Normalized suit HP vs Modules vs Skills
'We're talking about reducing direct damage bonsues on weapons now that suits are lower hp this will hopefully make modules more prevaltant, however this is only being discussed atm.'


AV and Suit Hotfix Feedback
'Taking a look into now'

*CCP nothin goes back to work whipping the hamsters back into shape.
Possible hinted other ccp people will be on later tongiht.

k, kinda confused what he means on reducing direct damage bonuses on weapons? weapons gettin lower dmg?

also good to see hes looking into the feedback thread i made on the hotfix. i for one support the suit nerf as it doesnt give such a huge advantage like before but still a decent advantage so newbies can still compete cuz like i said even with the current prices once EVE players can transfer ISK to DUST mercs then those 140K-225K ISK proto suits are chump change and ppl will be able to fund them indefinitely permanently givng the rich a huge advantage rather than a reasonable one

Once prices are lowered on the gear should be all good so its more about player skill than gear

Oh, and is there an option to turn off that awful "BOOOWWWNNN...BOOWN BOOOWN...." music when you are being shot at.

It's bloody hideous.

^^^
Someone should really ask that on the IRC, we asked here but CCP never answered.
It's the mother of all questions IMO.
Though if CCP says "NO" I foresee a massive "abandon ship"

I requested a true ADS like in any FPS.
Guess what happened?

You can have all the skills, stats and perks in the Universe but if the satisfaction of getting a kill is not present this game will die within a few months.

Like it or hate it, Call of Duty is a massively popular franchise for a reason. The gun play and "kill satisfaction" aspects are absolutely nailed to the wall. Yes, it's filled to the brim with lots of garbage like killstreaks and annoying perks but you cannot deny the gun mechanics are top dog.

I truly hope CCP are listening/working on this because I want Dust to be my go to game.

I was talking bout ADS as "I can see my sight "instead then this cheap "the camera just zoomed" system.
FPS do this while Dust does this

P.S.
As for the utility of ADS in KZ 3 there is a ribbon for getting 15 kill aiming from the hip: I got it 23 times and I have 10k+ kills.
This because in FPS Aiming down the sights (ADS) reduce recoil and makes you more accurate then firming from the hip.

killstreaks make that game even though i rarely get one i only get cool ones from care packages lol and quick scope sniper rifles r cheap and not needed since maps r sooo tiny

ive been a COD fan ever since i played MW2 it does play well but i see more of a BF3 or MAG with this

I was talking bout ADS as "I can see my sight "instead then this cheap "the camera just zoomed" system.
FPS do this while Dust does this

P.S.
As for the utility of ADS in KZ 3 there is a ribbon for getting 15 kill aiming from the hip: I got it 23 times and I have 10k+ kills.
This because in FPS Aiming down the sights (ADS) reduce recoil and makes you more accurate then firming from the hip.

Nah, the killstreaks don't make it. If it didn't have a gun mechanics it has you can bet your bottom dollar the servers would be empty.

I'm not really getting at a "which is better" debate. I'm just putting it out there that Dust needs to be on the same level where gunplay is concerned, otherwise I believe it is doomed.

Why not just remove damage bonuses from in-game skills like I/we suggested here.
There are 23 pages of good options/opinions, for both sides, there.

Still no gameplay improvements discussed.
Less emphasis on stats is the right thing to do but even if bonuses from skills gets removed like I wanted it won't save Dust 514 for disappointing as a FPS.

I love this info. I'll have to start formulating questions for you guys. Wait, I do have one...

- In the future, will skills like 'Gallente dropsuits' give bonuses when you use a galente dropsuit like it would in eve?

- Are there plans to show us racial varients to weapons/dropsuits. (IE Minmatar Forge Gun, Amarr Forge gun, etc... and of course minmatar scouts)

- Will there be a character history screen and will it allow us to show our characters as starting in Aug of 2012 or before?

- Will we be able to test new game modes before release?

- Will Caldari continue to dominate start screens like they do in Eve?

Edit: I don't know how to count.

I have five questions:

When will there be laser weapons and turrets??
What about lasers??
When will lasers be an option??
And this next question will be about, wait for it, ahh! did you guess LASERS??
Will we get laser defense turrets/installations??

When will my HAV shoot a cool laser pulse?? like in the story The Israeli - Texas war of 1999??

Why not just remove damage bonuses from in-game skills like I/we suggested here.
There are 23 pages of good options/opinions, for both sides, there.

