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Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:05:00 -
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Hey,
First up.......... this is the first FPS I have tried since my little brother gave me a whipping some 15 years or so ago on DOOM.
Never played one since!
Now, that may put me beyond help, I'm not sure, but we'll see.
Now, I'm looking at stats something like 12 deaths to 1 kill, which incredibly, doesn't put me at the bottom of the lists, but doesn't make me feel to good either.
I think my main problem is that I simply can not hit anything. The only time I find success at this is when I'm Sniping and I happen to have someone in my sights that is facing away from me.
I appreciate that without a video of me in action (that would just be a nightmare to watch) it's going to be hard to pinpoint my errors. But are there some general hints and tips someone can give?
Should I be knelt down (stance) to shoot, should I be running around with zoom on? Should I be using the directional twiddler (rarely play the ps3 so I don't even know the name of that thing on the pad) or should I just use left and right movement when someone is in front of me.
I understand that I am just plain bad at this, but I can't help but wonder in amazement at people that can take me down from miles off when they are using the (bah, forgotten the name) standard role (not heavy, scout or medic). They can be running towards me and I can fire a full two or three rounds off and not hit them (at least not kill them).
I'm just looking for some general advice on how to play these sorts of games............ I've never really been keen on them before, but I quite like the look of this and the fact that it links to EvE.
Are there any good sites out there that can 'coach' me along?
Regards
A sad DUST player |
Nate Silverley
Rebelles A Quebec
139
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:17:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:Hey,
First up.......... this is the first FPS I have tried since my little brother gave me a whipping some 15 years or so ago on DOOM.
Never played one since!
Now, that may put me beyond help, I'm not sure, but we'll see.
Now, I'm looking at stats something like 12 deaths to 1 kill, which incredibly, doesn't put me at the bottom of the lists, but doesn't make me feel to good either.
I think my main problem is that I simply can not hit anything. The only time I find success at this is when I'm Sniping and I happen to have someone in my sights that is facing away from me.
I appreciate that without a video of me in action (that would just be a nightmare to watch) it's going to be hard to pinpoint my errors. But are there some general hints and tips someone can give?
Should I be knelt down (stance) to shoot, should I be running around with zoom on? Should I be using the directional twiddler (rarely play the ps3 so I don't even know the name of that thing on the pad) or should I just use left and right movement when someone is in front of me.
I understand that I am just plain bad at this, but I can't help but wonder in amazement at people that can take me down from miles off when they are using the (bah, forgotten the name) standard role (not heavy, scout or medic). They can be running towards me and I can fire a full two or three rounds off and not hit them (at least not kill them).
I'm just looking for some general advice on how to play these sorts of games............ I've never really been keen on them before, but I quite like the look of this and the fact that it links to EvE.
Are there any good sites out there that can 'coach' me along?
Regards
A sad DUST player
At first, try sticking with other Mercs and not venturing alone as this will get you into intense firefights quickly, and intense meaning you'll die a quick death.
If you're at a distance, use cover to your advantage at first. Don't try firing from the hip as it is unprecise and you'll end up wasting ammo without any hits. Use your weapon's reticle and try to shoot while leading your target. As with a real automatic weapon, fire in short bursts to maintain precision.
Now when in a close-quarters firefight, know that most common soldiers will jump/strafe a lot, so the main thing you need to practice is your predicting where they move/land and always try to lead that. Fire in short bursts again here, only going full auto when your opponent is low on health.
I'd recommend starting out with a rifle that holds a lot of ammo, which'll keep you from reloading all the time while you dance and dodge bullets.
If you started out as a Sniper, stick to this and use it to practice your aim. Get the Charge Sniper Rifle as it's one of the most effective LRSW you'll find for beginners, and keep shootin' ;)
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Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:27:00 -
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Thanks for the advice and the morale boost :)
I am in fact using the Charge Sniper Rifle as I can just sit there with it charged and wait for things.... whcih is where most of my kills come from. So, I'll stick to that for a while.
