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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:11:00 -
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@ Loss Tovas --- we can barley get off of our own planet let alone gather data efficiently about our Galaxy that is only a measly 100,000 light years across. |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:16:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:@ Loss Tovas --- we can barley get off of our own planet let alone gather data efficiently about our Galaxy that is only a measly 100,000 light years across.
Yes, I know that... I don't see what you are getting at. |
T asujke Witko
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:18:00 -
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Loss Tovas wrote:I believe that we as homo sapiens are the highest evolved form of life currently in this galaxy. If we ever came in contact with something else then I would of course change my position... But, I am of the opinion that if they ever landed on our planet we should kill them. Historically whenever a more advanced civilization came in contact with a less advanced one, bad things have happened even if there were good intentions.
So, put me in the "could be life and if it is smarter than us we should kill it" basket.
This would come from someone on the Amarr Empire.
...Imperial scum |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:20:00 -
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T asujke Witko wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:You want to know about aliens here this book has all the answers  Do you watch televilsion on youtube?
lol as a matter of fact I am addicted to the weird corners of youtube  |
Loss Tovas
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
236
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:34:00 -
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T asujke Witko wrote:
This would come from someone on the Amarr Empire.
...Imperial scum
Made me LOL.
I prefer the term human exceptionalist.
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:41:00 -
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To say that no life exists there, is to say that no life exists here. |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:01:00 -
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space travel is just like how we traversed the sea.
we started small like a boat with paddles, couldn't get that far with that. so sails came along got a bit farther and so on, in space travel we're at the boat and paddle stage. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:11:00 -
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4447 wrote:space travel is just like how we traversed the sea.
we started small like a boat with paddles, couldn't get that far with that. so sails came along got a bit farther and so on, in space travel we're at the boat and paddle stage.
hmmm read any David Weber lately have we? |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:13:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:4447 wrote:space travel is just like how we traversed the sea.
we started small like a boat with paddles, couldn't get that far with that. so sails came along got a bit farther and so on, in space travel we're at the boat and paddle stage. hmmm read any David Weber lately have we?
don't know who he was until you posted. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:18:00 -
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4447 wrote:space travel is just like how we traversed the sea.
we started small like a boat with paddles, couldn't get that far with that. so sails came along got a bit farther and so on, in space travel we're at the boat and paddle stage.
At space travel we are at cuban stage |
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Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:23:00 -
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really depends on your definition of life.
bacteria under the ice on europa? entirely possible.
little green men that traveled halfway across the universe just to shine lights in our eyes? highly unlikely. |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:26:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:really depends on your definition of life.
bacteria under the ice on europa? entirely possible.
little green men that traveled halfway across the universe just to shine lights in our eyes? highly unlikely.
as i said before i'm happy with bacteria because then will know theres starting blocks out. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:31:00 -
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4447 wrote:Buzzwords wrote:really depends on your definition of life.
bacteria under the ice on europa? entirely possible.
little green men that traveled halfway across the universe just to shine lights in our eyes? highly unlikely. as i said before i'm happy with bacteria because then will know theres starting blocks out.
you know an alien race out there is probably having a similar discussion right now  |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:34:00 -
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Yes there are aliens I have proof and there name----------------------------------------------------------WOMAN.
How can some thing so desirable make your life sheer hell, and you still go back for more got to be a strange alien power to make you do this |
Hockeystars59
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:44:00 -
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What are the chances that if we are the only live out there then mabey we being here could just be a fluke |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:48:00 -
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There may be other life out there, but do they have Bacon? |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:50:00 -
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Hockeystars59 wrote:What are the chances that if we are the only live out there then mabey we being here could just be a fluke
it's possible but the odds of it are unthinkable, but because it happened it would happen again and again. |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:09:00 -
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Francis Drake made an equation to determine the number of possible civilizations out there. Here it is:
The Drake equation states that:
where:
N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible;
and
R* = the average rate of star formation per year in our galaxy
fp = the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fGäô = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space[5]
R factor
One can question why the number of civilizations should be proportional to the star formation rate, though this makes technical sense. (The product of all the factors except L tells how many new communicating civilizations are born each year. Then you multiply by the lifetime to get the expected number. For example, if an average of 0.01 new civilizations are born each year, and they each last 500 years on the average, then on the average 5 will exist at any time.) The original Drake Equation can be extended to a more realistic model, where the equation uses not the number of stars that are forming now, but those that were forming several billion years ago. The alternate formulation, in terms of the number of stars in the galaxy, is easier to explain and understand, but implicitly assumes the star formation rate is constant over the life of the galaxy.
