Hey,

First up.......... this is the first FPS I have tried since my little brother gave me a whipping some 15 years or so ago on DOOM.

Never played one since!

Now, that may put me beyond help, I'm not sure, but we'll see.


Now, I'm looking at stats something like 12 deaths to 1 kill, which incredibly, doesn't put me at the bottom of the lists, but doesn't make me feel to good either.

I think my main problem is that I simply can not hit anything. The only time I find success at this is when I'm Sniping and I happen to have someone in my sights that is facing away from me.

I appreciate that without a video of me in action (that would just be a nightmare to watch) it's going to be hard to pinpoint my errors. But are there some general hints and tips someone can give?

Should I be knelt down (stance) to shoot, should I be running around with zoom on? Should I be using the directional twiddler (rarely play the ps3 so I don't even know the name of that thing on the pad) or should I just use left and right movement when someone is in front of me.

I understand that I am just plain bad at this, but I can't help but wonder in amazement at people that can take me down from miles off when they are using the (bah, forgotten the name) standard role (not heavy, scout or medic). They can be running towards me and I can fire a full two or three rounds off and not hit them (at least not kill them).

I'm just looking for some general advice on how to play these sorts of games............ I've never really been keen on them before, but I quite like the look of this and the fact that it links to EvE.

Are there any good sites out there that can 'coach' me along?

Regards

A sad DUST player

At first, try sticking with other Mercs and not venturing alone as this will get you into intense firefights quickly, and intense meaning you'll die a quick death.

If you're at a distance, use cover to your advantage at first. Don't try firing from the hip as it is unprecise and you'll end up wasting ammo without any hits. Use your weapon's reticle and try to shoot while leading your target. As with a real automatic weapon, fire in short bursts to maintain precision.

Now when in a close-quarters firefight, know that most common soldiers will jump/strafe a lot, so the main thing you need to practice is your predicting where they move/land and always try to lead that. Fire in short bursts again here, only going full auto when your opponent is low on health.

I'd recommend starting out with a rifle that holds a lot of ammo, which'll keep you from reloading all the time while you dance and dodge bullets.

If you started out as a Sniper, stick to this and use it to practice your aim. Get the Charge Sniper Rifle as it's one of the most effective LRSW you'll find for beginners, and keep shootin' ;)

Thanks for the advice and the morale boost :)

I am in fact using the Charge Sniper Rifle as I can just sit there with it charged and wait for things.... whcih is where most of my kills come from. So, I'll stick to that for a while.

Can I ask what skills are good to pick up early in the game.

I'm trying not to apply to much EvE knowledge but the sig radius decrease is very temping, but I'm rarely snipped at myself so I'm not sure it's all that useful.

Any more tips..... please keem 'em coming

Regards

Jax

All great advice... thanks.

Microphone might be a bit of an issue as the Mrs goes nuts when I use it on EvE ..... though, no harm in trying ...... I think.

I don't know what SMG is, so I'll have to do some reading and get up to speed.

Please keep the tips coming, I'm sure I'm not the only useless one out there (please please let that be true).

Regards

Jax

If you want to get good at FPS. First thing you do is drop that sniper rifle. It's a very common tactic for newbies to pick up sniper rifles because they can't kill anything with an AR. It's not going to get you any where, and you don't want to be one of those sniper using noobs for the rest of your Dust career.

i suggest you pick up an AR and start trying. to pick off targets your team mates are shooting at. Over time you will get better and start taking out targets on your own. Always try shooting at medium range and always aim for the upper body/head while aiming down sights.

Go to settings and set X and Y sensitivity to 100. It should help massively. Strangely enough Dust does this the other way around than other shooters, at least this build.

100 is the least sensitive in DUST. Backwards from where you would expect. 0 is the most sensitive.

100 is the least sensitive in DUST. Backwards from where you would expect. 0 is the most sensitive.

hah.. wow, did not know that..


Below are my suggestions from someone familiar with FPS but new to Console FPS. I haven't overcome my dislike for the KBM setup for Dust so these tips are for the DS3. I focused mostly on vehicles, swarm launcher last patch, but have ventured into more direct infantry combat this patch and am finding I'm doing much better.

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Weaponry to 5

Don't 1v1 in a scout suit unless you have the jump on someone. I live a lot longer in a Logi suit and an AR. I imagine Assault suits could be similarly good, but I wanted the extra equipment (free SP, and helpful to the team)

The AR and SMG are especially good for fighting.

Light weapon range extending skill is good (forget the exact name), as is reload and capacity.

Make up for the inaccuracy of your thumbs for aiming by strafing to move the target to your crosshair. This has helped me immensely when I'm slightly off in my aim, and clumsy on the sticks.