Still no gameplay improvements discussed.
Less emphasis on stats is the right thing to do but even if bonuses from skills gets removed like I wanted it won't save Dust 514 for disappointing as a FPS.

Yup. Just read around on any gaming forum and the general consensus is: Meh, the shooting mechanics are poor.

If they can't refine the gun play they might as well not bother.

Why not just remove damage bonuses from in-game skills like I/we suggested here.
There are 23 pages of good options/opinions, for both sides, there.

Still no gameplay improvements discussed.
Less emphasis on stats is the right thing to do but even if bonuses from skills gets removed like I wanted it won't save Dust 514 for disappointing as a FPS.

I'd also like to know if there'll be any "battlechat" ala MAG or Battlefield.

Stuff like "They got me pinned down over here!" in BF3. In MAG you would hear soldiers in need of reviving calling out...etc. It was also very , very clear on the HUD who needed healing, what needed repairing and what had been captured.

I feel it adds to the atmosphere. Right now, Dust feels so lifeless and empty.

While I'm here, I'd love if someone could ask if we'll be getting a better ADS view. Really dislike the way looks currently.

The more I think about it, the more I realize MAG was WAY ahead of it's time.

I was talking bout ADS as "I can see my sight "instead then this cheap "the camera just zoomed" system.
FPS do this while Dust does this.

P.S.
As for the utility of ADS in KZ 3 there is a ribbon for getting 15 kill aiming from the hip: I got it 23 times and I have 10k+ kills.
This because in FPS Aiming down the sights (ADS) reduce recoil and makes you more accurate then firming from the hip.


EDITED with better links.

I requested a true ADS like in any FPS.
Guess what happened?

Actually I requested that more then 2 month ago, on these forums.

Don't ask ask CCP anything on IRC.
Don't give them more reason to not use these forums.

iron wolf u remember when at fanfest they said something about a heat map of all the areas people were killed from do they still plan on releasing that?

Most of the things on your list have been posted on these forums time and time again.

For a beta forum it's very poor, with no interaction with the developer and leaving it to people like yourself to pass on and ask questions and information. If your an employee thats different if not it's just plain wrong.

Im not having a go at you Iron Wolf and what you are doing is much aprieciated , but for ccp to say they are busy is not a valid reason not to use there own forum to pass on and get the required information.

Thats my last post for a while as I feel like I'm just moaning for the sake of it

I just want to know when sniper rifles hit detection will be more stable, sometimes hits (mainly the closer shots) just do not register. Half the time I have to play scout assault because sniper rifle is jibbered. Not the greatest strategy.

Another quick question:

When are the "quit game" and the "log out" buttons coming?

Also thanks for doing this IRC thing ~ appreciate it much

1. Is there any plans to improve the heavy dropsuits? the current cost-to-performance ratio is not balanced (i.e. too weak for there prices)
2. Can we have better scoreboards based on points (warpoints maybe?) instead of the current KDR scoreboards?
3. will there be different types of reticles when Aiming Down Sight?
3. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=33998&find=unread

Thanks

Most of the things on your list have been posted on these forums time and time again.

For a beta forum it's very poor, with no interaction with the developer and leaving it to people like yourself to pass on and ask questions and information. If your an employee thats different if not it's just plain wrong.

Im not having a go at you Iron Wolf and what you are doing is much aprieciated , but for ccp to say they are busy is not a valid reason not to use there own forum to pass on and get the required information.

Also many smaller or independant developers move mountains to interact with there testers whilst doing the same as ccp with less staff. For this game to succeed they have to interact with us not just a few and the forum should be there fist place of contact then other ways second.

Thats my last post for a while as I feel like I'm just moaning for the sake of it

Thats okay just I wished they forum posted too, whole reason why I went into irc in the first place, it was like in irc they said this they said that. well now that Im there I felt it should be information not kept then lost in irc, its not like anyone can log into irc and see what they said yesterday.

After hanging out in IRC for a while and seeing the level of interaction the place is extremly informal source of infomration its highly possible for one dev to say one thing and anther dev to say 180* different from befor.

What I am doing is almost no better than what some STAR or ISD voulnteers do but they had training, where I have absolutly no training in this sort of work.

1- Ill have to reword question one a bit to not sound as cynical but it will be asked.
2- already noted and stated before will get confimration but this become low priority question
3- will also ask
4. will highlight this thread to them next session https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=33998&find=unread its really good position and I dont see this not getting attention it deserves.