Can I ask what skills are good to pick up early in the game.
I'm trying not to apply to much EvE knowledge but the sig radius decrease is very temping, but I'm rarely snipped at myself so I'm not sure it's all that useful.
Any more tips..... please keem 'em coming
Regards
Jax |
Kengfa
138
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:29:00 -
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Nate Silverley wrote:Jax GG wrote:Hey,
First up.......... this is the first FPS I have tried since my little brother gave me a whipping some 15 years or so ago on DOOM.
Never played one since!
Now, that may put me beyond help, I'm not sure, but we'll see.
Now, I'm looking at stats something like 12 deaths to 1 kill, which incredibly, doesn't put me at the bottom of the lists, but doesn't make me feel to good either.
I think my main problem is that I simply can not hit anything. The only time I find success at this is when I'm Sniping and I happen to have someone in my sights that is facing away from me.
I appreciate that without a video of me in action (that would just be a nightmare to watch) it's going to be hard to pinpoint my errors. But are there some general hints and tips someone can give?
Should I be knelt down (stance) to shoot, should I be running around with zoom on? Should I be using the directional twiddler (rarely play the ps3 so I don't even know the name of that thing on the pad) or should I just use left and right movement when someone is in front of me.
I understand that I am just plain bad at this, but I can't help but wonder in amazement at people that can take me down from miles off when they are using the (bah, forgotten the name) standard role (not heavy, scout or medic). They can be running towards me and I can fire a full two or three rounds off and not hit them (at least not kill them).
I'm just looking for some general advice on how to play these sorts of games............ I've never really been keen on them before, but I quite like the look of this and the fact that it links to EvE.
Are there any good sites out there that can 'coach' me along?
Regards
A sad DUST player At first, try sticking with other Mercs and not venturing alone as this will get you into intense firefights quickly, and intense meaning you'll die a quick death. If you're at a distance, use cover to your advantage at first. Don't try firing from the hip as it is unprecise and you'll end up wasting ammo without any hits. Use your weapon's reticle and try to shoot while leading your target. As with a real automatic weapon, fire in short bursts to maintain precision. Now when in a close-quarters firefight, know that most common soldiers will jump/strafe a lot, so the main thing you need to practice is your predicting where they move/land and always try to lead that. Fire in short bursts again here, only going full auto when your opponent is low on health. I'd recommend starting out with a rifle that holds a lot of ammo, which'll keep you from reloading all the time while you dance and dodge bullets. If you started out as a Sniper, stick to this and use it to practice your aim. Get the Charge Sniper Rifle as it's one of the most effective LRSW you'll find for beginners, and keep shootin' ;)
No, don't do it at first. ALWAYS do it. It's ******* idiotic to run off on your own. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:32:00 -
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Well first off if this is basically completely new to you then I would not being playing the scout suit. Its the fastest but the weakest suit for taking dmg. Your best bet for learning the game is to get the assault or maybe even the logistics suit and try those out. Assault is nice because it can absorb quite a bit of dmg but you dont move like molasses. Logi is nice at least for the lower lvls because of the extra equipment you can carry. My suggestion is to use the logistics because then you can help you team while your learning to play. Plus if you are there to help your teammates by repairing them they are more likely to stick closer to you offering you some protection as well while your learning.
First thing to learn is movement and using both joysticks at the same time. Dont stop or crouch to shoot (unless your sniper). You will be a target that someone can pick off easily then. Just keep moving when in a fire fight and adjust your aim to the enemy as your moving.
I would take out your secondary weapon from your suit and just have a primary weapon and use extra space in your suit for extra sheilds and things to help your teammates. If you not a good shooter having a secondary isnt going to help you much. From there it really is just practice practice practice. If you dont have enemies around practice following teammates with your reticle and try to keep it on them while they move all over the place. This will help you when it comes time to face enemies as the only difference is that you press the fire button when facing enemies.
Also dont keep doing the same thing. If you have run towards a building or area of the map and have died several times in a row. Take a different route.