Sensitivity 0 is apparently the most sensitive (repeating this from someone else's post), so this may help if you are running around at 100 thinking you are getting used to the most sensitive settings like I had done. I don't have a suggested sensitivity, but will play with it.

Focus on fighting, not objectives. I know this is counter-productive for winning games, and others seem to already do this, but if you want to improve your game, focus on that game. It's hard to divide yourself between a couple things. I know when I'm running around with a Swarm Launcher and have my SMG out, I do much more poorly when I try to dual role. If you want to improve something, focus focus focus. THEN, you can switch between roles you already know, instead of being weak at one. As much as I want to win every pickup game I play, it's more important to improve your skills than get a meaningless victory. Once you get good at fighting, then you can focus on winning. It's hard to win when you are bad at shooting.

Also, learn when you need to withdraw. In the past I would suicidally storm the enemy gates and go out in a blaze of glory.. but the good players know when to withdraw, regroup and try something different.

Hope these things help.

To OP,

First good job for asking for advice buddy, most players have their egos so large they fail to ask good questions and usually end up just quitting the game.

I highly suggest a mic in this game, team work is a must to get better and it also makes the game more fun to chat with your fellow dust bunnies.

Also as a suggestion, may I give you my build for AR players, it may help.

2 shield extenders, you already have shield regen so I don't personally use more regen of shields but I like to have a lot of shields when I play. In the other slots depending on your CPU/PG you can use a militia armor repair. As armor itself does not repair itself like shields do.

+1 to all the players suggesting to get weaponry up to lvl 5, great suggestion.

Stick to cover, don't be in the open. If you are in the open, you are open to multiple directions of fire coming at you, but if you stay near cover you can take cover when you get fired upon and that gives you time to figure out what direction the fire is coming and also to save your armor/shields for the fire fight.

Move with players, find a few guys stay near them but not in front of them.

Good advice, if you see two players going at each other in a 1vs1 duel, don't be that guy and still a players kill to pad your stats.

If nothing else, please add me to your in game contacts send me a group invite, Ill be glad to chat and play a few rounds and observe your fighting style so I may offer tips.

Stay strong fellow dust bunny, we all were in your shoes at one time, but we stay calm and chived on to get better.

Chive On Brother!

All great advice, something I like to do to keep my aim on point, pick a random wall, rock, whatever strikes your fancy, put a bullet hole in it, look off the the side a bit, then practice drawing down on it(Zoom in down sights and get a bead on the bullet hole) the faster you're able to draw down on someone the faster you can start shooting, in close quarters situations being quicker on the draw can mean the difference between life or death

Hey,

More great advice.... thank you all.

I think some of you need to get back on the EvE-O forums as it's missing your kind of (actually) helpful advice. That said, I'm a little better at that game than this one

A quick quesiton about using a headset as this is starting to sound like the single strongest piece of advice. I have a USB headset; can I just plug that into one of the ports (assuming they are USB) that the controllers use?

Also.... do you all use the PS3 controller or are you use keyboards and mice?

Regards

Jax

To OP,

First good job for asking for advice buddy, most players have their egos so large they fail to ask good questions and usually end up just quitting the game.

I highly suggest a mic in this game, team work is a must to get better and it also makes the game more fun to chat with your fellow dust bunnies.

Also as a suggestion, may I give you my build for AR players, it may help.

2 shield extenders, you already have shield regen so I don't personally use more regen of shields but I like to have a lot of shields when I play. In the other slots depending on your CPU/PG you can use a militia armor repair. As armor itself does not repair itself like shields do.

+1 to all the players suggesting to get weaponry up to lvl 5, great suggestion.

Stick to cover, don't be in the open. If you are in the open, you are open to multiple directions of fire coming at you, but if you stay near cover you can take cover when you get fired upon and that gives you time to figure out what direction the fire is coming and also to save your armor/shields for the fire fight.

Move with players, find a few guys stay near them but not in front of them.

Good advice, if you see two players going at each other in a 1vs1 duel, don't be that guy and still a players kill to pad your stats.

If nothing else, please add me to your in game contacts send me a group invite, Ill be glad to chat and play a few rounds and observe your fighting style so I may offer tips.

Stay strong fellow dust bunny, we all were in your shoes at one time, but we stay calm and chived on to get better.

Good advice, if you see two players going at each other in a 1vs1 duel, don't be that guy and still a players kill to pad your stats.

If nothing else, please add me to your in game contacts send me a group invite, Ill be glad to chat and play a few rounds and observe your fighting style so I may offer tips.

