Don't run in the open field.

Don't run in the open field.

Don't run in the open field.

What part of these maps AREN'T open field?

lmao 90% of every map is barren wasteland. You people can't be serious.

lmao 90% of every map is barren wasteland. You people can't be serious.

This.

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Dust 514:

http://aphs.worldnomads.com/shrummer16/12177/P1050184.jpg

Oh so you mean I should hide behind those hills! Way out over there!

Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.

The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either.

Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together.

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Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together.

the counter to a sniper is a Infiltrator/Assassin. which does not exist yet because there is no cloaking.

wait till we get cloaking.

Snipers will die. Nova Knife in the back. painfully.

and no, weapons do not need a range increase. then we'd all be snipers.

Snipers are fine as they are, and this is coming from someone who doesn't snipe.

Would you rather keep that minor nuisance following you around like a fly that won't leave you alone...or would you rather have this nuisance removed completely?

Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.

The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either.

I'd rather keep it.

If you remove snipers, then you may as well remove everything except Assault Suits and the AR and call it a day.

of all the things wrong with Dust 514, you being personally mad at snipers is not even on the list.

Would you rather keep that minor nuisance following you around like a fly that won't leave you alone...or would you rather have this nuisance removed completely?

I know many people who share my same feelings on almost every issue I present on these forums. The thing is most of them gave up on this game a long time ago.

Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.

You clearly don't understand the motivation behind many EVE players. A great number of people would love to spend effort moving up behind a sniper completely undetected and kill that player before they have any idea let alone have any potential to respond.

Oh EVE players. I forgot. This game is designed for EVE players.

This game is trash. Goodbye forever.

To circumvent this obviously game breaking problem CCP should introduce armoured dragons.

Oh EVE players. I forgot. This game is designed for EVE players.

This game is trash. Goodbye forever.

Bet he's off to make a sniper character :)

I know many people who share my same feelings on almost every issue I present on these forums. The thing is most of them gave up on this game a long time ago.

Bet he's off to make a sniper character :)

While I don't agree that the sniping game ruins it for everyone, currently there are too many wannabe snipers in the hills.

It's always a bit of fun shooting from the mountains and pissing off those trying to cap objectives, but if you notice that your team has more than two guys shooting away from up there then perhaps look at going with a different fit out. 6 snipers on the one team is not needed and is really going to lose the game for your team.

The only scenario I can see that would require more than 2 snipers is spawn camping, and then if the enemy team aren't smart enough to be spawning vehicles at that point that would make the snipers redundant, then too bad for them.

Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.

The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either.

Ok, I see. So what your saying is that CCP should give a pistol the same range and damage as a sniper rifle so you feel empowered due to your own inability to find cover or something to stay out of a snipers bullet path. Hey might as well make the bullet be a smart one so it can curve around walls and go through objects too. Just fire in a random direction and you get a kill right? Or be able to use your knova knife to stick him from across the map too. Oh, oh. Or mabey be more like the matrix and be like neo and stop the bullet or mabey see the bullet effect where the bullet came from so you don't have to pay attention to your surroundings.
And I highly disagree with "there is no cover or something to hide behind" BS. If you use your eyes and head, you will see that there is something to hide behind or get out of plane sight as to where your not easy pickings for us snipers.

What exactly is the "New Eden" mentality?

if i get killed by a sniper i simply get my LAV and roll them over. Most of them cant shot a moving enemy. Most of them are staying scoped in and dont pay attention whats happening. Try to sneak up from behind and place a remote explosive under their butt.

Don't run in the open field.

Oh EVE players. I forgot. This game is designed for EVE players.

This game is trash. Goodbye forever.

Maps are to big and gameplay promotes camping. I remember a few builds ago I was actually getting sniped at meduim range. Now almost every sniper sits in the red zone or off in the mountains.

Oh dear god jump not you too.... C'mon man seriously? Why are you jumping on the nerf sniper bandwagon now?? Their aren't really many good snipers in the game that I have seen. Why oh why are you whining about them now?? Moejoe I somewhat understood b/c as far as I knew he was only good at MAG. You on the other hand have a great track record at pretty much any FPS... Yet here we are. Smh I expected more from you bro.

You have obviously never seen moejoes MW3 gameplay. He has a moab montage lol.

Maps are to big and gameplay promotes camping. I remember a few builds ago I was actually getting sniped at meduim range. Now almost every sniper sits in the red zone or off in the mountains.

If snipers had a reduced range, and we could easily see where they are shooting at us from, they wouldn't be so bad.

Oh dear god jump not you too.... C'mon man seriously? Why are you jumping on the nerf sniper bandwagon now?? Their aren't really many good snipers in the game that I have seen. Why oh why are you whining about them now?? Moejoe I somewhat understood b/c as far as I knew he was only good at MAG. You on the other hand have a great track record at pretty much any FPS... Yet here we are. Smh I expected more from you bro.

I'm not whinning about snipers i'm referring to the devolution of this game. Back in march during the early phase of this beta matches consisted of 1-3 snipers at a maximum. Snipers traveled with the team and acted as support for other infantry players. DUST could have been the first game to get sniping correctly besides the later days of MAG with tier 1 snipers in CB's.

However though, As this game continued to devolve build after build into the slow unresponsive campfest that it is now snipers can just sit far off above a mountain or behind a redline completely safe and lone wolf and play for personal stats rather than helping the team achieve victory.

