I would rather see skiing from tribes. And I don't care of it's "op" it's awesome cool. Jet packs well, yeah they're ok :P

Just watched some PlanetSide 2 gameplay (other large scale team-based MMO FPS), and I'm jealous that they get jetpacks.

No planetside sussitution

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Just watched some PlanetSide 2 gameplay (other large scale team-based MMO FPS), and I'm jealous that they get jetpacks.

No, hell no. You want jetpacks go play Halo.

No, hell no. You want jetpacks go play Halo.

Replaces dropships more than you know

Starhawk is another recent game that pulled off jet packs rather well, I'd say they could work here if they were managed right but being as crippled as OP is suggesting just wouldn't be fun at all,

im surprised in the original post weight didn't become a factor, ie the lighter the suit type the longer you can stay in the air (im only talking maybe an extra 10 second of flight) with all the balnce fixs that have been brought up i think its a perfect idea assuming weight becomes a factor in this.

Cheaper

Smaller

Self reliable

That's all people need to use them over dropships

Dropships are intended to carry multiple people, and drop those people off. A jetpack is a 1 person vehicle, so it could never replace the main function of a dropship.
To get from point A to point B, people would most likely be a passenger on a free dropship ride instead of paying for their own means of transportation.

The only thing similar about these vehicles would be that they are aerial.
That is like saying no one would skill into HAV's because LAV's are cheaper.

Actually, either way you get very little sp and isk and the hav lav comparison is way of topic

I think its analogous.
LAV's and HAV's serve different roles, but they are both are similar transportation methods (ground).
Jetpacks and dropships serve different roles, but they are both similar transportation methods(aerial).
From what I understand, your point was that because 2 vehicles are similar transportation methods, the cheaper one will render the more expensive one obsolete. I offered HAV and LAV as a counterexample because these two vehicles are similar transportation methods.

About the SP, I think all vehicles that carry 2 or more mercs should give the driver SP over time for keeping the vehicle from getting destroyed, and also get points for teammates spawning on the vehicle's CRU. This would really incentivize use of vehicles, and make sure there would be incentive to pilot group (like dropships) vehicles over solo vehicles (like jetpacks).

The difference between the hav and lav is that the hav is actually meant for battle and can withstand a significant amount of damage while still in the driver seat

Your method of sp gain leads to half the team in a dropship to boost sp off of for the driver

I'd let this happen just to watch people spat themselves across lavs & buildings...

But what I would like to see would be the implementation of a dropsuit based afterburner instead of a "jetpack".

Unidirectional, set number of charges for burns (activating the inertial dampener would also use one of the charges), takes up the grenade slot, adds enough of a signature radius onto a drop suit that a swarm launcher or an AV grenade could lock onto it while it's active in addition to the cpu & powergrid requirements. Would enable you to burn charges and do things not normally possible, like run up the side of buildings, longjump, double jump, aim & shoot while using your inertial dampener on a drop, etc..

just give a chainsword and a jetpack to the heavy suit and shout: "for tha emperor!"... or empress in this case i guess...

Jetpacks wouldn't be used by logistics or "scouting" people, they'd be use to fly around and shoot explosives down on people below. And to get to the tops of buildings and fight in relative safety there. I'm really not sure I like the idea of jetpacks.



You couldn't ski on any of these maps. Terrain is to cluttered, flat, and the maps are too small. They'd have to redesign all of the maps if they wanted to make the game a Tribes clone.

but seriously instead of flying make it "jump". That would still make the dropship useful and it would be a calculated risk to use it since you re quite vulnerable looping in the sky will little control (rising, falling, bursting a bit from one side to another).

valid idea,im neutral to this.this is well thought out +1

It shouldn't be a perk limitef to.a suit and neither should cloaking. It should be a module you equip to any suit maybe there can be a suit model that has bonuses for using it but not be limited to.

Love the idea. We need a cloaking system as well, but I don't think you should be able to use both. You should have to choose one over the other.

More options and more variety in gamelpay and tactics = better game.

A cloaking system is confirmed to be coming by CCP. I agree that both should be be usable together.

A short burst jetpack would be ok, and wouldnt require lots of restrictions to balance.

