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Sleepy Zan
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Posted - 2012.10.06 20:35:00 -
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not going to lie I miss my scouts strafing and turning speed
RIP scout suit |
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Posted - 2012.10.06 20:40:00 -
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Matobar wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:To add insult to injury they ruined the SMG by switching the skill DMG bonus for the kick back bonus. I use to love using the SMG as my main weapon, but now I have to use this damn AR. There shouldn't be *any* way to dodge gunshots. They're freaking gunshots.
Still a little more strafing speed would be nice. Now the winner of a 1v1 is based purely on positioning and whoever pulls the trigger first. |
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Posted - 2012.10.06 20:46:00 -
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Matobar wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Matobar wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:To add insult to injury they ruined the SMG by switching the skill DMG bonus for the kick back bonus. I use to love using the SMG as my main weapon, but now I have to use this damn AR. There shouldn't be *any* way to dodge gunshots. They're freaking gunshots. Still a little more strafing speed would be nice. Now the winner of a 1v1 is based purely on positioning and whoever pulls the trigger first. I don't understand what you're trying to say. Shooting first and having the better position is what FPS is supposed to be about. Why are you complaining?
I just don't like the helplessness of moving like a bloated turtle so anyone can keep there gun on you while they shoot, no skill required. Scout suit is useless and if your getting shot in the back, thanks to no turning speed, you have next to no chance surviving. |
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Posted - 2012.10.06 21:00:00 -
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Matobar wrote:I would say that "moving like a bloated turtle" is somewhat of an overstatement. Besides, like I said before, if you have a better position and shoot first, you should die, especially if your opponent moves as slowly as you say. And if you're stuck in a bad situation, then you can treat your inevitable death as a learning experience, because now you know not to do whatever it was you just did which got you killed. As for getting shot in the back, I would say the best way to avoid that is to check the minimap regularly and to travel with a squad.
Besides, most snipers use the Scout suit, if I'm not mistaken. And I saw quite a few running around with shotguns yesterday. So your point about them being useless really doesn't make sense.
Yes I have seen those scout suits as well and they are killed almost effortlessly. And now in this game player skill is not rewarded, now its blob warfare and OBs. It takes no skill what so ever to target someone and lay on a stream of damage so now the only solution seems to be playing peek-a-boo from behind cover. |
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Posted - 2012.10.06 21:17:00 -
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Matobar wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Matobar wrote:I would say that "moving like a bloated turtle" is somewhat of an overstatement. Besides, like I said before, if you have a better position and shoot first, you should die, especially if your opponent moves as slowly as you say. And if you're stuck in a bad situation, then you can treat your inevitable death as a learning experience, because now you know not to do whatever it was you just did which got you killed. As for getting shot in the back, I would say the best way to avoid that is to check the minimap regularly and to travel with a squad.
Besides, most snipers use the Scout suit, if I'm not mistaken. And I saw quite a few running around with shotguns yesterday. So your point about them being useless really doesn't make sense. Yes I have seen those scout suits as well and they are killed almost effortlessly. And now in this game player skill is not rewarded, now its blob warfare and OBs. It takes no skill what so ever to target someone and lay on a stream of damage so now the only solution seems to be playing peek-a-boo from behind cover. I'm really having trouble following your logic here. First you say scout suits get killed easily. But if they get killed so easily, people wouldn't use them. And yet, we've both said we've seen people using them. Why would people continue using something you say is worthless? I'm also not understanding how there's no skill involved in this game. Isn't aiming well and quickly a skill? What about knowing which fights to jump into and which to run away from? How to attack an objective? Just because the skillsets may differ doesn't mean there's no skill involved. And FYI, what you call blob warfare I call team-based combat ;) EDIT: I'd also like to repeat myself in saying that I'm having trouble understanding exactly *why* it is you're complaining. FPS is based on advantageous positioning and skill with aiming and firing a variety of weapons, not "who-can-dodge-the-most-incoming-fire."
A couple of reasons for the scout suit 1 being the dragonfly suit is absolutely free and 2 it takes time for people to learn. Why did people try to use swarms as anti infantry last build? have you been killed by these scout suits coming at you with shot guns? And I can tell you there is no problem counter sniping the ones with snipers.
Also I am all for teamwork and it does take some know-how to move through the battle field, figuring out what to engage and what to avoid, and some strategy when taking objectives. Only problem I have is that the individual is crippled, yes there does take some skill to target opponents in this build, but thanks to the limitations imposed on you from movement speed there is a bar and as soon as you pass that skill bar your good to go. |
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