LOL 4/6

Yeah players just need to adapt and change the way they use the scout. They cannot be used as assaults anymore.

Yeah players just need to adapt and change the way they use the scout. They cannot be used as assaults anymore.

He is telling people to adapt or die but he died more then he adapted. Fail logic.

It reminds of that scrub with the name adaptandkill, he would always go negative.

He is telling people to adapt or die but he died more then he adapted. Fail logic.

It reminds of that scrub with the name adaptandkill, he would always go negative.

well I never said that Scouts weren't at a noticeable disadvantage.

I was just saying that WP(however you get them, whether by killing a lot, or supporting) is more important than K/D. IMO.

He is telling people to adapt or die but he died more then he adapted. Fail logic.

It reminds of that scrub with the name adaptandkill, he would always go negative.

If you are running around with a class that is made for killing playing as support then you are doing it wrong. Especially if you are going negative. I don't care how much wp you have.

Playing with the scout as support to try and claim it isn't useless is idiotic at the very least.

50 WP from kills that 200 WP i got running 10/0 only gets you 500WP so techically translated i got 20/6

War points are greater than kills besides i suck with a mass driver if i could aim it would have been higher.

the point was not to show off, but to show with minimal effort a good build thats not CQC or sniper, could be made

the scouts isnt a direct combat build its a recon suit

If you are running around with a class that is made for killing playing as support then you are doing it wrong.

Playing with the scout as support to try and claim it isn't useless is idiotic at the very least.

A scout with a smg=combat. A scout with a shotgun=combat. Scout with an AR=combat. More fail logic from scouts who go negative and try to justify it with wp and claiming recon.

Logi with a shotgun = combat. logi with a mass driver = combat. logi with a AR = combat.

wtf is he doing repairing stuff, and using a sissy needle to revive people. hacking? pfffffft who cares.

I'll have to keep this in mind when I play my Logi.

Logis don't have to go 4/6. I have seen plenty of logis pull 1.0-2.0 kdrs. People make excuses becuase they are bad.

If you spend most of your time looking at the respawn screen I dought your precious wp and recon skills are really helping the team that much.

Logis don't have to go 4/6. I have seen plenty of logis pull 1.0-2.0 kdrs. People make excuses becuase they are bad.

If you spend most of your time looking at the respawn screen I dought your precious wp and recon skills are really helping the team that much.

i was out on that map getting assist and hacking and provideing supressive fire, i only engaged a few targets one on one and i did win those. besides i more than capable of going 11/1 in my nomral assualt build, most of my skills are not dedicate to this kinda stuff this was proof of concept and it did work if i had better skill and more practice with a mass driver it would have been much higher.

i had level one skill in all of that stuff and was using basic or milita varitions its not like i built a combat build 4/6 is pretty good considering i never used a mass driver before. that 1100 WP is whats important thats what whens battles not k/d

Youare right. Scout is combat regardless. But it is mostly indirect combat such as recon, hacking (though logi is specialized for that), relaying orders, etc. There is very few direct combat it does well. The only best case I see is a hit and with either a smg or the nova knife (which I am specialized in). The ninja knife scout can probably only kill a lone wolf lost in a complex at best while being a pest to the others.

in this game, WP seem to matter more than K/D. thats why you get WP for things other than K/D as well. and that is why you can have some "bad player" with a negative K/D among the top of post-game leaderboards from doing support things.

However, I understand that people will always be obsessed with K/D and will always believe that it is the only thing that matters in any game. and that's just how it will always be.

eh. whatever, we'll have our opinions and they'll always differ. Nothing to do about it.

K/D is important, but it isn't the only thing. people need to get used to that I guess.

K/d Might not be everything but 4/6 is pretty effing awful.
That's like a late join where your team is being redlined score.

this is what people have been saying, but alas, it always falls on deaf ears.

yes, Scout is combat, but it is a different style of combat from a suit like Assault. its not a in-your-face run-and-gun style of combat. and yes, it is partially support.

just ran a milita scout and earned 1147 WP 4/6 K/D ratio

mass driver, sub, injector, dampener. was the only models i used and i racked up WP so no you people complaining just need to adapt. i did this with mimimum skills in that stuff bare bones level one and two.

It's a broken because the strafe was dialed down to sub-snail "please someone shoot me in the face" speed style of combat.

The scout isn't useless, not for the other team.

@crimson

You're right, 4/6 doesn't win battle. Neither does 20/0 if the team you are in doesn't win a match as I saw on several occasions. In one match, my team had the worse k/d ratio but won the match even though the opposing team had staggering k/d ratios across the board.

WP > k/d.

last comment.

I disagree with your hyperbole. It doesn't really feel slow to me. maybe it is because I played Logi last build exclusively, and did not play the Scout till this build.

ether way, I hope they raise the strafe speed to the ceiling in the next build. I hope they raise it so much that nobody bothers to use anything but the Scout Suit. I'm tired or seeing the arguing and bickering over it. I hope CCP does whatever it needs to to make you guys specifically, personally satisfied.

and with that said. you guys win. I'm going to start subscribing to the K/D is Everything, nothing else matters mentality.

huzzah.

I think the point that scouts are trying to make is, what can a scout do better than a kittenault, heavy, or logi? The answer is hide. I don't think this is what ccp intended when they made the classes.

just ran a milita scout and earned 1147 WP 4/6 K/D ratio

mass driver, sub, injector, dampener. was the only models i used and i racked up WP so no you people complaining just need to adapt. i did this with mimimum skills in that stuff bare bones level one and two.

If you are running around with a class that is made for killing playing as support then you are doing it wrong. Especially if you are going negative. I don't care how much wp you have.

Playing with the scout as support to try and claim it isn't useless is idiotic at the very least.

Oh and I kinda hoped someone else would test out some new fits for a scout and back be up. Have any of you tried to run the scout with out worrying about Kdr?

Oh and I kinda hoped someone else would test out some new fits for a scout and back be up. Have any of you tried to run the scout with out worrying about Kdr?

just ran a milita scout and earned 1147 WP 4/6 K/D ratio

mass driver, sub, injector, dampener. was the only models i used and i racked up WP so no you people complaining just need to adapt. i did this with mimimum skills in that stuff bare bones level one and two.

I want to reiterate this, "What can a scout suit do that an assault suit can't do just as well?"

Scout suits are barely faster and assaults have a little more of a signature over scouts.

I'm waiting to see if CCP adds anything next build to make scouts actually worth getting, but as for this build they are useless. The small boosts in stats is dwarfed by the assaults hp.

No QQ its just how it is, ]if you want to adapt switch to assault.

oh hey, did you know you can do the same thing with an assult suit with better results?

more CPU/PG, more armor/shield the same strafe.

yeah, you are totally right that the scout suit has a home.

Nothing.



thats what I did. and now I see that I was wrong.

there is no current reason to use the scout suit over the assault one.

Its cheaper I think, it woud take 2 dampeners to get the same affect while the scout can do it with one all the mods in the world wont change the fact I can walk faster than you, I pretty sure I have more stamina, oh and at medium range that smaller hit box and speed saved me from death.

CCP still needs to increase the mobility and agility of the suit, increase the speed margin, and make more scout related mods.

A crossbow with 100s damage and average reload as a side arm paired with the scouts (should be) faster reload and the skill should get some impressive results