Just watched some PlanetSide 2 gameplay (other large scale team-based MMO FPS), and I'm jealous that they get jetpacks.

Jealous they have 1000 people on the battlefield....but they don't offer what dust offers.

I can see jetpacks being a nuisance and exploited to no ends. You know what I would use them for? Dropping down and kiling all snipers on hills as soon as they set up. Or, dropping in enemy spawns and blowing up LAVs as soon as they spawn. Or, better yet, kill a few people in the spawn and fly out there before timer runs out. Or, just flying away whenever I see a tank.

Can you see the effect now? And I'm not big on using exploits so imagine those that are

Read Before expressing your hatred of this idea.

Jetpacks can be balanced, can be useful, and are inherently fun.

[HOW THEY SHOULD WORK]

Jetpacks should take 5 or 6 seconds to activate: this will prevent people from using them to cower out of gun battles.

Guns cannot be used while jetpack is active: This will keep them from being overpowered.

Jetpacks should have very limited climb: This will prevent people from being able to fly up high on top of towers to camp. EDIT: The climb is limited, but still high enough to get on a small building.

Jetpacks flight should be limited by regenerating power system similar to infantry stamina (maybe 15-20 seconds of continuous flight): This will prevent people from being in the air for too long.

Players with active jetpacks should be susceptible to swarm launcher lock-on and fire.

EDIT: It is to be a vehicle, not a module, or equipment.

[USEFULNESS]

Jetpacks would be very useful, especially for the logistics dropsuits. It could be used for flying past enemies to plant drop uplinks for his team to spawn, or flying to downed players to revive.

Jetpacks would be considerably useful for scouts to get on top of buildings to spot and call out enemy locations for their team, and provide covering fire.

Jetpacks would be useful for general travel on large battlefields if a player needs to travel alone in which extra seats aren't needed. Some might think lone travelers imply lack of teamwork, or lone-wolves, but travelling alone can be useful for the team if the player is acting as a distraction, or sneaking behind enemies to hunt them down (which prevents them from getting to objectives), or to call out their positions.

Jetpacks would NOT REPLACE DROPSHIPS, nor render them obsolete. Jetpacks would occupy a very different niche. Dropships would remain vital because of all the things they can do or have that jetpacks don't; dropships would have much higher climb, much more armor and shields, turrets, and slots to customize (like adding a CRU).

* Jetpacks don't have to look or even fly like anything like conventional jetpacks. It could even look like a more horizontal version of the inertia dampener animation with a different color effect or something.


EDIT:
They don't have to be as "nerfed" as I present them in the OP, but It would be good for them to start that way, then gradually balanced into just the right amount of power. Otherwise, they might start out too strong, and cause a massive uproar, then get overnerfed to uselessness.
Despite all the proposed limitations (which are totally subject to change), I still think they will be quite useful because of the boost of personal speed.
The low-flying nature of jetpacks would make them harder for swarm launcher users to spot them, so they're not all that vulnerable.

EDIT 2: Being unable to use guns, and having to wait 5+ seconds just to activate jetpacks may make it not fun, so those proposed limitations can be dropped.

EDIT 3: Though I use logistics as an example, it should not be limited for only one suit.

Ok... you may unleash your hate now.

http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attach/4/2/0/1/1/Kemp-Remillard-GI-Joe-Cobra-Jetpack_1338584250.jpg

Something similar to this would be cool.

Hey guys,

My idea for a future equipment type, the "Inertial Capacitor", would be a tacticians best friend. Essentially the exact opposite of the Inertia Dampener, the Inertial Capacitor would use similar technology to create an momentary inter-spacial disturbance that would fling its user at high speed in whatever direction it is pointed.

Essentially you would take out the device, hold down R1 until it is charged, and then when you release the button there would be a small burst of blue energy that fires to towards your reticle. This would allow snipers to find creative perches, blitzers to close the distance between them and their target, and infiltrators to leap fortress walls. This could of course be balanced by adjusting stats such as cost, range, charge time, cool-down time, resource requirements, etc. as to avoid making it overpowered.

...So? What do you think?? Feel free to add your own suggestions to this as well