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I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:00:00 -
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Seriously. Snipers in COD are even less annoying then Dust's snipers. We're playing on a barren wasteland with next to no cover and using weapons that are completely useless past medium range so that we can't actually fire back at these people. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:01:00 -
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Don't run in the open field. |
Richard Blackburn
Blackburn Odyssey
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:02:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Don't run in the open field. Exactly |
I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:03:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Don't run in the open field.
What part of these maps AREN'T open field? |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:03:00 -
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Improvise, adapt, overcome Space Marine! |
Ironic Kitten
Mecha Trained Assault Cats
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:03:00 -
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Ironic Kitten's Driving School, coming soonGäó |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:04:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Don't run in the open field.
This. |
I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:04:00 -
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lmao 90% of every map is barren wasteland. You people can't be serious. |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:05:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Don't run in the open field. What part of these maps AREN'T open field?
the parts with things that you can hide behind.
Hills count for this too.
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Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:06:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:lmao 90% of every map is barren wasteland. You people can't be serious.
you aren't paying attention.
Snipers do their job, nothing more, nothing less. |
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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:06:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:lmao 90% of every map is barren wasteland. You people can't be serious.
Find out where your being shot from and adjust accordingly like every other fps there is. Jesus snipers are pretty useless in DUST unless the sniper knows what hes doing(not many in beta currently but a few). |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:06:00 -
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Tyrius Madison wrote:TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Don't run in the open field. This. Also this.
Ironic Kitten wrote:Ironic Kitten's Driving School, coming soonGäó
I've seen you driving around the ambush maps with a scout stuck in your wheel well. It made me lol. |
I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:07:00 -
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Dust 514:
http://aphs.worldnomads.com/shrummer16/12177/P1050184.jpg
Oh so you mean I should hide behind those hills! Way out over there! |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:12:00 -
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did you know that you can run from one source of cover to another?
why, if you did that, you could make your way to the buildings and structures that are littered all over the map!
who woulda thunk it?
hey here's another cool thing that you may not have known...you know those buildings and tall structures that are all over the place, near and around the objectives? they stop bullets!
yeah I know, shocking huh? |
I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:21:00 -
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Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.
The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either. |
Real Bones
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:24:00 -
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Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require a post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:27:00 -
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inb4nerfthesnipers |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:28:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.
The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either.
the counter to a sniper is a Infiltrator/Assassin. which does not exist yet because there is no cloaking.
wait till we get cloaking.
Snipers will die. Nova Knife in the back. painfully.
and no, weapons do not need a range increase. then we'd all be snipers.
Snipers are fine as they are, and this is coming from someone who doesn't snipe. |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:30:00 -
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Real Bones wrote:Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together.
the bolded stuff.
if a Sniper headshots me while I am sprinting to an objective, I won't do anything but give him his props.
and then go hunt him down. |
Richard Blackburn
Blackburn Odyssey
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:30:00 -
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Obama DAT wrote:Improvise, adapt, overcome Space Marine! Herectics everywhere,FOR THE EMPEROR |
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I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:30:00 -
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Real Bones wrote:Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together.
Would you rather keep that minor nuisance following you around like a fly that won't leave you alone...or would you rather have this nuisance removed completely? |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:32:00 -
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A good sniper is far from a nuisance. The problem is that there are not very many good snipers yet.
Long range suppression is not to be underestimated, in the course of winning a match.
A good team of snipers can keep an opposing squad running and ducking in disarray, while the Assault guys mop them up. |
Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:32:00 -
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To circumvent this obviously game breaking problem CCP should introduce armoured dragons. |
I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:33:00 -
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Tyrius Madison wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.
The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either. the counter to a sniper is a Infiltrator/Assassin. which does not exist yet because there is no cloaking. wait till we get cloaking. Snipers will die. Nova Knife in the back. painfully. and no, weapons do not need a range increase. then we'd all be snipers. Snipers are fine as they are, and this is coming from someone who doesn't snipe.
Yep. Your magical ninjas will sure love to be spending their time running a kilometer across desert just to knife a lone camper in the hills in the back. They will definitely be the ultimate counter to snipers. |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:34:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Real Bones wrote:Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together. Would you rather keep that minor nuisance following you around like a fly that won't leave you alone...or would you rather have this nuisance removed completely?