Also if you have a mic use it...if not then get one. You can get some decent mics that are not that expensive or you can get some nice headsets in the 50-90 dollar range.
Then find someone to squad up with who is willing to be patient with someone who is new. Most people if you let them know you are new when you squad up are more willing to forgive bad play then if you dont tell them you are new and they just think that you should know how to play but are bad. |
Kengfa
138
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:33:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:Thanks for the advice and the morale boost :)
I am in fact using the Charge Sniper Rifle as I can just sit there with it charged and wait for things.... whcih is where most of my kills come from. So, I'll stick to that for a while.
Can I ask what skills are good to pick up early in the game.
I'm trying not to apply to much EvE knowledge but the sig radius decrease is very temping, but I'm rarely snipped at myself so I'm not sure it's all that useful.
Any more tips..... please keem 'em coming
Regards
Jax
Depends what you want to do. But, before getting new weapons, raise your weaponry skill, and max your proficiency for that weapon type, as it's more useful than spending extra isk for a better weapon every game. It will also increase your effective range of any weapon in that category.
Same thing with dropsuits. Get better shields and armor before getting better dropsuits. As well with tanks. Never go beyond madrugar/Gunnlogi. Anything more is just throwing your money away as all you get is a 300 extra shield / armor, or well, a low number like that, I don't know exactly how much. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:38:00 -
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get your Weapon (1X) Skill to level 5.
My $.02 for you would be the following. Get a logistics suit and put an SMG on it and add shield extenders and an armor repair. Learn to support teams and spray the SMG when enemies get close you. Over time your shooting skills will improved enough to where you can venture into different weapons.
ALSO: First thing you should do is read through THIS.
Second thing you should do is create custom Militia fits. You should go the the market place and buy all the Militia Gear (for drop suits, not tanks). Get all the Militia equipment, drop suit modules, some weapons etc. Next, go to your fittings menu and create some various fittings with all your militia stuff.
Third thing you should do is skill up Weaponry (1x) to level five. This will make all of the weapons you shoot 15% more useful/increase their damage.
If you can't kill in Dust 514, you will be killed.
PS. hit start and go to options and turn your mic on and push to talk off. PSS. hit select and go to add channel and add LFSquad. PSSS. as soon as you spawn you should find a teammate and follow them around and shoot at what they shoot at. Double teaming is the fastest way to find success. |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:54:00 -
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All great advice... thanks.
Microphone might be a bit of an issue as the Mrs goes nuts when I use it on EvE ..... though, no harm in trying ...... I think.
I don't know what SMG is, so I'll have to do some reading and get up to speed.
Please keep the tips coming, I'm sure I'm not the only useless one out there (please please let that be true).
Regards
Jax |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:56:00 -
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Dont give up, a lot of people are more familiar with fps and a lot of them have had the chance to play dust for awhile. You will get better as time goes on. |
Gauder Berwyck
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:01:00 -
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Go to settings and set X and Y sensitivity to 100. It should help massively. Strangely enough Dust does this the other way around than other shooters, at least this build. |
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:06:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:All great advice... thanks.
Microphone might be a bit of an issue as the Mrs goes nuts when I use it on EvE ..... though, no harm in trying ...... I think.
I don't know what SMG is, so I'll have to do some reading and get up to speed.
Please keep the tips coming, I'm sure I'm not the only useless one out there (please please let that be true).
Regards
Jax
Sub/Small Machine Gun - it is a weapon class and can be equipped in your light weapon slot and/or sidearm slot. Its primary use is close range and it has a high ROF (rate of fire) |
Corban Lahnder
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:20:00 -
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Real simple piece of advice.
There are two kinds of mercs in dust.
The ones who know where the nearest place is to take cover.
And the ones who are dead.
Dont shoot at something unless for sure you know you can hurt it or take it out. Shooting wildly for harassment purposes just draws a lot of attention to yourself.
