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Villanor Aquarius
Shattered Ascension
79
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:38:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote: Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.
You clearly don't understand the motivation behind many EVE players. A great number of people would love to spend effort moving up behind a sniper completely undetected and kill that player before they have any idea let alone have any potential to respond.
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F U R
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:42:00 -
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Next time I see your name in my sniper sights I won't fire at you, happy? |
I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
51
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:44:00 -
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Villanor Aquarius wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote: Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.
You clearly don't understand the motivation behind many EVE players. A great number of people would love to spend effort moving up behind a sniper completely undetected and kill that player before they have any idea let alone have any potential to respond.
Oh EVE players. I forgot. This game is designed for EVE players.
This game is trash. Goodbye forever. |
Tyrius Madison
97
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:45:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Villanor Aquarius wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote: Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.
You clearly don't understand the motivation behind many EVE players. A great number of people would love to spend effort moving up behind a sniper completely undetected and kill that player before they have any idea let alone have any potential to respond. Oh EVE players. I forgot. This game is designed for EVE players. This game is trash. Goodbye forever.
See ya Mr. Throw-A-Temper-Tantrum-Cause-A-Sniper-hit-you! *thumbs up* |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:45:00 -
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Nicol Bolas Planeswalker wrote:To circumvent this obviously game breaking problem CCP should introduce armoured dragons. I think we'll call them "Tanks". |
Real Bones
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:46:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Villanor Aquarius wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote: Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.
You clearly don't understand the motivation behind many EVE players. A great number of people would love to spend effort moving up behind a sniper completely undetected and kill that player before they have any idea let alone have any potential to respond. Oh EVE players. I forgot. This game is designed for EVE players. This game is trash. Goodbye forever.
Goodbye. Hope this wasn't intended to make anyone sad. Not hurting us that you are leaving, especially not with the attitude you have lol. |
F U R
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:48:00 -
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Bet he's off to make a sniper character :) |
Real Bones
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:49:00 -
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F U R wrote:Bet he's off to make a sniper character :)
^ lol |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:50:00 -
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lol @ this thread. most snipers are useless the good ones are a problem but isnt that what u hav counter-snipers for?
thats the same as ppl complaining about tanks when they running around with all infantry focus fits and no tanks of their own as well.
PS: unglitched tactical AR > most snipers |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:52:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Tyrius Madison wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Real Bones wrote:Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together. Would you rather keep that minor nuisance following you around like a fly that won't leave you alone...or would you rather have this nuisance removed completely? I'd rather keep it. If you remove snipers, then you may as well remove everything except Assault Suits and the AR and call it a day. of all the things wrong with Dust 514, you being personally mad at snipers is not even on the list. I know many people who share my same feelings on almost every issue I present on these forums. The thing is most of them gave up on this game a long time ago. I'm sure you know all 20 of the people who agree with you. If you think snipers are overpowered, then grab a sniper fit and try it out. Any time you think something is overpowered you should try it out. That's what a beta is for. I've seen an increase in the number of LAVs that are being used for movement on the open maps. Part of the reason is because a moving LAV protects the passengers from snipers & anti-infantry fire.
When you're playing rock paper scissors & the other guy keeps throwing rock, throw ****ing paper sometimes instead of asking to get rock nerfed. |
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Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
103
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:53:00 -
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Get a visual on them hiding in the mountains and then hit them with an orbital strike. Ta-da. |
F U R
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:54:00 -
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^ rock nerfed lol |
Tyrius Madison
97
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:55:00 -
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F U R wrote:Bet he's off to make a sniper character :)
ha nice.
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Vadre Zekariah
Zoobog Enterprises
37
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Posted - 2012.10.08 01:09:00 -
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While I don't agree that the sniping game ruins it for everyone, currently there are too many wannabe snipers in the hills.
It's always a bit of fun shooting from the mountains and pissing off those trying to cap objectives, but if you notice that your team has more than two guys shooting away from up there then perhaps look at going with a different fit out. 6 snipers on the one team is not needed and is really going to lose the game for your team.
