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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:26:00 -
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this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:28:00 -
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There are no aliens out there because that would be wasted resources for the computer simulation we actually exist on. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:29:00 -
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so do chicken taste like chicken? |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:32:00 -
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I think there is some sort of life forms out there simply because in our Galaxy Earth had the perfect position among other planets to sustain life so it only make sense that there is other planets like Earth in other galaxies with perfect position for life to proliferate.
- Just my two cents |
IronDefender Avenged
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:32:00 -
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4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
About the bacteria thing, there is always the debate that they brought them with them. |
KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:32:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:There are no aliens out there because that would be wasted resources for the computer simulation we actually exist on.
We have a winner! |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:34:00 -
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100% believe there is "life" out there in the universe. The odds are strongly in favor of existing life, the challenge is traveling great distances. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:39:00 -
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IronDefender Avenged wrote:4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
About the bacteria thing, there is always the debate that they brought them with them.
could of ,but the spacecraft are in the most clean environments when being made. |
IronDefender Avenged
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:39:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:100% believe there is "life" out there in the universe. The odds are strongly in favor of existing life, the challenge is traveling great distances.
I would argue the odds are strongly against it, so it really matters who is counting the numbers. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:41:00 -
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IronDefender Avenged wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:100% believe there is "life" out there in the universe. The odds are strongly in favor of existing life, the challenge is traveling great distances. I would argue the odds are strongly against it, so it really matters who is counting the numbers.
you got to be kidding right? what numbers are you reading? |
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IronDefender Avenged
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:41:00 -
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4447 wrote:IronDefender Avenged wrote:4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
About the bacteria thing, there is always the debate that they brought them with them. could of ,but the spacecraft are in the most clean environments when being made.
"most" clean |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:43:00 -
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4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
I think they are real and they come vist here often today and in History. There is just way too much up that dosn't add up in History. It's either aliens or a very ancient human civilization that has not been discovered. And I'm not getting my **** from the Ancient Aliens show, I've read a ton of literature on this subject. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:47:00 -
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do anyone believe in a galaxy federation? and maybe just maybe we could be a type of planet that isn't ready to be contacted?
or do i just like sci fi to much? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:48:00 -
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IronDefender Avenged wrote:4447 wrote:IronDefender Avenged wrote:4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
About the bacteria thing, there is always the debate that they brought them with them. could of ,but the spacecraft are in the most clean environments when being made. "most" clean
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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:48:00 -
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IronDefender Avenged wrote:4447 wrote:IronDefender Avenged wrote:4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
About the bacteria thing, there is always the debate that they brought them with them. could of ,but the spacecraft are in the most clean environments when being made. "most" clean
just how i speak lol |
IronDefender Avenged
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:49:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
I think they are real and they come vist here often today and in History. There is just way too much up that dosn't add up in History. It's either aliens or a very ancient human civilization that has not been discovered. And I'm not getting my **** from the Ancient Aliens show, I've read a ton of literature on this subject.
PICZ OR IT DIDN'T HAPPENZ |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:50:00 -
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If its not a simulation sure I expect alot of life is about the real question are there any we comunicate with.
Also if the univerise is infinite then lol of course the answer is yes and yes.
I just hope in my life time they find some proof that life existed on mars all that time ago when they think it might have had liquid H2O.
Go little rover go! |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:52:00 -
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IronDefender Avenged wrote:TotalBreakage wrote:4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
I think they are real and they come vist here often today and in History. There is just way too much up that dosn't add up in History. It's either aliens or a very ancient human civilization that has not been discovered. And I'm not getting my **** from the Ancient Aliens show, I've read a ton of literature on this subject. PICZ OR IT DIDN'T HAPPENZ Fail. There is a **** ton of pics. More than you can look through in an entire day. If you are really interested you can look this up your self, but I'm not going to help you. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:55:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:If its not a simulation sure I expect alot of life is about the real question are there any we comunicate with.
Also if the univerise is infinite then lol of course the answer is yes and yes.
I just hope in my life time they find some proof that life existed on mars all that time ago when they think it might have had liquid H2O.
Go little rover go!
bacteria proof is all i need |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:55:00 -
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4447 wrote:do anyone believe in a galaxy federation? and maybe just maybe we could be a type of planet that isn't ready to be contacted?
or do i just like sci fi to much?
No we are actually black listed by the galaxy federation.
"these creatures can't even pull it together on their forums" *alien version of facepalm*
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:56:00 -
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4447 wrote:do anyone believe in a galaxy federation? and maybe just maybe we could be a type of planet that isn't ready to be contacted?
or do i just like sci fi to much? You like sci fi too much.
