have a large presence on the battlefield.

Unfortunately I cant test my ideas till saturday

well tanks can still use blasters but you do have to remember that dropships had only 1 option and that where missiles. Basically they are now unarmed.

So dropships will now be used to drop people off.

What blasphemy is this?

First of all missiles were just overall OP, Mr. vehicle specialist.

Second of all isn't the blaster meant for infantry in the first place?

So dropships will now be used to drop people off.

What blasphemy is this?

Ok then tell me how are pilots now getting SP/WP? All pilots will probably go 0-0 with 0WP. I would be quite happy if you would get rewarded with like 25WP for every spawn in your dropship (or any other vehicle that has a mobile CRU) but no we dont get that cause only drop uplinks have this feature which is bollocks.

I know the issue but it cant be helped yet. WP in the match is aswell a factor off ISK gain and nobody will use a dropship if you get very low payouts like 50.000ISK. While on the other hand a fully loaded dropship can cost you easy between 300-400 grand each. And investing so much ISK just for transport is not acceptable. It would be so easy to give the pilot WP for spawns or drops outs from his dropship. Basically pilot= WP when some 1 from your team spawns on you. And the thing with logis using a repair tool, well i see only 1 guy every 10 matches doing it. And i dont think these guys are happy that they aint getting WP for doing so.

Ok then tell me how are pilots now getting SP/WP? All pilots will probably go 0-0 with 0WP. I would be quite happy if you would get rewarded with like 25WP for every spawn in your dropship (or any other vehicle that has a mobile CRU) but no we dont get that cause only drop uplinks have this feature which is bollocks.

Feel mad darky cloudy ?

lol how the tables have turned

On my side, still mad they didn't make it BEFORE the tourny

Allright blast radius and splash damage has beeing nerfed on all missile turrets. (stats before and after the nerf)
-Large fragmented ST-201 missiles:
blast radius: 6.8m
damage: 150HP

now:
blast radius: 4.0m
damage: 80HP


-small fragmented St-1:
blast radius: 6.8m
damage: 180

now:
blast radius: 2.7m
damage: 75HP


Seriously CCP? The turrets itself where fine the only thing that made them OP where the bonuses from skillbooks combined with damage mods. Well i go back to blaster cause you can take out infantry with that crap.

Good point.

But you'll have to admit that the repair tool does not cost 200.000+ ISK

Missile turrets were OP. They needed a nerf, and blasters and railguns a light buff.

No problem though, they probably will get it right next time.

So basically, the OP has just come to conclusion that not only is he a Non-factor in Corp matches, but now he is a Non-factor in Pub matches as well.

Sorry your transport vehicle cannot go 50+ in matches anymore... guess you might have to actually transport people now LMFAO

Not really im skilled into tanks aswell. Silly regnum thinks that i put all my SP on a single horse how foolish. Actually i can handle quite good the stabilized large blaster. And nope im not calling in any dropships cause i wont get any SP and WP by doing that. And just lol its never me who goes 50+. But i will when i get pilot controlled turrets which are strapped on a gunship. Im mainly sad that my beloved LAV's have lost it function completely. R.I.P. Saga.

Drop ships only had one option if they wanted to camp, or skirt around the edges of the map at high speeds and high altitudes

gg if you get a serious kill using anything but missles in any situation.

Missiles obviously still aren't that bad.

For a while, my methana (with a prototype blaster, best damage mod on the market, and good gunner) got all the infantry into hiding.

Than along came an LAV with a missile launcher, and it kept me on the run for the rest of the battle.

In my latest experience with rockets i went 4 and 2 and we were in the air for most of the match until our ship was forged to the ground. The missiles have been way over nerfed not only has the blast radius been shrunk if you are caught in it you would see your pet gerbil could survive it making this a direct hit weapon and a close range one at that because the missile disappears into thin air after 200 meters. This is such an unfair nerf to players who spect into drop ships and missile turrets millions of sp were talking here. so how do we fix this nerf into more of a compromise. Increase the range by at least 100 meters because 200 is a pathetic insult my paintball gun shoots further, but keep the same tiny blast radius this gives enemy units a chance to get to cover as well as av guys to get a few more shots off before getting to cover but if you are just standing there or running out in the open and i put a rocket less than 2 meters away IT SHOULD do a lethal amount of damage especially to militia fittings. I feel this is a good compromise STAND THERE and you take rockets RUN and you will probably live so PLEASE CCP give us back our blast damage and keep the tiny radius taking away both is rendering the turret useless. They sit there and laugh at you through a storm of missiles. This sound like call of duty mischief.

I realize getting 64/0 matches is absurd but those were the ones where nobody was trying to shoot us down, it only takes 1 or 2 prototype forge blasts or swarm rockets. Teamwork and the right stuff takes care of any vehicle. CCP you give them the right stuff they just complain because they cant use teamwork. GIVE US THE MISSILE BLAST DAMAGE BACK!!!

My Sica's Militia Small Missile Turret works just fine. I can hit hard enough to one-shot some Militia Assaults. Well-fitted Scouts can tank a near-miss, but that's not a problem for me.

