DUST Search - Transfering Isk to Dust wallets from EvE

Jariel Manton wrote:

CCP Nullarbor wrote:

FatalFlaw V1 wrote:

CCP Nullarbor wrote:

Transferring ISK from an EVE account to a DUST account is unintended behaviour. I would recommend the corporations who have done this to leave it in their corporation wallets while we investigate.

If we are to believe the codex patch notes, no, I don't believe it is..

Codex patch notes

CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:

Player Corporations
* DUST Players are able to create their own corporations and accept applications from other players
* Players are able to apply to join an existing player corporation, from EVE Online
* DUST players can join an existing EVE Online corporation and vice versa
* The CEO can appoint the Director role to members
* A corp member can view a list of all his corp mates
* Corporations have a corporation wallet managed by its directors
* A corp member can donate money to his corporation
* A Corporation director can give money to members from the corporation wallet
* New skills added for Corporation management

It's laid out pretty clearly there.

The catch here is that the corporation and player wallet divisions in EVE and DUST are separate and transferring between is supposed to be denied.

However we fully realize that players did not know it was unintended, it was not obvious so we will take the blame on that.

I hope that is only because of the beta, i feel like it would be silly for the movement of isk between games to not be allowed in the final product, in this instance where isk doesnt mean anything on sisi it can upset the balance but on tq isk means something so it wont be spent frivolously.

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CCP Nullarbor C C P C C P Alliance 540	Posted - 2012.10.20 23:59:00 - [61] - Quote JoshuaEvil666 wrote: Quote: The catch here is that the corporation and player wallet divisions in EVE and DUST are separate and transferring between is supposed to be denied. However we fully realize that players did not know it was unintended, it was not obvious so we will take the blame on that. you do know its not a cheat or hack or exploit right ? it was done using an ingame mechanic, nothing unusual Its not a cheat or a hack, but our definition of an exploit extends to using in game mechanics in ways in which they were not intended to be used. Of course that's a fuzzy line at CCP since our games revolve around emergent behaviour. We're not looking to lay the smack down on anyone, but we may need to restore the balance so we don't disrupt what we are all here to do which is test the game. I will post details later once we have had a chance to look it over. Cheers.

Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:00:00 - [62] - Quote JoshuaEvil666 wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: If it becomes an issue I know our corp has volunteers willing to make sure everyone in the tourney has access to the funds necessary. We want to compete against the best anyone has to offer. Considering EVE can use SiSi ISK to practice for their alliance tournaments, I see no reason why this should be any different. why do you guys call it sisi isk ? its a miror of whats in your wallet on TQ so it does infact exists it exisits as much as the other you when you look in the mirror.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:00:00 - [63] - Quote JoshuaEvil666 wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: If it becomes an issue I know our corp has volunteers willing to make sure everyone in the tourney has access to the funds necessary. We want to compete against the best anyone has to offer. Considering EVE can use SiSi ISK to practice for their alliance tournaments, I see no reason why this should be any different. why do you guys call it sisi isk ? its a miror of whats in your wallet on TQ so it does infact exists ... evidence of not being an EVE vet. Sisi ISK is not real ISK. 99.9% true.
Cloudy Zan 107	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:01:00 - [64] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: JoshuaEvil666 wrote: Quote: The catch here is that the corporation and player wallet divisions in EVE and DUST are separate and transferring between is supposed to be denied. However we fully realize that players did not know it was unintended, it was not obvious so we will take the blame on that. you do know its not a cheat or hack or exploit right ? it was done using an ingame mechanic, nothing unusual Its not a cheat or a hack, but our definition of an exploit extends to using in game mechanics in ways in which they were not intended to be used. Of course that's a fuzzy line at CCP since our games revolve around emergent behaviour. We're not looking to lay the smack down on anyone, but we may need to restore the balance so we don't disrupt what we are all here to do which is test the game. I will post details later once we have had a chance to look it over. Cheers. Noc Tempre wrote: If it becomes an issue I know our corp has volunteers willing to make sure everyone in the tourney has access to the funds necessary. We want to compete against the best anyone has to offer. Considering EVE can use SiSi ISK to practice for their alliance tournaments, I see no reason why this should be any different. We have the isk and we want fair fights, just sayin.
Beld Errmon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 479	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:02:00 - [65] - Quote This may have been unintended but i would put it to the devs that this is the perfect chance to see how an influx of eve money will effect game play, and btw you don't need to do any character changing or apply to a dust corp using the transfer isk button on the corporate wallet (eve side) allows you to type in the names of dust players and transfer directly. That said I will stop being a socialist now, no more redistribution of wealth.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:02:00 - [66] - Quote OgTheEnigma wrote: I'm rich, I'm rich -> tries to buy 100 Duvolles -> Server goes down -> :( Oh well if it's a wipe or a rollback then so be it. Although it was a nice surprise to log in today and find 10 million in my wallet. Only sent you 10 mil because you killed me like 10 times today!