IronDefender Avenged wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:100% believe there is "life" out there in the universe. The odds are strongly in favor of existing life, the challenge is traveling great distances. I would argue the odds are strongly against it, so it really matters who is counting the numbers. Dwarf Galaxies have ~10 million to a couple hundred million stars Our Galaxy has ~200 billion stars Our neighboring Galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy has ~1 trillion stars The biggest Galaxy ever discovered has ~100 trillion stars Estimated 100 billion Galaxies in the observable universe When you put those numbers together, you get an estimate of 10^24 stars in the entire Universe. Or a 1 followed by 24 zeroes. ThatGÇÖs 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars
From HERE |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:58:00 -
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4447 wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:If its not a simulation sure I expect alot of life is about the real question are there any we comunicate with.
Also if the univerise is infinite then lol of course the answer is yes and yes.
I just hope in my life time they find some proof that life existed on mars all that time ago when they think it might have had liquid H2O.
Go little rover go! bacteria proof is all i need
Yep same
and @ Maximus Stryker
now the odds that a planets in the the poridge zone or wut ever its called ? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:00:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:4447 wrote:do anyone believe in a galaxy federation? and maybe just maybe we could be a type of planet that isn't ready to be contacted?
or do i just like sci fi to much? You like sci fi too much. IronDefender Avenged wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:100% believe there is "life" out there in the universe. The odds are strongly in favor of existing life, the challenge is traveling great distances. I would argue the odds are strongly against it, so it really matters who is counting the numbers. Dwarf Galaxies have ~10 million to a couple hundred million stars Our Galaxy has ~200 billion stars Our neighboring Galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy has ~1 trillion stars The biggest Galaxy ever discovered has ~100 trillion stars Estimated 100 billion Galaxies in the observable universe When you put those numbers together, you get an estimate of 10^24 stars in the entire Universe. Or a 1 followed by 24 zeroes. ThatGÇÖs 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars From HERE
To be fair, there are some who estimate that the probability of life forming randomly is less than 10^-40 or some other absurdly small number. Math cuts both ways. |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:02:00 -
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As much as I'd love for life to be present elsewhere, it also raises the chances of another alien civilisation harboring their equivalent of Kanye West, and I just don't think a loving god would do that twice. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:03:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:As much as I'd love for life to be present elsewhere, it also raises the chances of another alien civilisation harboring their equivalent of Kanye West, and I just don't think a loving god would do that twice.
Good evidence that the universe aint infinite |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:04:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:4447 wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:If its not a simulation sure I expect alot of life is about the real question are there any we comunicate with.
Also if the univerise is infinite then lol of course the answer is yes and yes.
I just hope in my life time they find some proof that life existed on mars all that time ago when they think it might have had liquid H2O.
Go little rover go! bacteria proof is all i need Yep same and @ Maximus Stryker now the odds that a planets in the the poridge zone or wut ever its called ?
I'm not good at math but THIS seems promising
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:04:00 -
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@ Noc that may be so but we know its happened once. What are the odds of life spreading ? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:05:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:4447 wrote:do anyone believe in a galaxy federation? and maybe just maybe we could be a type of planet that isn't ready to be contacted?
or do i just like sci fi to much? You like sci fi too much. IronDefender Avenged wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:100% believe there is "life" out there in the universe. The odds are strongly in favor of existing life, the challenge is traveling great distances. I would argue the odds are strongly against it, so it really matters who is counting the numbers. Dwarf Galaxies have ~10 million to a couple hundred million stars Our Galaxy has ~200 billion stars Our neighboring Galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy has ~1 trillion stars The biggest Galaxy ever discovered has ~100 trillion stars Estimated 100 billion Galaxies in the observable universe When you put those numbers together, you get an estimate of 10^24 stars in the entire Universe. Or a 1 followed by 24 zeroes. ThatGÇÖs 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars From HERE To be fair, there are some who estimate that the probability of life forming randomly is less than 10^-40 or some other absurdly small number. Math cuts both ways.
but small numbers in universe's infinite, makes these small numbers happen all the time. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:06:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:4447 wrote:do anyone believe in a galaxy federation? and maybe just maybe we could be a type of planet that isn't ready to be contacted?
or do i just like sci fi to much? You like sci fi too much. IronDefender Avenged wrote:Maximus Stryker wrote:100% believe there is "life" out there in the universe. The odds are strongly in favor of existing life, the challenge is traveling great distances. I would argue the odds are strongly against it, so it really matters who is counting the numbers. Dwarf Galaxies have ~10 million to a couple hundred million stars Our Galaxy has ~200 billion stars Our neighboring Galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy has ~1 trillion stars The biggest Galaxy ever discovered has ~100 trillion stars Estimated 100 billion Galaxies in the observable universe When you put those numbers together, you get an estimate of 10^24 stars in the entire Universe. Or a 1 followed by 24 zeroes. ThatGÇÖs 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars From HERE To be fair, there are some who estimate that the probability of life forming randomly is less than 10^-40 or some other absurdly small number. Math cuts both ways.
Agreed.