This game is all about head glitching now. Gameplay is slow and caters to players that like to camp.

Seriously. Snipers in COD are even less annoying then Dust's snipers. We're playing on a barren wasteland with next to no cover and using weapons that are completely useless past minimum range so that we can't actually fire back at these people.

Seriously. Snipers in COD are even less annoying then Dust's snipers. We're playing on a barren wasteland with next to no cover and using weapons that are completely useless past minimum range so that we can't actually fire back at these people.

Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.

Lol no, snipers in CoD are the most annoying in the whole gaming industry. And as for dust snipers i only wish more people would snipe, easy kills =)

Seriously. Snipers in COD are even less annoying then Dust's snipers. We're playing on a barren wasteland with next to no cover and using weapons that are completely useless past minimum range so that we can't actually fire back at these people.

I'm not whinning about snipers i'm referring to the devolution of this game. Back in march during the early phase of this beta matches consisted of 1-3 snipers at a maximum. Snipers traveled with the team and acted as support for other infantry players. DUST could have been the first game to get sniping correctly besides the later days of MAG with tier 1 snipers in CB's.

However though, As this game continued to devolve build after build into the slow unresponsive campfest that it is now snipers can just sit far off above a mountain or behind a redline completely safe and lone wolf and play for personal stats rather than helping the team achieve victory.

This game is all about head glitching now. Gameplay is slow and caters to players that like to camp.

Umm no since back then everyone had disco shoes and it took several AR clips to kill folks.

Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.

The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either.

I wasn't in the beta in march, what changed?

I'm not whinning about snipers i'm referring to the devolution of this game. Back in march during the early phase of this beta matches consisted of 1-3 snipers at a maximum. Snipers traveled with the team and acted as support for other infantry players. DUST could have been the first game to get sniping correctly besides the later days of MAG with tier 1 snipers in CB's.

However though, As this game continued to devolve build after build into the slow unresponsive campfest that it is now snipers can just sit far off above a mountain or behind a redline completely safe and lone wolf and play for personal stats rather than helping the team achieve victory.

This game is all about head glitching now. Gameplay is slow and caters to players that like to camp.

I'm not whinning about snipers i'm referring to the devolution of this game. Back in march during the early phase of this beta matches consisted of 1-3 snipers at a maximum. Snipers traveled with the team and acted as support for other infantry players. DUST could have been the first game to get sniping correctly besides the later days of MAG with tier 1 snipers in CB's.

However though, As this game continued to devolve build after build into the slow unresponsive campfest that it is now snipers can just sit far off above a mountain or behind a redline completely safe and lone wolf and play for personal stats rather than helping the team achieve victory.

This game is all about head glitching now. Gameplay is slow and caters to players that like to camp.

I've seen sniper teams in ambush really mop up, but you're completely right about skirmish. Too many snipers make it impossible to hold objectives unless they're the kind of sniper who moves in with their backup weapon to help take the objective then picks off other snipers from where they are.

What part of these maps AREN'T open field?

inb4nerfthesnipers

I cant stand the sniping infestation sometimes...

not because I get killed, I dont get killed often by them, maybe 1 time per match on the more open maps. the reason is that so many welps are doing it and ruining the match. isnt it great when you rush an objective just to realize that most of your teammates are scattered around the map, camping on some hills and doing NOTHING...

Improvise, adapt, overcome Space Marine!

I cant stand the sniping infestation sometimes...

not because I get killed, I dont get killed often by them, maybe 1 time per match on the more open maps. the reason is that so many welps are doing it and ruining the match. isnt it great when you rush an objective just to realize that most of your teammates are scattered around the map, camping on some hills and doing NOTHING...

I don't mean to be rude but I think the game is currently in the shape it is due to "[BLANK] Will Kill This Game" authors. Sure, the graphics and hit detection are better but the dynamic of the entire game is a little screwed up with the new SP caps and dropsuit equaling. I think authors of "[BLANK] Will Kill This Game" posts are killing this game. That's just my opinion though.

Go back to COD my friend because this is going to happen. Like everyone else has said, don't be in the open.

I don't see the purpose in having snipers in COD in the first place...the maps are too small for that.

Seriously. Snipers in COD are even less annoying then Dust's snipers. We're playing on a barren wasteland with next to no cover and using weapons that are completely useless past medium range so that we can't actually fire back at these people.

Ok so snipers are annoying, they sit in the hills and shoot you. On the other hand heavey's are also a pain if you run In to them, you just have to learn tactics to deal with them.

But with heavys, they actually fight face to face

But with heavys, they actually fight face to face

are you looking for honor in a game about shooting people set in the universe where it is expected that players stab each other in the back?

I wouldn't expect honor. I expect a remote charge on the objectives and to get killed by someone who has the chance to take me out before i even know they are there.

I know many people who share my same feelings on almost every issue I present on these forums. The thing is most of them gave up on this game a long time ago.

The point is sniping is undoubtedly the easiest way to rack kills with very little risk while every other class takes a large risk

My point is that I'm fine with that. The point of the sniper is to disrupt enemy infantry operations from a distance and it is doing just that.stay out of the open and keep an eye out for the little red chevrons in the hills and put an object between you and them.

I really like the idea of a smoke grenade. it can give you a way to take an objective without alot of people raining fire on you.

and best part is that it doesn't invoke the dreaded nerfhammer that ccp dropped on repair tools.

Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.