I'd rather keep it.
If you remove snipers, then you may as well remove everything except Assault Suits and the AR and call it a day.
of all the things wrong with Dust 514, you being personally mad at snipers is not even on the list. |
Villanor Aquarius
Shattered Ascension
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:34:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Anyways the main issue here is that there is no way to counter a sniper unless you want to waste manpower by having your own snipers (face it, in the grand scheme of things having players hide in the hills in the back of the map picking off a random player every minute or so instead of getting in the action and helping capture objectives is and always will be detrimental to your ability to win). All weapons need a significant range increase and there should bullet indicators that tell you from which direction you're being shot at from even if you're not getting hit.
The fact that we're playing on barren deserts does not help either.
I love how you say they are detrimental but let's see for a second, you are on here because they frustrate you and prevent you from getting into the action and capturing objectives. Clearly snipers can be useful at preventing players from reaching the action and thus the sniper helps his team by making sure the opponents can't partake in the action.
So I dunno I'd say it's really not worth wasting manpower on negating the opponents ability to deny my access to objectives or to prevent their players from reaching objectives.
Enjoy the game I'm sure you'll wield your understanding of tactics to gain a competitive advantage. |
I'm Not Moejoe
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:35:00 -
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Tyrius Madison wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Real Bones wrote:Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together. Would you rather keep that minor nuisance following you around like a fly that won't leave you alone...or would you rather have this nuisance removed completely? I'd rather keep it. If you remove snipers, then you may as well remove everything except Assault Suits and the AR and call it a day. of all the things wrong with Dust 514, you being personally mad at snipers is not even on the list.
I know many people who share my same feelings on almost every issue I present on these forums. The thing is most of them gave up on this game a long time ago. |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:36:00 -
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man, what a ridiculous thread this is. |
Real Bones
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:36:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Real Bones wrote:Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together. Would you rather keep that minor nuisance following you around like a fly that won't leave you alone...or would you rather have this nuisance removed completely?
I would rather the game be played as it was intended to be played. Not have people crying over something so trivial and have the game messed up b/c devs listen to it (ie MAG). Seriously I really hope you are not Moejoe. Because back in the day at least Moejoe had enough skill to not have to come on forums crying b/c snipers are killing him too much and trying to get them removed. Dear lord. Simple fact of the matter is in real warfare snipers are used as part of tactics. And when done right can be an effective tactic. But seriously coming on the forums and complaining saying they need to be removed??? Wow. Just sad. Even sadder that I am the one saying that to you as I am far from the best player out there right now. |
Tyrius Madison
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Posted - 2012.10.08 00:37:00 -
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I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Tyrius Madison wrote:I'm Not Moejoe wrote:Real Bones wrote:Tbh most snipers I've played with are just a minor nuisance at best.... Very few have the skill (that I've seen anyway) to require I post being made saying they will kill the game.... It's called be aware of your surroundings and adjust accordingly. If you sit still of course you are gonna catch a bullet. Stay on the move and stay aware of your surroundings. Most snipers I've encountered don't hit very well when you are on the move. So if you notice you are taking fire from somewhere let your team know and try to eliminate the threat, whether alone or with teammates. And honestly most of the time the snipers I've seen are just like annoying flies not really making much of a difference so no need to sweat them. Seriously if you are having that much of a problem may be time to rethink your choice of games or genre all together. Would you rather keep that minor nuisance following you around like a fly that won't leave you alone...or would you rather have this nuisance removed completely? I'd rather keep it. If you remove snipers, then you may as well remove everything except Assault Suits and the AR and call it a day. of all the things wrong with Dust 514, you being personally mad at snipers is not even on the list. I know many people who share my same feelings on almost every issue I present on these forums. The thing is most of them gave up on this game a long time ago.
thats very nice. everyone has 937439057389563895738756395 personal friends who share the exact same viewpoint as whatever it is they say on the forums. they just so happened to not be here agreeing with them for *insert reason*.
I'm sure that when they remove everything that can possibly kill you except the suit and weapon that you personally use, then all your hundreds and thousands of like-minded friends will come back.
IF Sniping is even a problem at all, and it isn't, it'd be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the list of things that need fixing. |
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