All I know is that I am made up of super nova star dust and it has happened at least once, so it could happen again.
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:08:00 -
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Yea but i just cant accept the universe could be infinite.
That means somewhere someone just like me is playing dust and in his dust tanks are balanced..... and thats not fair |
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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:09:00 -
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this makes me think about life so much more. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:10:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Yea but i just cant accept the universe could be infinite. That means somewhere someone just like me is playing dust and in his dust tanks are balanced..... and thats not fair
the term infinite is a number we haven't found yet...
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:11:00 -
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4447 wrote: but small numbers in universe's infinite, makes these small numbers happen all the time.
Universe being infinite is another taken for granted number that just might not be true. We are getting into truly fuzzy concepts now though. For the record I think there is self-aware, replicating "somethings" out there, although I am not sure they are of the same scale or composition of what is commonly assumed for "life".
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Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:12:00 -
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Alien Planet "Full Documentary" Just my thoughts |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:16:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:4447 wrote: but small numbers in universe's infinite, makes these small numbers happen all the time.
Universe being infinite is another taken for granted number that just might not be true. We are getting into truly fuzzy concepts now though. For the record I think there is self-aware, replicating "somethings" out there, although I am not sure they are of the same scale or composition of what is commonly assumed for "life".
we haven't found the number for the universe yet so we just call it infinite for now.
but it is truly a big number. |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:17:00 -
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Considering the mind boggling numbers, I highly doubt that Earth is the only planet to have the perfect conditions to sustain life. Also bear in mind that Scientists have based this on carbon life forms... What's to say that there isn't life forms that are created by alternative means.
So do I beleive that there is life beyond our Solar System? - Yes! Do I think we'll ever see them? - Highly unlikely |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:18:00 -
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4447 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:4447 wrote: but small numbers in universe's infinite, makes these small numbers happen all the time.
Universe being infinite is another taken for granted number that just might not be true. We are getting into truly fuzzy concepts now though. For the record I think there is self-aware, replicating "somethings" out there, although I am not sure they are of the same scale or composition of what is commonly assumed for "life". we haven't found the number for the universe yet so we just call it infinite for now. but it is truly a big number.
I was under the impression that the universe is expanding in every direction that it could one day stop expanding and begin to collapse again.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:19:00 -
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Zerlathon wrote:Considering the mind boggling numbers, I highly doubt that Earth is the only planet to have the perfect conditions to sustain life. Also bear in mind that Scientists have based this on carbon life forms... What's to say that there isn't life forms that are created by alternative means.
So do I beleive that there is life beyond our Solar System? - Yes! Do I think we'll ever see them? - Highly unlikely
Step 1 is immortality. Get on it scientists! |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:22:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Zerlathon wrote:Considering the mind boggling numbers, I highly doubt that Earth is the only planet to have the perfect conditions to sustain life. Also bear in mind that Scientists have based this on carbon life forms... What's to say that there isn't life forms that are created by alternative means.
So do I beleive that there is life beyond our Solar System? - Yes! Do I think we'll ever see them? - Highly unlikely Step 1 is immortality. Get on it scientists!
I'm still waiting they promised us this decades ago |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:25:00 -
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I believe that we as homo sapiens are the highest evolved form of life currently in this galaxy. If we ever came in contact with something else then I would of course change my position... But, I am of the opinion that if they ever landed on our planet we should kill them. Historically whenever a more advanced civilization came in contact with a less advanced one, bad things have happened even if there were good intentions.
So, put me in the "could be life and if it is smarter than us we should kill it" basket. |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:26:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Zerlathon wrote:Considering the mind boggling numbers, I highly doubt that Earth is the only planet to have the perfect conditions to sustain life. Also bear in mind that Scientists have based this on carbon life forms... What's to say that there isn't life forms that are created by alternative means.
So do I beleive that there is life beyond our Solar System? - Yes! Do I think we'll ever see them? - Highly unlikely Step 1 is immortality. Get on it scientists! I'm still waiting they promised us this decades ago
Well what are you doing about it? I'm getting the rocket science covered. So that leaves all the small stuff like biology, cybernetics, and artificial intelligence to you lot |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:29:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:I believe that we as homo sapiens are the highest evolved form of life currently in this galaxy. If we ever came in contact with something else then I would of course change my position... But, I am of the opinion that if they ever landed on our planet we should kill them. Historically whenever a more advanced civilization came in contact with a less advanced one, bad things have happened even if there were good intentions.
So, put me in the "could be life and if it is smarter than us we should kill it" basket.
1. if there is other life (which i do believe) we are not the most advanced
2. if you want to kill them, good luck. I wish i knew you better before every cell in your body simultaneously combusted |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:30:00 -
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can we have alien races in dust ?
like that blob creature from futurama :D imagine how his dropsuit and rifle would look |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:39:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:4447 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:4447 wrote: but small numbers in universe's infinite, makes these small numbers happen all the time.