The only scenario I can see that would require more than 2 snipers is spawn camping, and then if the enemy team aren't smart enough to be spawning vehicles at that point that would make the snipers redundant, then too bad for them. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.08 01:15:00 -
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Vadre Zekariah wrote:While I don't agree that the sniping game ruins it for everyone, currently there are too many wannabe snipers in the hills.
It's always a bit of fun shooting from the mountains and pissing off those trying to cap objectives, but if you notice that your team has more than two guys shooting away from up there then perhaps look at going with a different fit out. 6 snipers on the one team is not needed and is really going to lose the game for your team.
The only scenario I can see that would require more than 2 snipers is spawn camping, and then if the enemy team aren't smart enough to be spawning vehicles at that point that would make the snipers redundant, then too bad for them.
I've seen sniper teams in ambush really mop up, but you're completely right about skirmish. Too many snipers make it impossible to hold objectives unless they're the kind of sniper who moves in with their backup weapon to help take the objective then picks off other snipers from where they are. |
Ghost Commando
Doomheim
1
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Posted - 2012.10.08 02:38:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.
The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either.
Ok, I see. So what your saying is that CCP should give a pistol the same range and damage as a sniper rifle so you feel empowered due to your own inability to find cover or something to stay out of a snipers bullet path. Hey might as well make the bullet be a smart one so it can curve around walls and go through objects too. Just fire in a random direction and you get a kill right? Or be able to use your knova knife to stick him from across the map too. Oh, oh. Or mabey be more like the matrix and be like neo and stop the bullet or mabey see the bullet effect where the bullet came from so you don't have to pay attention to your surroundings. And I highly disagree with "there is no cover or something to hide behind" BS. If you use your eyes and head, you will see that there is something to hide behind or get out of plane sight as to where your not easy pickings for us snipers. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.08 02:45:00 -
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Ghost Commando wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.
The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either. Ok, I see. So what your saying is that CCP should give a pistol the same range and damage as a sniper rifle so you feel empowered due to your own inability to find cover or something to stay out of a snipers bullet path. Hey might as well make the bullet be a smart one so it can curve around walls and go through objects too. Just fire in a random direction and you get a kill right? Or be able to use your knova knife to stick him from across the map too. Oh, oh. Or mabey be more like the matrix and be like neo and stop the bullet or mabey see the bullet effect where the bullet came from so you don't have to pay attention to your surroundings. And I highly disagree with "there is no cover or something to hide behind" BS. If you use your eyes and head, you will see that there is something to hide behind or get out of plane sight as to where your not easy pickings for us snipers. He just realized that there are EVE players with the New Eden mentality in this thread. I don't know if he's coming back.
It sounds kind of like he wants bullet prediction lines like the ones used in made up Gun Gale Online (from the Sword Art Online universe). Which would be kind of awesome because we could hold back an enemy without firing any bullets at them just by pointing the weapon in their general direction. That said, even in that system a sniper wouldn't have a bullet prediction line for the first shot & people would complain about that. |
Tyrius Madison
97
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Posted - 2012.10.08 02:57:00 -
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What exactly is the "New Eden" mentality? |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:10:00 -
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Tyrius Madison wrote:What exactly is the "New Eden" mentality?
- Adapt or die.
- Trust no one (even if you trust them).
- If it sounds too good to be true, they're probably scamming you.
- If it sounds just about right, double check to make sure they aren't scamming you.
- If someone scams you it's your own fault for letting them scam you.
- Please don't feed the griefers, they know where to find tears on their own.
Think capitalism brought nearly to the brink of anarchy. We make & enforce our own rules in our sandbox and we band together for the good of ourselves, not for the good of others, unless we feel like banding together for the good of others. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:11:00 -
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Jeez, I can't believe we are having this discussion. Is not it painfully obvious that AR is overpowered and other weapons including SR are squeezed to the absolute margin of gameplay? Overall, there are fairly few snipers in the game, close to none good ones. Sniping is challenging in this game as far as aiming and landing shots, virtually no SR is powerful enough to one shot an average assault suit. And all the while snipers are constantly exposed to sniper hunters - there are always ppl running around the edge of a map just to pick off a few odd snipers. Not to mention that at medium-long range AR beats the pants off a SR. With so many sniping handicaps people are still complaining about snipers - simply WOW.