Other FPS's are like checkers this is Chess. Your really got to plan out your actions before you do them. Even if your in a tank. |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:50:00 -
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If you want to get good at FPS. First thing you do is drop that sniper rifle. It's a very common tactic for newbies to pick up sniper rifles because they can't kill anything with an AR. It's not going to get you any where, and you don't want to be one of those sniper using noobs for the rest of your Dust career.
i suggest you pick up an AR and start trying to pick off targets your team mates are shooting at. Over time you will get better and start taking out targets on your own. Always try shooting at medium range and always aim for the upper body/head while aiming down sights. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:09:00 -
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TotalBreakage wrote:If you want to get good at FPS. First thing you do is drop that sniper rifle. It's a very common tactic for newbies to pick up sniper rifles because they can't kill anything with an AR. It's not going to get you any where, and you don't want to be one of those sniper using noobs for the rest of your Dust career.
i suggest you pick up an AR and start trying. to pick off targets your team mates are shooting at. Over time you will get better and start taking out targets on your own. Always try shooting at medium range and always aim for the upper body/head while aiming down sights. Great advice, if you buy into the whole "If you dont play the style I play you are a noob" or you could ignore the kids and play what style you like. CCP didnt accidentally put sniper rifles in, if you have fun with them, do it. Dont let some 12 year old tell you what is cool. |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:11:00 -
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People who ask for help rather than complain that something is broken have my respect. So you get a +1 from me good Sir!
As people have said in the posts above, stick to a group of people and don't venture out too much on your own. Use cover whenever it is available, and there isn't no shame in making a tactical retreat if the odds are stacked against you.
Pick your fights wisely, and only engaged if you are comfortable with you chances of success.
The great thing about Dust, is that you don't HAVE to be a straight up killer to be successful in this game...
If you continue to struggle killing people, go logistics and support your team. Using the support Items available and keeping your Team alive will get you some gaming buddies in no time.
Eventually you will find yourself a Corporation that will help you mature into a good Player, and you will enjoy the game alot more.
Either way, good luck in the game buddy! |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:11:00 -
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Hey everyone,
Really appreciate the response and the advice!
Thank you.
That'll give me some thing to work with for the next few years days |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:22:00 -
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Gauder Berwyck wrote:Go to settings and set X and Y sensitivity to 100. It should help massively. Strangely enough Dust does this the other way around than other shooters, at least this build.
Say what??
Really, you would go as high as 100 on X and Y? Ill try it just for a few rounds but for a player with accuracy related issues like the OP, would you not actually slow down the reticule to allow the player to get better lock on the target?
Personally I am 40/40 on X and Y and it moves very well for me and my AR build, is this a sniper tip or an overall tip.
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V4DOL
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:27:00 -
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100 is the least sensitive in DUST. Backwards from where you would expect. 0 is the most sensitive. |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:29:00 -
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To OP,
First good job for asking for advice buddy, most players have their egos so large they fail to ask good questions and usually end up just quitting the game.
I highly suggest a mic in this game, team work is a must to get better and it also makes the game more fun to chat with your fellow dust bunnies.
Also as a suggestion, may I give you my build for AR players, it may help.
2 shield extenders, you already have shield regen so I don't personally use more regen of shields but I like to have a lot of shields when I play. In the other slots depending on your CPU/PG you can use a militia armor repair. As armor itself does not repair itself like shields do.
+1 to all the players suggesting to get weaponry up to lvl 5, great suggestion.
Stick to cover, don't be in the open. If you are in the open, you are open to multiple directions of fire coming at you, but if you stay near cover you can take cover when you get fired upon and that gives you time to figure out what direction the fire is coming and also to save your armor/shields for the fire fight.
Move with players, find a few guys stay near them but not in front of them.
Good advice, if you see two players going at each other in a 1vs1 duel, don't be that guy and still a players kill to pad your stats.
If nothing else, please add me to your in game contacts send me a group invite, Ill be glad to chat and play a few rounds and observe your fighting style so I may offer tips.