Universe being infinite is another taken for granted number that just might not be true. We are getting into truly fuzzy concepts now though. For the record I think there is self-aware, replicating "somethings" out there, although I am not sure they are of the same scale or composition of what is commonly assumed for "life". we haven't found the number for the universe yet so we just call it infinite for now. but it is truly a big number. I was under the impression that the universe is expanding in every direction that it could one day stop expanding and begin to collapse again.
same here...
also before that happens all the lights in the sky will go out and the universe will be pitch black. |
Ire's thug
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:42:00 -
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If i was an alien life form the last people i would want to talk to is humans.. savage brutal predators with silly, backwards dogmatic beliefs. A young civilization that still wars with itself, and cant even keep its own terrestrial planet in good condition?
So sure, aliens are problably real but our system is problably under quarintine and most aliens give earth a wide burth.. hence why we've had no imperical evidence that they are real.
/endramble. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:46:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote: 1. if there is other life (which i do believe) we are not the most advanced
That isn't necessarily true... It just makes for bad sci-fi IMO.
Quote:2. if you want to kill them, good luck. I wish i knew you better before every cell in your body simultaneously combusted
The first settlers has guns but Roanoke says it didn't matter.
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Ire's thug
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:56:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote: 1. if there is other life (which i do believe) we are not the most advanced
That isn't necessarily true... It just makes for bad sci-fi IMO. Quote:2. if you want to kill them, good luck. I wish i knew you better before every cell in your body simultaneously combusted The first settlers has guns but Roanoke says it didn't matter.
Lol bad sci fi? Thats just basic logic. Interseller travel aint like slapping some solid booster fuel into a rocket.. this is interseller travel..
Roanoke?? Who?? Where are they now??? |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:59:00 -
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Ire's thug wrote:
Lol bad sci fi? Thats just basic logic. Interseller travel aint like slapping some solid booster fuel into a rocket.. this is interseller travel..
That's why there is no reason to believe we won't be the first to achieve it, in some way, in our galaxy.
Quote:Roanoke?? Who?? Where are they now???
One of the first settlements in North America from England. It was eliminated by the local indigenous. |
Ire's thug
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:19:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:One of the first settlements in North America from England. It was eliminated by the local indigenous.
Yeah... and then the rest of us came over.. look i think its great that you have such a high opinion of us. But facts and history are working against you.. the fact is if aliens suddenly appered in our solor system you.can bet your ass they are using advanced tech. cause we havent been able to do it. Ffs we JUST got to Mars! Lets just say they are hostile super preditors (which is most likley if you follow the Drake equation) you think they have mastered space flight and are going to attack us with flint-lock rifles?? Whats that saying? There is always a bigger fish? And in the near infinate universe you think WE are the biggest ones??
LOL.
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drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:20:00 -
[50] - Quote
so yea just ignore my giant blob monster idea . its not like a giant blob monster being chased by a sagaris would be funny and awesome . or maybe being able to hire a npc blob monster giant that can flip tanks and absorb people . just ignore the most awesome idea ever
muppets -_- |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:25:00 -
[51] - Quote
drake sadani wrote:so yea just ignore my giant blob monster idea . its not like a giant blob monster being chased by a sagaris would be funny and awesome . or maybe being able to hire a npc blob monster giant that can flip tanks and absorb people . just ignore the most awesome idea ever
muppets -_-
Funny? Sure. Helpful for DUST. Not so much. |
Stealth Reborn
13
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:26:00 -
[52] - Quote
If people don't believe in aliens, then they're just ignorant.
I tell them each time, "So of the billions and billions of planets out there in space, not a single one has some sort of alien lifeform? We're the 1:1,000,000,000 + planets that have "alien" life? GTFO!"
Sad, but true. |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:28:00 -
[53] - Quote
explain how a giant anti tank blob monster is not helpful
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:28:00 -
[54] - Quote
You want to know about aliens here this book has all the answers |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:41:00 -
[55] - Quote
Ziggy Stardust
I rest my case |
IronDefender Avenged
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:46:00 -
[56] - Quote
Stealth Reborn wrote:If people don't believe in aliens, then they're just ignorant. I tell them each time, "So of the billions and billions of planets out there in space, not a single one has some sort of alien lifeform? We're the 1:1,000,000,000 + planets that have "alien" life? GTFO!" Sad, but true.
Wow, you sound full of yourself. |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:52:00 -
[57] - Quote
I vote for Tyranids. More Tyranids for everybody. |
T asujke Witko
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:56:00 -
[58] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:You want to know about aliens here this book has all the answers
Do you watch televilsion on youtube? |
drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:58:00 -
[59] - Quote
a david ick book really ? . of all the places i expect to see that this was not one. david ick was led to his conclusions by a a third party . anyone who takes what he says as truth needs to become a individual . end rant.
also he has a vastly anti reptilian stance which. is funny seeing as no one even knows if they exist |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:04:00 -
[60] - Quote
Ire's thug wrote: Yeah... and then the rest of us came over.. look i think its great that you have such a high opinion of us. But facts and history are working against you.. the fact is if aliens suddenly appered in our solor system you.can bet your ass they are using advanced tech. cause we havent been able to do it. Ffs we JUST got to Mars!