CCP Nullarbor C C P C C P Alliance 540	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:03:00 - [67] - Quote Jariel Manton wrote: CCP Nullarbor wrote: FatalFlaw V1 wrote: CCP Nullarbor wrote: Transferring ISK from an EVE account to a DUST account is unintended behaviour. I would recommend the corporations who have done this to leave it in their corporation wallets while we investigate. If we are to believe the codex patch notes, no, I don't believe it is.. Codex patch notes CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Player Corporations * DUST Players are able to create their own corporations and accept applications from other players * Players are able to apply to join an existing player corporation, from EVE Online * DUST players can join an existing EVE Online corporation and vice versa * The CEO can appoint the Director role to members * A corp member can view a list of all his corp mates * Corporations have a corporation wallet managed by its directors * A corp member can donate money to his corporation * A Corporation director can give money to members from the corporation wallet * New skills added for Corporation management It's laid out pretty clearly there. The catch here is that the corporation and player wallet divisions in EVE and DUST are separate and transferring between is supposed to be denied. However we fully realize that players did not know it was unintended, it was not obvious so we will take the blame on that. I hope that is only because of the beta, i feel like it would be silly for the movement of isk between games to not be allowed in the final product, in this instance where isk doesnt mean anything on sisi it can upset the balance but on tq isk means something so it wont be spent frivolously. We will obviously see ISK flow between the games at some point but there are 2 important reasons why we want to lock it down for now: - ISK on SiSi is meaningless for EVE players because it is their test server not the live server - We need to make sure everything is economically stable first and then ease the flow in or risk unbalancing one of the games. At this stage, the dust economy is still finding its feet so we are not ready for that yet.

Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:04:00 - [68] - Quote What are you all gonna do when this goes live and the goons handout 1 billion to each new recruit? Cry more probably. It is a part of the game and its cold dark universe. Get used to it.
FatalFlaw V1 ISK Faucet Industries 76	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:05:00 - [69] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: The catch here is that the corporation and player wallet divisions in EVE and DUST are separate and transferring between is supposed to be denied. However we fully realize that players did not know it was unintended, it was not obvious so we will take the blame on that. Well, that makes much of the merging of Eve <-> Dust rather pointless. Everything in the patch notes alludes to more meaningful interaction between Eve and Dust. Further, many prices in this dust build have increased from the last. Anyone who didn't have AUR to buy militia BPO's, good luck to them saving money to buy skill books, much less be able to use any decent gear. Secondly, it seems to make no sense because there is no way I have found to withdraw any corp funds from dust. Sure, I see how to put money in, but is it meant to be a black hole that sucks isk into nothingness, never to be seen or withdrawn again?
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:05:00 - [70] - Quote Sok need a rehab from the crash/exile mix and dancing girls anyway,

