To add insult to injury they ruined the SMG by switching the skill DMG bonus for the kick back bonus. I use to love using the SMG as my main weapon, but now I have to use this damn AR.

There shouldn't be *any* way to dodge gunshots. They're freaking gunshots.

Still a little more strafing speed would be nice. Now the winner of a 1v1 is based purely on positioning and whoever pulls the trigger first.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Shooting first and having the better position is what FPS is supposed to be about. Why are you complaining?

There shouldn't be *any* way to dodge gunshots. They're freaking gunshots.

I just don't like the helplessness of moving like a bloated turtle so anyone can keep there gun on you while they shoot, no skill required. Scout suit is useless and if your getting shot in the back, thanks to no turning speed, you have next to no chance surviving.

its a video game
an unrealistic video
in an unrealistic game video
chill Sergeant Realism not everything has to be "real"

I would say that "moving like a bloated turtle" is somewhat of an overstatement. Besides, like I said before, if you have a better position and shoot first, you should die, especially if your opponent moves as slowly as you say. And if you're stuck in a bad situation, then you can treat your inevitable death as a learning experience, because now you know not to do whatever it was you just did which got you killed. As for getting shot in the back, I would say the best way to avoid that is to check the minimap regularly and to travel with a squad.

Besides, most snipers use the Scout suit, if I'm not mistaken. And I saw quite a few running around with shotguns yesterday. So your point about them being useless really doesn't make sense.

Yes I have seen those scout suits as well and they are killed almost effortlessly. And now in this game player skill is not rewarded, now its blob warfare and OBs. It takes no skill what so ever to target someone and lay on a stream of damage so now the only solution seems to be playing peek-a-boo from behind cover.

DUST 514, were players expect other players to stand still and not move while getting shot. Enlist today bruh.

Apparently some folks didn't get the memo that strafing and jumping are dead and you aren't allowed to do them anymore.

I think it is fairly obvious, based on how most players react to getting shot at, that a lot of players expected this game to be more like Halo than it actually is.

kinda funny watching people in Assault suits immediately start jumping like Kriss Kross as soon as the first bullet hits them.

Who said I was talking about realism? I'm saying that if you happen upon an enemy, you should be able to shoot at him without having to compensate for his ability to move faster than a rabbit on caffeine. I mean really, these are clones in heavy armor, I don't think they should be able to to moonwalk and jump around their opponents willy nilly. Is it too much to ask for a shooter based on your ability to find a good firing spot? Or do we all need a special "get out of danger" button because we don't like dying?

I never really understood the argument for the inclusion of bunny-hopping and high strafe speeds anyways.

There shouldn't be *any* way to dodge gunshots. They're freaking gunshots.

There's a difference between moving to avoid getting shot and running circles around your opponent. I'm all for sprinting to cover or adjusting my position for a better shot.

EDIT: Still, an enemy standing still while I shoot them does sound nice. Feel free to try it

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Shooting first and having the better position is what FPS is supposed to be about. Why are you complaining?

I'm really having trouble following your logic here.

First you say scout suits get killed easily. But if they get killed so easily, people wouldn't use them. And yet, we've both said we've seen people using them. Why would people continue using something you say is worthless?

I'm also not understanding how there's no skill involved in this game. Isn't aiming well and quickly a skill? What about knowing which fights to jump into and which to run away from? How to attack an objective? Just because the skillsets may differ doesn't mean there's no skill involved. And FYI, what you call blob warfare I call team-based combat ;)

EDIT: I'd also like to repeat myself in saying that I'm having trouble understanding exactly *why* it is you're complaining. FPS is based on advantageous positioning and skill with aiming and firing a variety of weapons, not "who-can-dodge-the-most-incoming-fire."

There was a difference to moving to avoid getting shot. That was nerfed though because players lacked gun game and had to ask the Devs to a hold their hands. Silly willy.

There was a difference to moving to avoid getting shot. That was nerfed though because players lacked gun game and had to ask the Devs to a hold their hands. Silly willy.