Stay strong fellow dust bunny, we all were in your shoes at one time, but we stay calm and chived on to get better. |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:30:00 -
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V4DOL wrote:100 is the least sensitive in DUST. Backwards from where you would expect. 0 is the most sensitive.
No kidding, was it that way last build. TY both by the way, good stuff. +1 to both of you.
Ill have to play with my X and Y when I get on next.
Cheers. |
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Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:49:00 -
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V4DOL wrote:100 is the least sensitive in DUST. Backwards from where you would expect. 0 is the most sensitive.
hah.. wow, did not know that..
Below are my suggestions from someone familiar with FPS but new to Console FPS. I haven't overcome my dislike for the KBM setup for Dust so these tips are for the DS3. I focused mostly on vehicles, swarm launcher last patch, but have ventured into more direct infantry combat this patch and am finding I'm doing much better.
Weaponry to 5
Don't 1v1 in a scout suit unless you have the jump on someone. I live a lot longer in a Logi suit and an AR. I imagine Assault suits could be similarly good, but I wanted the extra equipment (free SP, and helpful to the team)
The AR and SMG are especially good for fighting.
Light weapon range extending skill is good (forget the exact name), as is reload and capacity.
Make up for the inaccuracy of your thumbs for aiming by strafing to move the target to your crosshair. This has helped me immensely when I'm slightly off in my aim, and clumsy on the sticks.
Sensitivity 0 is apparently the most sensitive (repeating this from someone else's post), so this may help if you are running around at 100 thinking you are getting used to the most sensitive settings like I had done. I don't have a suggested sensitivity, but will play with it.
Focus on fighting, not objectives. I know this is counter-productive for winning games, and others seem to already do this, but if you want to improve your game, focus on that game. It's hard to divide yourself between a couple things. I know when I'm running around with a Swarm Launcher and have my SMG out, I do much more poorly when I try to dual role. If you want to improve something, focus focus focus. THEN, you can switch between roles you already know, instead of being weak at one. As much as I want to win every pickup game I play, it's more important to improve your skills than get a meaningless victory. Once you get good at fighting, then you can focus on winning. It's hard to win when you are bad at shooting.
Also, learn when you need to withdraw. In the past I would suicidally storm the enemy gates and go out in a blaze of glory.. but the good players know when to withdraw, regroup and try something different.
Hope these things help. |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:03:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:V4DOL wrote:100 is the least sensitive in DUST. Backwards from where you would expect. 0 is the most sensitive. hah.. wow, did not know that.. Below are my suggestions from someone familiar with FPS but new to Console FPS. I haven't overcome my dislike for the KBM setup for Dust so these tips are for the DS3. I focused mostly on vehicles, swarm launcher last patch, but have ventured into more direct infantry combat this patch and am finding I'm doing much better.
Weaponry to 5 Don't 1v1 in a scout suit unless you have the jump on someone. I live a lot longer in a Logi suit and an AR. I imagine Assault suits could be similarly good, but I wanted the extra equipment (free SP, and helpful to the team) The AR and SMG are especially good for fighting. Light weapon range extending skill is good (forget the exact name), as is reload and capacity. Make up for the inaccuracy of your thumbs for aiming by strafing to move the target to your crosshair. This has helped me immensely when I'm slightly off in my aim, and clumsy on the sticks. Sensitivity 0 is apparently the most sensitive (repeating this from someone else's post), so this may help if you are running around at 100 thinking you are getting used to the most sensitive settings like I had done. I don't have a suggested sensitivity, but will play with it. Focus on fighting, not objectives. I know this is counter-productive for winning games, and others seem to already do this, but if you want to improve your game, focus on that game. It's hard to divide yourself between a couple things. I know when I'm running around with a Swarm Launcher and have my SMG out, I do much more poorly when I try to dual role. If you want to improve something, focus focus focus. THEN, you can switch between roles you already know, instead of being weak at one. As much as I want to win every pickup game I play, it's more important to improve your skills than get a meaningless victory. Once you get good at fighting, then you can focus on winning. It's hard to win when you are bad at shooting. Also, learn when you need to withdraw. In the past I would suicidally storm the enemy gates and go out in a blaze of glory.. but the good players know when to withdraw, regroup and try something different. Hope these things help. Good suggestions!! +1
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The-Truth02
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:28:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:To OP,
First good job for asking for advice buddy, most players have their egos so large they fail to ask good questions and usually end up just quitting the game.