Virex Staz Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 53	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:06:00 - [71] - Quote So, how about changing all item costs to 100 isk, like on Eve SISI? Maybe just until the next wipe. That would nullify the advantage that has been gained by corps that have used this so far, without having to unravel the thread of isk flow.
Virex Staz Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 53	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:08:00 - [72] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Sisi ISK is not real ISK. 99.9% true. Evidence of this: log on to SISI, buy expensive ship for 100 isk, insure it for 200 million, undock, self-destruct, collect insurance payout.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:08:00 - [73] - Quote Is it a bad time for me to say that I had already stockpiled hundreds of fits and modules for a rainy day and bought all the skill books needed to improve my ninja knifing? The 20 million ISK that I got is already gone. XD
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:08:00 - [74] - Quote Virex Staz wrote: So, how about changing all item costs to 100 isk, like on Eve SISI? Maybe just until the next wipe. That would nullify the advantage that has been gained by corps that have used this so far, without having to unravel the thread of isk flow. Um yea some corp may um have laundered the isk in inventive ways and er well... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:09:00 - [75] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Is it a bad time for me to say that I had already stockpiled hundreds of fits and modules for a rainy day and bought all the skill books needed to improve my ninja knifing? The 20 million ISK that I got is already gone. XD No idea who could have sent that. Go use it all quick b4 they catch up to you.
OgTheEnigma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 90	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:10:00 - [76] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: OgTheEnigma wrote: I'm rich, I'm rich -> tries to buy 100 Duvolles -> Server goes down -> :( Oh well if it's a wipe or a rollback then so be it. Although it was a nice surprise to log in today and find 10 million in my wallet. Only sent you 10 mil because you killed me like 10 times today! Oh you; because of that I'm going to increase my Sha hunting level tenfolds!
FatalFlaw V1 ISK Faucet Industries 76	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:10:00 - [77] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Is it a bad time for me to say that I had already stockpiled hundreds of fits and modules for a rainy day and bought all the skill books needed to improve my ninja knifing? The 20 million ISK that I got is already gone. XD I only burned through about 7 million myself, but it does go quickly.
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 409	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:15:00 - [78] - Quote CCP hot on all your trails!!! Spend it while you got it!!! They all ready shutting down shop!
Cloudy Zan 107	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:15:00 - [79] - Quote Hopefully CCP doesn't subtract the amount of isk transferred from EVE from all of your accounts. I would hate to see everyone in DUST have a negative balance. Me on the other hand, I have not spent or accepted any EVE money so it is possible I could end up being one of the richest players in dust. (Walks away wearing a crappy, but currently highest quality in the game, monicle) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
v3k3v Imperfects Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:16:00 - [80] - Quote If you have your own corp in eve (almost anyone could) Your the ceo and have control to send isk to anyone. Isk was sent to countless people from various eve accounts so the isk is not going specifically to corps in Dust514 it was going to any specific player. As long as you were not abusing it for being the test server and creating magic isk some transfer seems normal. You mine in eve, have 10mil isk and can send it to your dust guy to buy weapons.. its what is intended technically... now guys sending 100mil+ here and there is just wack

The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:19:00 - [81] - Quote well ive got myself around 30 myrons fully loaded with modules and around 14 gunnlogis also fully loaded. Nothing of that ISk from Sisi was left over. Means ive spend 20 million in around 30 secs.
Sick Sick Metagamer 0	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:20:00 - [82] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: Transferring ISK from an EVE account to a DUST account is unintended behaviour. I would recommend the corporations who have done this to leave it in their corporation wallets while we investigate. Wipe them out, all of them! Or get rid of the War Dec Nerf and give PRVTR the ill gotten isk!
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:23:00 - [83] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: well ive got myself around 30 myrons fully loaded with modules and around 14 gunnlogis also fully loaded. Nothing of that ISk from Sisi was left over. Means ive spend 20 million in around 30 secs. So your wallet should be 20 mil in the red now.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:24:00 - [84] - Quote dude calm down. This feature will be in the game later on. It was just a surpise for us that it actually worked. Words where spread on all big corps and we just tried it out. And it works perfect at the moment.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:24:00 - [85] - Quote Cloudy Zan wrote: Hopefully CCP doesn't subtract the amount of isk transferred from EVE from all of your accounts. I would hate to see everyone in DUST have a negative balance. Me on the other hand, I have not spent or accepted any EVE money so it is possible I could end up being one of the richest players in dust. (Walks away wearing a crappy, but currently highest quality in the game, monicle) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Even if your one of the new rich I dont mind saying your looking rather dashing.
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:26:00 - [86] - Quote I'm missing out on all the fun. I need richer friends
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:28:00 - [87] - Quote This will have a noticeable impact on the upcoming tourney. Any bets on a wipe?
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:28:00 - [88] - Quote didnt you guys where the first who tried to transfer 420 billion ISK from EVE to Dust 514? You should have more then enough ISK
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:29:00 - [89] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: dude calm down. This feature will be in the game later on. It was just a surpise for us that it actually worked. Words where spread on all big corps and we just tried it out. And it works perfect at the moment. I'm calm. I was warning you that might happen. Dunno if it will, they've done it before. Not to mention the fact that the ISK you were given isn't "real". I mean I know it's a game and no ISK is real, but even within the game money on SISI isn't real and is only used for SISI. SISI is a place where you can get a gun that shoots cows and does like 10k damage or some such nonsense. Can't remember the details. And people thought the cash was gonna be legit?
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.10.21 00:31:00 - [90] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: I'm missing out on all the fun. I need richer friends \\\\\\Ehen the game goes live yo might wanan think about moving...just saying.....no really come join



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