Oh dear god jump not you too.... C'mon man seriously? Why are you jumping on the nerf sniper bandwagon now?? Their aren't really many good snipers in the game that I have seen. Why oh why are you whining about them now?? Moejoe I somewhat understood b/c as far as I knew he was only good at MAG. You on the other hand have a great track record at pretty much any FPS... Yet here we are. Smh I expected more from you bro.

You have obviously never seen moejoes MW3 gameplay. He has a moab montage lol.

Maps are to big and gameplay promotes camping. I remember a few builds ago I was actually getting sniped at meduim range. Now almost every sniper sits in the red zone or off in the mountains.

If snipers had a reduced range, and we could easily see where they are shooting at us from, they wouldn't be so bad.

Oh dear god jump not you too.... C'mon man seriously? Why are you jumping on the nerf sniper bandwagon now?? Their aren't really many good snipers in the game that I have seen. Why oh why are you whining about them now?? Moejoe I somewhat understood b/c as far as I knew he was only good at MAG. You on the other hand have a great track record at pretty much any FPS... Yet here we are. Smh I expected more from you bro.

I'm not whinning about snipers i'm referring to the devolution of this game. Back in march during the early phase of this beta matches consisted of 1-3 snipers at a maximum. Snipers traveled with the team and acted as support for other infantry players. DUST could have been the first game to get sniping correctly besides the later days of MAG with tier 1 snipers in CB's.

However though, As this game continued to devolve build after build into the slow unresponsive campfest that it is now snipers can just sit far off above a mountain or behind a redline completely safe and lone wolf and play for personal stats rather than helping the team achieve victory.

This game is all about head glitching now. Gameplay is slow and caters to players that like to camp.

Seriously. Snipers in COD are even less annoying then Dust's snipers. We're playing on a barren wasteland with next to no cover and using weapons that are completely useless past minimum range so that we can't actually fire back at these people.

Seriously. Snipers in COD are even less annoying then Dust's snipers. We're playing on a barren wasteland with next to no cover and using weapons that are completely useless past minimum range so that we can't actually fire back at these people.

Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers.

Lol no, snipers in CoD are the most annoying in the whole gaming industry. And as for dust snipers i only wish more people would snipe, easy kills =)

Seriously. Snipers in COD are even less annoying then Dust's snipers. We're playing on a barren wasteland with next to no cover and using weapons that are completely useless past minimum range so that we can't actually fire back at these people.

I'm not whinning about snipers i'm referring to the devolution of this game. Back in march during the early phase of this beta matches consisted of 1-3 snipers at a maximum. Snipers traveled with the team and acted as support for other infantry players. DUST could have been the first game to get sniping correctly besides the later days of MAG with tier 1 snipers in CB's.

However though, As this game continued to devolve build after build into the slow unresponsive campfest that it is now snipers can just sit far off above a mountain or behind a redline completely safe and lone wolf and play for personal stats rather than helping the team achieve victory.

This game is all about head glitching now. Gameplay is slow and caters to players that like to camp.

Umm no since back then everyone had disco shoes and it took several AR clips to kill folks.

Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.

The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either.

I wasn't in the beta in march, what changed?

I'm not whinning about snipers i'm referring to the devolution of this game. Back in march during the early phase of this beta matches consisted of 1-3 snipers at a maximum. Snipers traveled with the team and acted as support for other infantry players. DUST could have been the first game to get sniping correctly besides the later days of MAG with tier 1 snipers in CB's.

However though, As this game continued to devolve build after build into the slow unresponsive campfest that it is now snipers can just sit far off above a mountain or behind a redline completely safe and lone wolf and play for personal stats rather than helping the team achieve victory.

This game is all about head glitching now. Gameplay is slow and caters to players that like to camp.

I'm not whinning about snipers i'm referring to the devolution of this game. Back in march during the early phase of this beta matches consisted of 1-3 snipers at a maximum. Snipers traveled with the team and acted as support for other infantry players. DUST could have been the first game to get sniping correctly besides the later days of MAG with tier 1 snipers in CB's.

However though, As this game continued to devolve build after build into the slow unresponsive campfest that it is now snipers can just sit far off above a mountain or behind a redline completely safe and lone wolf and play for personal stats rather than helping the team achieve victory.

This game is all about head glitching now. Gameplay is slow and caters to players that like to camp.

I've seen sniper teams in ambush really mop up, but you're completely right about skirmish. Too many snipers make it impossible to hold objectives unless they're the kind of sniper who moves in with their backup weapon to help take the objective then picks off other snipers from where they are.

What part of these maps AREN'T open field?

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I cant stand the sniping infestation sometimes...

not because I get killed, I dont get killed often by them, maybe 1 time per match on the more open maps. the reason is that so many welps are doing it and ruining the match. isnt it great when you rush an objective just to realize that most of your teammates are scattered around the map, camping on some hills and doing NOTHING...

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