Or they will just send satellites like we have up there flying around... I am for destroying it so they think it is lost or something like that.
Quote:Lets just say they are hostile super preditors (which is most likley if you follow the Drake equation) you think they have mastered space flight and are going to attack us with flint-lock rifles??
Uh no I don't think that...
Quote:Whats that saying? There is always a bigger fish? And in the near infinate universe you think WE are the biggest ones?? LOL.
I don't think that at all. I have already said that as of right now all evidence suggests we are the most advanced species in the galaxy. So until then, I believe that we are the most advanced species in the galaxy. Kind of like how since I don't see any evidence for a magical sky fairy to have created the Earth in 7 days, I don't believe it. |
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:11:00 -
[61] - Quote
@ Loss Tovas --- we can barley get off of our own planet let alone gather data efficiently about our Galaxy that is only a measly 100,000 light years across. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:16:00 -
[62] - Quote
Maximus Stryker wrote:@ Loss Tovas --- we can barley get off of our own planet let alone gather data efficiently about our Galaxy that is only a measly 100,000 light years across.
Yes, I know that... I don't see what you are getting at. |
T asujke Witko
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:18:00 -
[63] - Quote
Loss Tovas wrote:I believe that we as homo sapiens are the highest evolved form of life currently in this galaxy. If we ever came in contact with something else then I would of course change my position... But, I am of the opinion that if they ever landed on our planet we should kill them. Historically whenever a more advanced civilization came in contact with a less advanced one, bad things have happened even if there were good intentions.
So, put me in the "could be life and if it is smarter than us we should kill it" basket.
This would come from someone on the Amarr Empire.
...Imperial scum |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:20:00 -
[64] - Quote
T asujke Witko wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:You want to know about aliens here this book has all the answers Do you watch televilsion on youtube?
lol as a matter of fact I am addicted to the weird corners of youtube |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:34:00 -
[65] - Quote
T asujke Witko wrote:
This would come from someone on the Amarr Empire.
...Imperial scum
Made me LOL.
I prefer the term human exceptionalist.
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:41:00 -
[66] - Quote
To say that no life exists there, is to say that no life exists here. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:01:00 -
[67] - Quote
space travel is just like how we traversed the sea.
we started small like a boat with paddles, couldn't get that far with that. so sails came along got a bit farther and so on, in space travel we're at the boat and paddle stage. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:11:00 -
[68] - Quote
4447 wrote:space travel is just like how we traversed the sea.
we started small like a boat with paddles, couldn't get that far with that. so sails came along got a bit farther and so on, in space travel we're at the boat and paddle stage.
hmmm read any David Weber lately have we? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:13:00 -
[69] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:4447 wrote:space travel is just like how we traversed the sea.
we started small like a boat with paddles, couldn't get that far with that. so sails came along got a bit farther and so on, in space travel we're at the boat and paddle stage. hmmm read any David Weber lately have we?
don't know who he was until you posted. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:18:00 -
[70] - Quote
4447 wrote:space travel is just like how we traversed the sea.
we started small like a boat with paddles, couldn't get that far with that. so sails came along got a bit farther and so on, in space travel we're at the boat and paddle stage.
At space travel we are at cuban stage |
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Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:23:00 -
[71] - Quote
really depends on your definition of life.
bacteria under the ice on europa? entirely possible.
little green men that traveled halfway across the universe just to shine lights in our eyes? highly unlikely. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:26:00 -
[72] - Quote
Buzzwords wrote:really depends on your definition of life.
bacteria under the ice on europa? entirely possible.
little green men that traveled halfway across the universe just to shine lights in our eyes? highly unlikely.
as i said before i'm happy with bacteria because then will know theres starting blocks out. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:31:00 -
[73] - Quote
4447 wrote:Buzzwords wrote:really depends on your definition of life.
bacteria under the ice on europa? entirely possible.
little green men that traveled halfway across the universe just to shine lights in our eyes? highly unlikely. as i said before i'm happy with bacteria because then will know theres starting blocks out.
you know an alien race out there is probably having a similar discussion right now |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:34:00 -
[74] - Quote
Yes there are aliens I have proof and there name----------------------------------------------------------WOMAN.