I highly suggest a mic in this game, team work is a must to get better and it also makes the game more fun to chat with your fellow dust bunnies.
Also as a suggestion, may I give you my build for AR players, it may help.
2 shield extenders, you already have shield regen so I don't personally use more regen of shields but I like to have a lot of shields when I play. In the other slots depending on your CPU/PG you can use a militia armor repair. As armor itself does not repair itself like shields do.
+1 to all the players suggesting to get weaponry up to lvl 5, great suggestion.
Stick to cover, don't be in the open. If you are in the open, you are open to multiple directions of fire coming at you, but if you stay near cover you can take cover when you get fired upon and that gives you time to figure out what direction the fire is coming and also to save your armor/shields for the fire fight.
Move with players, find a few guys stay near them but not in front of them.
Good advice, if you see two players going at each other in a 1vs1 duel, don't be that guy and still a players kill to pad your stats.
If nothing else, please add me to your in game contacts send me a group invite, Ill be glad to chat and play a few rounds and observe your fighting style so I may offer tips.
Stay strong fellow dust bunny, we all were in your shoes at one time, but we stay calm and chived on to get better. Chive On Brother!
All great advice, something I like to do to keep my aim on point, pick a random wall, rock, whatever strikes your fancy, put a bullet hole in it, look off the the side a bit, then practice drawing down on it(Zoom in down sights and get a bead on the bullet hole) the faster you're able to draw down on someone the faster you can start shooting, in close quarters situations being quicker on the draw can mean the difference between life or death |
Tenchu-13
What The French
76
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Posted - 2012.09.13 23:21:00 -
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N00b to N00b, as some will say, then again I don't care what others say as long as they die before I do...
I'm only in the game +-2 weeks myself, and while I am getting the hang of it there was a learning curve. (personally my last fps was something like castle wolvenstein; on dos and I totally sucked at it iirc...)
Alot of good advice has already been given; team up (not necessairy but could be helpfull), take cover and don't fight a battle you can't win (as in don't go running towards a tank with a submachinegun etc.). Also take time to experiment builds if you're not sure what to play or try out some of the builds already mentioned above or in other posts, they are mostly either well balanced or very task specific, but always decent builds.
I can only give you some advice on playing sniper class.
move, take cover, check surroundings, crouch, aim, shoot, kill, get the frak out of there and move to another spot.... then start over.
That's how I decided to go. If you can, try to get 2/3 kills from a 'very' good spot but make sure you check the surroundings when you 'nest' yourself in. Also NEVER stay too long in 1 place, since people like me will first go after the snipers as to secure their surroundings and then go for the infantry kills. I almost never go beyond 3/4 kills but since the game moves quite fast I often move after only 1 or 2 kills. Check your surroundings after every kill and decide if it is safe to take another kill or if it is time to move on.
When there are objectives in play I try to place myself there where I can A) secure an already taken objective by killing appraoching baddies or B) where I can take out as many red dots as possible arround an objective so my team can secure it; whilest I'm still taking out approaching baddies.
Even though some say snipping is easy, and thus for 'N00bs' (seriously ??), imo it actually isn't... but that's something you'll learn soon enough iff you go in that direction.
I can't really give any decent advice about builds, but I could explain mine, just in case it'd help you/ give you ideas.