Large Missile Turrets need fixing. Small Missile Turrets could use a SLIGHT range buff, a SLIGHT splash damage buff, OR a SLIGHT buff to radius. Pick ONE, and they'll be in line with where vehicle weapons should be.

Stop whining over your DROPSHIP no longer being effective as a GUNSHIP.

not only is it done as a gunship how the bloody hell are you going to land in a hot zone without a proper area of affect weapon because its like good luck hitting someone with a blaster or a railgun. Im not whining about dropships im saying the missile turret got a double nerf PLUS you can only kill those guys with your small gunnlogi turrets because you are less than 50 meters from them. the drop ship is an air vehicle that fits turrets who say we cant attack with them. like i said before it only takes a few forge blasts to get us, probably about the a third of what a tank can take. We get one shotted by tanks we can almost never stop because of swarms. If your blue dots cant pull it together to take down a flying bus then they deserve to die. A gunship would have something more evil than the small missile turret. i cant wait till you little cod pricks start complaining about artillery turrets and jets.

I love the tears you no skill drop ship *****. This day was coming scrub boy.

In my latest experience with rockets i went 4 and 2 and we were in the air for most of the match until our ship was forged to the ground. The missiles have been way over nerfed not only has the blast radius been shrunk if you are caught in it you would see your pet gerbil could survive it making this a direct hit weapon and a close range one at that because the missile disappears into thin air after 200 meters. This is such an unfair nerf to players who spect into drop ships and missile turrets millions of sp were talking here. so how do we fix this nerf into more of a compromise. Increase the range by at least 100 meters because 200 is a pathetic insult my paintball gun shoots further, but keep the same tiny blast radius this gives enemy units a chance to get to cover as well as av guys to get a few more shots off before getting to cover but if you are just standing there or running out in the open and i put a rocket less than 2 meters away IT SHOULD do a lethal amount of damage especially to militia fittings. I feel this is a good compromise STAND THERE and you take rockets RUN and you will probably live so PLEASE CCP give us back our blast damage and keep the tiny radius taking away both is rendering the turret useless. They sit there and laugh at you through a storm of missiles. This sound like call of duty mischief.

I realize getting 64/0 matches is absurd but those were the ones where nobody was trying to shoot us down, it only takes 1 or 2 prototype forge blasts or swarm rockets. Teamwork and the right stuff takes care of any vehicle. CCP you give them the right stuff they just complain because they cant use teamwork. GIVE US THE MISSILE BLAST DAMAGE BACK!!!

Genova you knew damn well this day would come. CCP wasn't going to let scrubs like you to winbutton dust because you new how to push r1 really well.

How stupid do you have to be to think that was even remotely the way it was going to be?

I read your post and thats all i could think about. You really thought thats what dust was going to be. So boo-fking-hoo scrub boy.

This guy is the sole reason they should give us missles back. Your AR not kill vehicles?

[quote=Garrett Blacknova][quote=Genova cell SIN]In my latest experience with rockets i went 4 and 2 and we were in the air for most of the match until our ship was forged to the ground. The missiles have been way over nerfed not only has the blast radius been shrunk if you are caught in it you would see your pet gerbil could survive it making this a direct hit weapon and a close range one at that because the missile disappears into thin air after 200 meters. This is such an unfair nerf to players who spect into drop ships and missile turrets millions of sp were talking here. so how do we fix this nerf into more of a compromise. Increase the range by at least 100 meters because 200 is a pathetic insult my paintball gun shoots further, but keep the same tiny blast radius this gives enemy units a chance to get to cover as well as av guys to get a few more shots off before getting to cover but if you are just standing there or running out in the open and i put a rocket less than 2 meters away IT SHOULD do a lethal amount of damage especially to militia fittings. I feel this is a good compromise STAND THERE and you take rockets RUN and you will probably live so PLEASE CCP give us back our blast damage and keep the tiny radius taking away both is rendering the turret useless. They sit there and laugh at you through a storm of missiles. This sound like call of duty mischief.

I realize getting 64/0 matches is absurd but those were the ones where nobody was trying to shoot us down, it only takes 1 or 2 prototype forge blasts or swarm rockets. Teamwork and the right stuff takes care of any vehicle. CCP you give them the right stuff they just complain because they cant use teamwork. GIVE US THE MISSILE BLAST DAMAGE BACK!!!

They are supposed to be Air-Buses, not missle platforms. We are getting more air vehicles that will add the "killer" aspect back into it. When the fighters come out, it'll then be infantrys turn to cry again.

I have swarms and forges that work just fine. I can use plenty of different weapons and have skilled into them as such. Genova justs QQ because thats all the game he has.

Love me or hate me but i speak the truth on this one.

aaand the cycle continues...

i would allready be happy if i could replace the small missiles with a proper HMG and no a blaster is not even close to a HMG. Personally i think the HMG for heavy's should also be aible to be fit on any kind of vehicle aswell. That would give for example LAV's their firepower back and dropships who would fly close to the ground still a threat and not just be viewed as a flying pinata.

Yea the QQ that will be Dust when the actual damage dealers roll out. Although one would assume the addition of fighters would keep gunships somewhat in check.