Alternative expression
The number of stars in the galaxy now, N*, is related to the star formation rate R* by
where Tg = the age of the galaxy. Assuming for simplicity that R* is constant, then and the Drake equation can be rewritten into an alternate form phrased in terms of the more easily observable value, N*.[6]
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Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:20:00 -
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My personal view is that the universe is full of life. Advanced life capable of advanced engineering.
I think there are two reasons why we do not find advanced life quickly:
1) advanced life does not communicate using radio waves across interstellar space
2) human understanding of quantum mechanics is too immature right now to identify means of quantum field communication that can subvert the speed of light limitations that radio waves are limited by
In other words the alIens are probably chatting away but we don't know how to listen or what to listen for just yet.
I've also seen some very odd things in the sky and I believe that ET is not too far away. |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:29:00 -
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I do.Whos to say God didnt make aliens.I even think that in islam god put demons on other planets(According to this guy i met whos muslim) and i think there life on mars and europa which is a ice moon. |
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CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:34:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:If its not a simulation sure I expect alot of life is about the real question are there any we comunicate with.
Also if the univerise is infinite then lol of course the answer is yes and yes.
I just hope in my life time they find some proof that life existed on mars all that time ago when they think it might have had liquid H2O.
Go little rover go!
It did it even has polar ice caps |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:38:00 -
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Ow didnt know that we had proved that cool |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:41:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Ow didnt know that we had proved that cool
Plus Europa has water and many other planets.Do u ever wonder if aliens make movies about aliens from earth invading them |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:42:00 -
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CLONE 2774 wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Ow didnt know that we had proved that cool Plus Europa has water and many other planets.Do u ever wonder if aliens make movies about aliens from earth invading them
We would just spam tanks |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.09.14 10:06:00 -
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they believe that H2O is the soup of life but ,i believe any pool of liquid can breed life. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.14 11:53:00 -
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We deal with what we know : Carbon based-life ; Water being an absolute condition to create and sustain it.
Thus, the potential other life forms we can anticipate are based on this model. There would be no point in thinking differently.
But even then, with the number of other planets that have water, odds are that there are other life forms out there. Maybe not human type or even socially developped life forms but basic one, it's a sure thing.
Now, i dont really believe in the "hey found you, will destroy you" type of scenario. If you're bright enough to travel through space without any problem, i would tend to think you reached a sufficiently high conscience to care for life, especially if not of any danger to you. Trouble of ressources being somehow insignificant compared to how large the universe is to get some.
Then, if you reach an EVE universe type of scenario (few major race spreading across the universe on a huge scale). Then you would have a need to **** with others as the immensity of the universe would become very relative lol and the amount of resources as well.
Anyhow, odds are way more in favor of life out here than it is in favor of bearded god watching the show while eating pop-corn. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.09.14 13:57:00 -
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Just my 2 cents but there are billions of stara in are galaxy and trillions of planets, there is no doubt life formed on some other planet. But.it doesn't matter the vast distances of TIME and space meaning it is very unlikely there are any space faring alians out there and if there its unlike they would even be near each other or exist in the same time period.
So yes I have no doubt there is alian life outthere simple because of statistics. But incredible distance seperates us not to mention a advanced civilization could have come and gone hundreds Of time over the millions of years. Not to mention the difficulty for two culture so radically different to form "galactic federation" is impossible, that is science fiction.
So by sheer number of changes that life could take hold, there is life out there. But the far lower change of intelligent life forming combined with the vast distances qnd periods of time means its unlikely we will meet alians. And there is no galaxy spanning federation that's impossible, and there no "keep earth in the dark" conspiracy that's for lunes.
Just my two cents |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.21 19:59:00 -
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Newfound Alien Planet a Top Contender to Host Life |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:10:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:4447 wrote:this is a bit about DUST 514 so lets start...
EVE online has alien life form on their planets that we know....
but what about in the real universe, I'm not talking about UFO here, but life forms living on distance planets. now the universe is in number form is infinite to are knowledge meaning that we we can't identify the number in terms of how big it is. now a life form doesn't have to be intelligent i.e bacteria and so on. to my knowledge they think they found bacteria on mars meaning aliens do exist.
I think they are real and they come vist here often today and in History. There is just way too much up that dosn't add up in History. It's either aliens or a very ancient human civilization that has not been discovered. And I'm not getting my **** from the Ancient Aliens show, I've read a ton of literature on this subject.
Perhaps I will start a thread on the uses of a Dual Einstein Rosenburg Bridge and its uses when linking two Event Horizons??
I.e. +10 and -10 gives 0 resulting in a balaced equation.
+infinity outside the black hole aka as our Universe leads to -infinity at the Event Horizon.
Usefull for rapid technological development via temporal desincronization.
What did I say??
Sigh.
Perhaps a movie script that gives a detailed explanation??
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Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
143
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Posted - 2012.09.21 20:13:00 -
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The universe is too big for there not to be |
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