-dropsuit: dragonfly (from the merc pack, which I do suggest you should buy if you can since it is quite helpfull in the beginning, but not a necessity by far, but there are already enough threads about that subject) -riffle: Farside, but I still haven't tried out some of them, it just feels good for the moment. -sidearm: toxin ID_CD9 (merc pack), but I hardly ever use it, though it could save you more then once... -grenades (just in case you need to 'panic kill' an up-close enemie, throw them all and start shooting (j/k) ..., also handy for LAV's/HAV's (when combined with team's firepower otherwise quite useless in the beginning since they will give away your cover instantly) and grouped baddies. -armor (might help you survive a bullit or 2 if your lucky) - damage modifier (otherwise forget the 1shots against even slightly armored dudes)
I went the droplink route as to 'spawn' into safety and not in an all out firefight.... since that means instadeath in my case unless I can manage to sneak out when the rest is offing eachother... Also very helpfull to deposit on strategic points, and trust me this IS something I see way to little for now. When moving to your next spot, make that small detour and drop 1 near an objective, a strategic point on the map or simply where ever your team could use some help..
It might also be a good idea to take nanohives (ammo) since you will run out of ammo unless there is storage nearby. I decided to go droplink for the reasons mentioned above, some team spirit, some self conservation... in case I run out of ammo I either; A) hope a teammate has hives, B) try to reach an armory or C) when all else fails I get out the peashooter and go after the 1st badguy I see (jk). If I don't die, I'll go for the next (or an armory), if I do die, I'll simply respawn in safety with renewed ammo.... not the most efficient way, but works quite well for me...
As for skills i went for: Sniper riffle operation lvl5 (+dmg) Sniper riffle proficiency (-sway), but for now lvl1 feels good enough Weaponry lvl 5 (+dmg) weapon sharpshooter (+range) weapon capacity (+ammo) electronics lvl 4 + drop uplink deployment Sensor upgrade (better awareness of surroundings) and the rest is kinda all over the place for now just to try things out. (and like i said i`m only in it for like 2 weeks so still building slowly but surely)
Everything mentioned above is just from my personal experience/gameplay, probably by far the most effective, but it works for me and that's the most important.
Well that's enough random blabla; I think my best advice will still be play your own style and 'enjoy yourself'....
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.09.13 23:50:00 -
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The-Truth02 wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:To OP,
First good job for asking for advice buddy, most players have their egos so large they fail to ask good questions and usually end up just quitting the game.
I highly suggest a mic in this game, team work is a must to get better and it also makes the game more fun to chat with your fellow dust bunnies.
Also as a suggestion, may I give you my build for AR players, it may help.
2 shield extenders, you already have shield regen so I don't personally use more regen of shields but I like to have a lot of shields when I play. In the other slots depending on your CPU/PG you can use a militia armor repair. As armor itself does not repair itself like shields do.
+1 to all the players suggesting to get weaponry up to lvl 5, great suggestion.
Stick to cover, don't be in the open. If you are in the open, you are open to multiple directions of fire coming at you, but if you stay near cover you can take cover when you get fired upon and that gives you time to figure out what direction the fire is coming and also to save your armor/shields for the fire fight.
Move with players, find a few guys stay near them but not in front of them.
Good advice, if you see two players going at each other in a 1vs1 duel, don't be that guy and still a players kill to pad your stats.
If nothing else, please add me to your in game contacts send me a group invite, Ill be glad to chat and play a few rounds and observe your fighting style so I may offer tips.
Stay strong fellow dust bunny, we all were in your shoes at one time, but we stay calm and chived on to get better. Chive On Brother! All great advice, something I like to do to keep my aim on point, pick a random wall, rock, whatever strikes your fancy, put a bullet hole in it, look off the the side a bit, then practice drawing down on it(Zoom in down sights and get a bead on the bullet hole) the faster you're able to draw down on someone the faster you can start shooting, in close quarters situations being quicker on the draw can mean the difference between life or death
Yeah KCCO!! best site in the world! You get your shirt today? I always try to throw a KCCO out in my posts to see if I have any fellow Chivers in Dust.
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.14 00:00:00 -
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@Tenchu-13
Dude for just a few weeks of this game, darn good advice.