How can some thing so desirable make your life sheer hell, and you still go back for more got to be a strange alien power to make you do this |
Hockeystars59
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:44:00 -
[75] - Quote
What are the chances that if we are the only live out there then mabey we being here could just be a fluke |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:48:00 -
[76] - Quote
There may be other life out there, but do they have Bacon? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:50:00 -
[77] - Quote
Hockeystars59 wrote:What are the chances that if we are the only live out there then mabey we being here could just be a fluke
it's possible but the odds of it are unthinkable, but because it happened it would happen again and again. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:09:00 -
[78] - Quote
Francis Drake made an equation to determine the number of possible civilizations out there. Here it is:
The Drake equation states that:
where:
N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible; and
R* = the average rate of star formation per year in our galaxy fp = the fraction of those stars that have planets ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets fGäô = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point fi = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life fc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space[5] R factor
One can question why the number of civilizations should be proportional to the star formation rate, though this makes technical sense. (The product of all the factors except L tells how many new communicating civilizations are born each year. Then you multiply by the lifetime to get the expected number. For example, if an average of 0.01 new civilizations are born each year, and they each last 500 years on the average, then on the average 5 will exist at any time.) The original Drake Equation can be extended to a more realistic model, where the equation uses not the number of stars that are forming now, but those that were forming several billion years ago. The alternate formulation, in terms of the number of stars in the galaxy, is easier to explain and understand, but implicitly assumes the star formation rate is constant over the life of the galaxy.
Alternative expression
The number of stars in the galaxy now, N*, is related to the star formation rate R* by
where Tg = the age of the galaxy. Assuming for simplicity that R* is constant, then and the Drake equation can be rewritten into an alternate form phrased in terms of the more easily observable value, N*.[6]
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Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:20:00 -
[79] - Quote
My personal view is that the universe is full of life. Advanced life capable of advanced engineering.
I think there are two reasons why we do not find advanced life quickly:
1) advanced life does not communicate using radio waves across interstellar space 2) human understanding of quantum mechanics is too immature right now to identify means of quantum field communication that can subvert the speed of light limitations that radio waves are limited by
In other words the alIens are probably chatting away but we don't know how to listen or what to listen for just yet.
I've also seen some very odd things in the sky and I believe that ET is not too far away. |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:29:00 -
[80] - Quote
I do.Whos to say God didnt make aliens.I even think that in islam god put demons on other planets(According to this guy i met whos muslim) and i think there life on mars and europa which is a ice moon. |
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CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:34:00 -
[81] - Quote
Sha Kharn Clone wrote:If its not a simulation sure I expect alot of life is about the real question are there any we comunicate with.
Also if the univerise is infinite then lol of course the answer is yes and yes.
I just hope in my life time they find some proof that life existed on mars all that time ago when they think it might have had liquid H2O.
Go little rover go! It did it even has polar ice caps |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:38:00 -
[82] - Quote
Ow didnt know that we had proved that cool |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:41:00 -
[83] - Quote
Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Ow didnt know that we had proved that cool Plus Europa has water and many other planets.Do u ever wonder if aliens make movies about aliens from earth invading them |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:42:00 -
[84] - Quote
CLONE 2774 wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Ow didnt know that we had proved that cool Plus Europa has water and many other planets.Do u ever wonder if aliens make movies about aliens from earth invading them
We would just spam tanks |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.14 10:06:00 -
[85] - Quote
they believe that H2O is the soup of life but ,i believe any pool of liquid can breed life. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.14 11:53:00 -
[86] - Quote
We deal with what we know : Carbon based-life ; Water being an absolute condition to create and sustain it.
Thus, the potential other life forms we can anticipate are based on this model. There would be no point in thinking differently. But even then, with the number of other planets that have water, odds are that there are other life forms out there. Maybe not human type or even socially developped life forms but basic one, it's a sure thing.
Now, i dont really believe in the "hey found you, will destroy you" type of scenario. If you're bright enough to travel through space without any problem, i would tend to think you reached a sufficiently high conscience to care for life, especially if not of any danger to you. Trouble of ressources being somehow insignificant compared to how large the universe is to get some.
Then, if you reach an EVE universe type of scenario (few major race spreading across the universe on a huge scale). Then you would have a need to **** with others as the immensity of the universe would become very relative lol and the amount of resources as well.
Anyhow, odds are way more in favor of life out here than it is in favor of bearded god watching the show while eating pop-corn. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.09.14 13:57:00 -
[87] - Quote
Just my 2 cents but there are billions of stara in are galaxy and trillions of planets, there is no doubt life formed on some other planet. But.it doesn't matter the vast distances of TIME and space meaning it is very unlikely there are any space faring alians out there and if there its unlike they would even be near each other or exist in the same time period.
So yes I have no doubt there is alian life outthere simple because of statistics. But incredible distance seperates us not to mention a advanced civilization could have come and gone hundreds Of time over the millions of years. Not to mention the difficulty for two culture so radically different to form "galactic federation" is impossible, that is science fiction.
So by sheer number of changes that life could take hold, there is life out there. But the far lower change of intelligent life forming combined with the vast distances qnd periods of time means its unlikely we will meet alians. And there is no galaxy spanning federation that's impossible, and there no "keep earth in the dark" conspiracy that's for lunes.