I got an idea, lets remove all non - AR weapons from the game to make it fun and diverse. Maybe leave a few guys with Heavy suits and HMG - just for target shooting practice. |
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:21:00 -
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if i get killed by a sniper i simply get my LAV and roll them over. Most of them cant shot a moving enemy. Most of them are staying scoped in and dont pay attention whats happening. Try to sneak up from behind and place a remote explosive under their butt. |
Tebil Gurn
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
40
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:27:00 -
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I almost never have any problems with snipers. Usually their shots go whizzing by as I dodge and weave or run between cover. I get killed by snipers maybe once every 2-3 games, and honestly every time it's because the sniper was good. I'd rather all the bad players on the other team go sniper and try to kill me and my squad mates because that means less meaningful players to keep us from taking objectives. If you're not a good player, sniping is not the way to go - you're way more useful as another target on the field to soak up bullets so the better players on your team can get the job done. Just make sure you learn while doing that so you can become one of those better players. :) |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:37:00 -
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They wouldn't be a problem if we could move again. |
Tyrius Madison
97
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:41:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:if i get killed by a sniper i simply get my LAV and roll them over. Most of them cant shot a moving enemy. Most of them are staying scoped in and dont pay attention whats happening. Try to sneak up from behind and place a remote explosive under their butt.
Boomers - preferred method of killing for any respectable Planetside Infiltrator. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:50:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Don't run in the open field. The problem is that several maps are practically all open field.
And for people saying "Sprint to cover, idiots." I went sniper a few rounds earlier today and found it stupidly easy to place shots. Just put the crosshair where someone's running and wait until they cross your view. Bam. |
Default Hero
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:12:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Villanor Aquarius wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote: Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.
You clearly don't understand the motivation behind many EVE players. A great number of people would love to spend effort moving up behind a sniper completely undetected and kill that player before they have any idea let alone have any potential to respond. Oh EVE players. I forgot. This game is designed for EVE players. This game is trash. Goodbye forever.
Goodbye, with an attitude like yours you will not be missed. There is no reason for your original post nor any subsequent flame posts when the community does not back you up. If you do decide to come back and play nice you would do better to humble yourself. You are participating in a BETA of a FREE game. You are not entitled to anything except what the devs decide you can have. If you are not posting with the intention of making this game better for the whole community then do not bother with your suggestions. There is a very close knit group of people coming from eve into Dust and you would do well to recognise that. In addidtion all of eve will be able tp fly over your puny little skirmish and bomb you from above. Not only that, when you go to the forums to complain and call for nerfs they will personally come post and laugh at you. Eve and Dust are part of the same universe and must be treated as such. Go try to alienate a different community because you will find that eve players have your back more often than those of the fps mindset. Everyone calls this game an fps but they forget that it is also an mmo. Imb4 long post. In summary Adapt or Die. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:18:00 -
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This game was much better back in april. Snipers actually had to be skilled. Now they can just safely camp far off into a mountain. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:25:00 -
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Maps are to big and gameplay promotes camping. I remember a few builds ago I was actually getting sniped at meduim range. Now almost every sniper sits in the red zone or off in the mountains. |
Real Bones
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:25:00 -
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Oh dear god jump not you too.... C'mon man seriously? Why are you jumping on the nerf sniper bandwagon now?? Their aren't really many good snipers in the game that I have seen. Why oh why are you whining about them now?? Moejoe I somewhat understood b/c as far as I knew he was only good at MAG. You on the other hand have a great track record at pretty much any FPS... Yet here we are. Smh I expected more from you bro. |
Real Bones
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:28:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Maps are to big and gameplay promotes camping. I remember a few builds ago I was actually getting sniped at meduim range. Now almost every sniper sits in the red zone or off in the mountains.
And by definition snipers are LONG range recon.... Why are people complaining when snipers are staying at long range... and before anyone says "Oh he's just a sniper trying to defend himself" I'm not. Ask anyone who knows me. This is Bones1008 and I simply don't snipe I go close quarters all the time. But I am seriously getting tired of everyone whining about snipers doing what they are meant to do. Dear lord ppl.
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