I might suggest Shield extenders for a sniper with the shield regen 20% increase. Speed IMO is key to a nasty sniper, so no armor as you don't want to add weight. But armor repair and the shield regen those don't add weight. Try it out, just as a suggestion. The rest though, spot on how I would play. |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.09.14 08:20:00 -
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Hey,
More great advice.... thank you all.
I think some of you need to get back on the EvE-O forums as it's missing your kind of (actually) helpful advice. That said, I'm a little better at that game than this one
A quick quesiton about using a headset as this is starting to sound like the single strongest piece of advice. I have a USB headset; can I just plug that into one of the ports (assuming they are USB) that the controllers use?
Also.... do you all use the PS3 controller or are you use keyboards and mice?
Regards
Jax |
Encharrion
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
104
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Posted - 2012.09.14 09:13:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:Hey, More great advice.... thank you all. I think some of you need to get back on the EvE-O forums as it's missing your kind of (actually) helpful advice. That said, I'm a little better at that game than this one A quick quesiton about using a headset as this is starting to sound like the single strongest piece of advice. I have a USB headset; can I just plug that into one of the ports (assuming they are USB) that the controllers use? Also.... do you all use the PS3 controller or are you use keyboards and mice? Regards Jax
Yes, you can plug your USB headset into one of the USB ports in the front of the PS3. I typically switch between the controller and the mouse and keyboard, mouse is a bit easier to aim, but the keyboard controls can be a major pain. Also, due to a hard turn speed cap to prevent mouse users from turning faster than their dropsuit would normally allow, you have to remember to try to move you mouse at the same speed as the cap, any slower and you turn slower, any faster and you fail to turn faster AND cover more space on your desk, requiring you to pick up the mouse and move it back. The dualshock controller is good for playing in a relaxed position, for example, on the couch in front of your tv, or reclining in a chair. |
Encharrion
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
104
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Posted - 2012.09.14 09:23:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:To OP,
First good job for asking for advice buddy, most players have their egos so large they fail to ask good questions and usually end up just quitting the game.
I highly suggest a mic in this game, team work is a must to get better and it also makes the game more fun to chat with your fellow dust bunnies.
Also as a suggestion, may I give you my build for AR players, it may help.
2 shield extenders, you already have shield regen so I don't personally use more regen of shields but I like to have a lot of shields when I play. In the other slots depending on your CPU/PG you can use a militia armor repair. As armor itself does not repair itself like shields do.
+1 to all the players suggesting to get weaponry up to lvl 5, great suggestion.
Stick to cover, don't be in the open. If you are in the open, you are open to multiple directions of fire coming at you, but if you stay near cover you can take cover when you get fired upon and that gives you time to figure out what direction the fire is coming and also to save your armor/shields for the fire fight.
Move with players, find a few guys stay near them but not in front of them.
Good advice, if you see two players going at each other in a 1vs1 duel, don't be that guy and still a players kill to pad your stats.
If nothing else, please add me to your in game contacts send me a group invite, Ill be glad to chat and play a few rounds and observe your fighting style so I may offer tips.
Stay strong fellow dust bunny, we all were in your shoes at one time, but we stay calm and chived on to get better.
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote: Good advice, if you see two players going at each other in a 1vs1 duel, don't be that guy and still a players kill to pad your stats.
I liked your post, except for this bit. I've seen players with no armor left get lucky and knock out players with most of their armor intact. Sure, kill stealing is lame, but you never really know who is going to come out on top, and standing there doing nothing while the enemy kills your team mates is even worse. Other than that, good advice! |
moody mofo
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.09.14 10:43:00 -
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wow, just wow. i dont think i have ever seen a forum actually help someone with good advice. im coming into this from battlefield and those forums are unbelievable ,they are not so nice to noobs ,they will chew you up and spit you out , im new to this game and am looking forward to its release but i know nothing about this game the depth of this game is very overwhelming for a noob like myself so thanks for the good advice you have given the op ,i will profit from the advice also |
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