Just my two cents |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.21 19:59:00 -
[88] - Quote
Newfound Alien Planet a Top Contender to Host Life |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:10:00 -
[89] - Quote
TotalBreakage wrote:4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know.... but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
I think they are real and they come vist here often today and in History. There is just way too much up that dosn't add up in History. It's either aliens or a very ancient human civilization that has not been discovered. And I'm not getting my **** from the Ancient Aliens show, I've read a ton of literature on this subject.
Perhaps I will start a thread on the uses of a Dual Einstein Rosenburg Bridge and its uses when linking two Event Horizons?? I.e. +10 and -10 gives 0 resulting in a balaced equation.
+infinity outside the black hole aka as our Universe leads to -infinity at the Event Horizon. Usefull for rapid technological development via temporal desincronization.
What did I say?? Sigh. Perhaps a movie script that gives a detailed explanation??
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Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
143
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:13:00 -
[90] - Quote
The universe is too big for there not to be |
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Chew B0CCA
58
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:34:00 -
[91] - Quote
So, may be the distances and time aren't that big of a deal after all. Anybody want to travel 10 times the speed of light without actually traveling 10 times the speed of light? Read on:
http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:59:00 -
[92] - Quote
I believe in the work on non-equlibrium thermodynamics done over the last 40 years that has shown theoretically and empirically that matter self-organizes in non-equilibrium environments that have a positive net energy input(i.e. the sun, thermal vents, radioactive minerals, gravitational heating, etc.)
Given that little bit of knowledge, I'd give looooong odds in favour of lots of life in lots of places in the universe.
When Feynman was asked about what Physics had to say about the possibility of life arising from matter in the current model of physics he said something like(begging forgiveness in advance, I can't find the quote):
--- Think about the simple water molecule, H2O. Think about all the different ways it can behave, all the different shapes and forms it can take, the incredible and still-not-understood chemistry of water all by itself.
If one simple molecule can act in all those different ways interacting only with itself, who can say what happens when all of the atoms, molecules and radiations in all the possible environments are interacting with each other?
In short, Physics has nothing to say about the possibility or impossibility of the material evolution of life because it is a far more complex question that Physics is able to address. For now. ---
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Corvus Dorn1
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.09.22 18:07:00 -
[93] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:[quote=4447] *alien version of facepalm*
Facesuctionpad
I know this is supposed to be about the beta, but i love reading topics like these, please (whoever it was) expand on why you think its a simulation
And yeh how can there not be life out there, even if its only out there because the universe is infinite, theres thousands upon thousands upon (i think) millions of starts just in the Milky way alone, how can there not be a planet with the right set of coincedences to start up life (even life that is nothing like how we know it) around one of them
And back to DUST: Alien Life forms could be a form zombies (forgive me for relating to COD, but thats what the casuals will like if you can pull it off) or they could just be a more interesting version of PVE (i.e. not just drones/pirate AI, spice it up, give 'em tentacles and invisibilty ) |
Cinder Integ
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
23
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:06:00 -
[94] - Quote
Take two planes, each with a clock set to the same time, and have them fly in opposite directions... one with the spin of the earth, and one against it. When both planes are finally back together take a look at the times on the clock.
A basic life form could be born today and surpass us in complexity and technology by tomorrow, given that the planet it resided on was moving fast enough. Speed vs time = incredible. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:16:00 -
[95] - Quote
To be honest here I don't think we should be exploring space that much and the reason for that is because what do we know about our ocean? we spend tons of money trying to explore planets way out there but yet we know nothing about our ocean. And here is what I'm sceptical about the landing on the moon I think they found something that they don't want us to know , I mean think about it they sent a rover to mars (the mars rover) to explore that but why haven't they sent one to the moon? ( if they have sent one to the moon then forget that statement) but if not then wtf |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:55:00 -
[96] - Quote
Cinder Integ wrote:Take two planes, each with a clock set to the same time, and have them fly in opposite directions... one with the spin of the earth, and one against it. When both planes are finally back together take a look at the times on the clock.
A basic life form could be born today and surpass us in complexity and technology by tomorrow, given that the planet it resided on was moving fast enough. Speed vs time = incredible.
The relativistic effects on a body moving around a planet has four components, the first a prediction of special relativity and well-tested, the second, third predictions of general relativity have only been recently tested, approx. 100 years after Einstein produced the theory. The fourth prediction has not been tested afaik.
The third dilation effect is called 'Frame Dragging' and it lead to the creation of what i feel is the single most advanced machine produced by the human race. Gravity Probe 'B'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_Probe_B#Experimental_setup
Also the subsequent data analysis was state of the art and then some. They didn't get the accuracy they wanted, but that doesn't take away from their achievement.