If your still struggling Jax and your on the EU servers at night or a US player, then hit me up a message in game when you get your headset sorted. I'd be happy to coach you through the basics ;)

I play in the EU myself, but my times are totally anit-social :P

Thank you both. I'll see if i can get the headset working this evening. Only problem is that the PS is on the other side of the room to the sofa......

Also... an update to all of you that have offered great advice. You took the time to help me so, I'll take the time to provide updates..... not that I imagine that make good reading.

I've managed to get through two full rounds of battles today and have reduced my death count to around 4/5 per game and have now managed to get an average of 2 kills per game along with a few assists...... so I am really pleased with that and that I can report that the advice and tips are really working.

I've switched guns to one that holds around 60 rounds (Burst I think) and have removed the reacharger from my suit and put another shield in there, though I got the impression I was supposed to be removing something else to use another shield...... not sure though.

I am moving around a lot more and diving for cover as soon as I take hits rather than trying to find what was shooting me.

I'm like a lemming at the moment.... blindly following the closest person to me and just praying that they know more than I do........ and of course.... trying not to shoot them in the back....... which isn't easy sometimes.

Anyhows..... thank you all and if there are any more advices.... please keep them coming and I'll post some more random Newb questions soon, I'm sure!

Good hunting!

Regards

Jax

Great advice, if you buy into the whole "If you dont play the style I play you are a noob" or you could ignore the kids and play what style you like. CCP didnt accidentally put sniper rifles in, if you have fun with them, do it. Dont let some 12 year old tell you what is cool.

I'm giving him advice on FPS. He wants to get better he has to first use AR'S to learn how to play FPS. Later on, he can grab a sniper and if he's good at it, he can play like it.

I dont know why you are so mad.

Two questions:

1. Is there a way to swap a character without quitting the game?
2. How do I create the best Assault character from the game menu?

Cheers

Hey,

More great advice.... thank you all.

I think some of you need to get back on the EvE-O forums as it's missing your kind of (actually) helpful advice. That said, I'm a little better at that game than this one

A quick quesiton about using a headset as this is starting to sound like the single strongest piece of advice. I have a USB headset; can I just plug that into one of the ports (assuming they are USB) that the controllers use?

Also.... do you all use the PS3 controller or are you use keyboards and mice?

Regards

Jax

all great advice, but how can I tell what weapons can be upgraded and what skills I need for them. Its all confusing. I play R3 which is nothing like this.

I almost feel like I am cheating - but i went to KB and mouse. So many years of pc gaming is a hard habit to break.

Hey,

Here I CAN help you.

This game runs similar to EvE, so I guess you have not played that.

Almost everything is a skill level based system so if you want that gun that has larger CPU and GRID, then you need to train skills that either A) reduce the requirements of the gun itself or B) improve your own CPU and GRID or C) both.

Now, in relation to your actual question. If you go to the market and find the gun you want press 'info', which i think is the triangle and it will call up new window that has tabs. Use L/R2 to move between tabs. One will tell you what it does, one will tell you its stats and another will tell you the 'per-requisite' skills you require.... and this is the screen you need.

Now, one thing to be wary of, is that it may tell you that you need XYZ skills however you may also need ABC skill to train XYZ.

Example:

To use (made up name) Electron Blaster 2 you require Blaster specializations. Now Blaster Specializations will require you to have the standard blaster skill to 5. So, just because you know what skill you need for the gun, it doesn't mean you can actually use it.

not sure if they allow pictures in forums here: [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/ajxfgg.jpg[/IMG]
http://i46.tinypic.com/ajxfgg.jpg

In the diagram. The guns requires the red skill set, however the red skill set requires the yellow skill set and can not be trained until all the yellows have been trained and trained to the correct level.

There is also the CPU and GRID requirements as shown above. So, just because you can 'use' the gun, it doesn't mean you can fit it. So, get the stats and measure that against what you have now and what 'fitting space' you have.

Something to be wary of is buying lots of new and better stuff in one go. As unless you have trained really well and have waited a while, it's unlikely to ALL fit at the same time.

Regards

JAX

ps.... still great advice coming.........

Buy a tank

wow, just wow.
i dont think i have ever seen a forum actually help someone with good advice.
im coming into this from battlefield and those forums are unbelievable ,they are not so nice to noobs ,they will chew you up and spit you out ,
im new to this game and am looking forward to its release but i know nothing about this game the depth of this game is very overwhelming for a noob like myself so thanks for the good advice you have given the op ,i will profit from the advice also

Thanks for the tips.....and the encouragement!

Any ideas on the 'sticks'? You know.... those things that you waggle at the screen.......

Do they work in this game? Strikes me that a gun (those plastic things) pointing at the screen is the way to go, though I'd imagine they are not compatible...

Regards

Jax