I'm not gonna do the calculation, but it's prolly safe to say that this machine could put a bullet through a Merc's eyeball - from a moon of E-RPGP I. |
GOLD LEAD3R
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.09.23 01:01:00 -
[97] - Quote
Corvus Dorn1 wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:[quote=4447] *alien version of facepalm* Facesuctionpad I know this is supposed to be about the beta, but i love reading topics like these, please (whoever it was) expand on why you think its a simulation
It wasn't me, but I'll give my two cents. It comes down to what we think will happen in the future, and statistics. WARNING: this is a long post, but kind of trippy...
We have simulations today. Video games, simulation programs to simulate the forming of the universe, etc. These sims are getting more lifelike, and it won't be too terribly long before they're exactly like real life. What you'll be able to do on the computer will be photo realistic. I think most of us can agree on that.
Secondly, if you asked futurists and professionals at the cutting edge of technology, most of them would agree that the ideas in the Matrix will eventually happen. We'll be able to plug ourselves into a "computer" and interact with a virtual world that will be indistinguishable from reality. You'll be able to touch, smell, hear, etc. It will be an exact replica of reality.
Lastly, artificial intelligence. Most people assume (as do I) that eventually we'll get to a place where interacting with an artificial mind will be like interacting with an organic mind. Even if it's programmed or learned, we will eventually get to that place (assuming we don't blow ourselves up beforehand). |
GOLD LEAD3R
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.09.23 01:02:00 -
[98] - Quote
Let's say 50 years from now all of this will be possible (maybe it'll be 100, or maybe it'll be 25, but let's just say it's 50). Let's also estimate that there will be 9 billion people on the planet. A fairly conservative estimate. If we assume technology has progressed that far, then it wouldn't be crazy to think that most people will have access to it, but again, I'll go conservative. I'll assume only 1 in 3 people will have access to a simulation or will be able to create their own. That gives us 3 billion people who will have a simulation to run around in.
But, not all of the sims will accurately reflect reality, or course. Throwing out another lowball number, we'll pretend that only 10% of those sims will reflect reality. Now we're at 300 million.
But wait, these simulations are happening 50 years in the future, not in the early 21st century like where we are. But it's safe to assume that there will be interest in seeing how people lived in the early 21st century- the moment in time where nanotechnology, artificial intelligence, quantum computing, information technology, etc, was exploding and starting to take off. Maybe 0.1%of the sims we have left wil be of the early 21st century. Again, a pretty small number. That gives us 300,000 simulations.
300,000 simulations of life as we know it right now. Indistinguishable. If you lived through the early 21st century and was around at a ripe old age when the simulation of the early 21st century was invented, you could plug in and marvel at how it's exactly as you remember it. Of course, all the "people" in the sim would think it's the early 21st century.
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GOLD LEAD3R
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.09.23 01:03:00 -
[99] - Quote
But let's cut that number down even further. Let's just say that I made a huge math error, and the numbers are only 1% as high as I'm making them out to be. That gives us 3,000. 3,000 sims that replicate what the early 21st century was, with NPC's walking around going about their daily lives thinking it really was the early 21st century.
Taking all of that into account, we now have 3,000 replicas of the early 21st century, and the 1 real 21st century they're all based off of. Anyone experiencing a 21st century reality wouldn't know if it was the real thing or a sim, unless you're the one who created it/entered into it, which gives us 3,001 21st century "realities" that would all be the same.
And that means that if you are experiencing a 21st century reality, because you will never be able to tell with 100% certainty if it's real or a sim, your chances are 1 in 3,001 that what you are experiencing is the actual early 21st century.
So you've gotta ask yourself one question: do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? |
Cfurr Kold
3
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Posted - 2012.09.23 06:34:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:As much as I'd love for life to be present elsewhere, it also raises the chances of another alien civilisation harboring their equivalent of Kanye West, and I just don't think a loving god would do that twice.
Course other forms of life would pretty much show that that loving god doesnt exist. Which im prone to agree with. Im more willing to believe theres other life out there than that theres a being with magical powers creating us. Hmm magic or science. |
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LISA MICHELLE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.09.23 06:42:00 -
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I hear theres lifeforms living on URANUS... true story |
STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.23 08:03:00 -
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(Facepalm)^another warrior troll fail |
GarryKE
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Posted - 2012.09.23 11:48:00 -
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I made a well good reply but when I hit submit it was all "you must have a saved draft first" or something stupid. So you know what, I'll just outline it here.
Discovery of two planets: one aquatic and one with a much longer orbit around its sun; both could support life. NASA's plans on terraforming Mars. Bacteria and other life-creating necessities found within asteroids, preserved by the thick layers of ice. Thick layer of pure water found in one of the moons on one of the planets; potential for aquatic life here but deep under rock and ice layers, we'll likely never find out if it's true or not - but still possible. Link - Milky Way has two-billion Earth-like planets (2011)
Life out there? There must be.
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