This fall under hit detection issues which they said we will have to see how the new system works when it goes live next build. they're braging about it quite often... so who knows.

From what I understand is they're going to nerf how much skills effect weapon damage. Ill edit it now clarity.

Are you kidding me?

No mention of gun play?

If they ask "which one?", say "all of them!".

The weapons feel and sound sub par. They only need to read around the net to see how people feel about it.

Personally I think damage bonuses should stay on weapon skills. You could always buy a suit with more slots. I would rather train for damage bonus than buy them.

And they will ask again which one?

Sound is a good start I dont like how the small missile turrets sound like a nerf cannon firing inside a drum and the AR goes tink tink tink like a pellet gun.

Where's the irc chat anyway?

Why's my question about Corp API not on there? :P

Sorry Cerebral the earlier inteviews online suggest that full corp workings wont be in by launch, best we and what IRC has been pressing for is corp lite at launch, which will be name, tag, boss and which side of the FW they're on.

We'll take a look at the list of questions and get back to you guys. I want to get CCP Wolfman's awesomeness involved, since many of the questions are sitting in his turf.

Watch this space.

Lets address not being able to get into every game, or finishing every game that we get into.

Fix the basics first.

I think match making (able to get into every game with a full squad of 4 or by your self) and completing every game is #1 YO

Lets address not being able to get into every game, or finishing every game that we get into.

Fix the basics first.

I think match making (able to get into every game with a full squad of 4 or by your self) and completing every game is #1 YO

Good dodge Nothin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please dont attack devs, evade the profanity filter, and few other various things. Also check your eve mail you should have gotten something from the GM that deleted the post.

Its on thier known issues list, they're very aware of it, IRC have to poke them often and alot to reset the servers.

Just fix it

@ CCP Wolfman

any chance we will see a weapon quickswitch system that is made for KB/M users ? (press button, get different weapon)

oh, and thank you very (very!) much for (FINALLY) answering some questions where they should be answered

I have five questions:

When will there be laser weapons and turrets??
What about lasers??
When will lasers be an option??
And this next question will be about, wait for it, ahh! did you guess LASERS??
Will we get laser defense turrets/installations??

When will my HAV shoot a cool laser pulse?? like in the story The Israeli - Texas war of 1999??

Thanks for the answers nothin and thanks again Iron Wolf for this thread. It's great to see CCP being a bit more active on the forums and have IRC stuff shared with us here.

Also nothin please don't let the less civil beta testers discourage you from continuing to post, many of us greatly appreciate it. Dealing with the instability and bugs is much easier when I see even simple acknowledgement of the problems from a Dev.

Here is my question for future sessions:

In order to avoid connection issues I've began joining squads with a Euro squad leader and having them drag me into the Euro battle servers. On US server 90% of my matches either fail on initializing, randomly boot me to MQ etc etc, but 100% of matches on Euro server have worked perfectly despite me being in the states. Why?

@CCP Wolfman
DS3 layout idea (as requested "Wolfman: I would like to hear some requests for alternate layouts to get a good idea of what people are interested in. ")

R2 - Trigger
R1 - Weapon Wheel/Change Weapon
L2 - Zoom
L1 - Grenade

Leave the rest as is or some combos that include the reversed L/R buttons.

I really just want a selection (not unlike the one on the 'Move' setup menu to simply swap L1/2 & R1/2. I have even tried to build a modified controller so I can do this in hardware. * I really want to swap those buttons! * The one layout that has them swapped also completely changes all the other stuff too and I don't want those changes.

This is awesome feedback, much appreciated and it's good to know that there'll be precise features to test with next build.

Also, on a side note for all to see,

it's spelled RETICULE. Not recitel. Not recitiles. Not reticiles.

Reticules.

must be my surrounding because I never heard anyone calling it

Re-ti-cules

its always been pronounced around me as re-cite-el

I guess similar hold true for others when it comes to turrets.

It was bugging me the whole time I was reading through this thread.

Although I've always seen it spelled "reticle". Both are apparently valid spellings.


I don't mean to offend, but your surrounding is very odd.

A quick google search has shown me that the only word you've been spelling is a poor mans version of recital, as in a dance or music recital.

I think we need to start a sperate thread on this.

Start one up make some reseve posts so we cna bring up the best of the ideas to the front and point it here Ill be sure to point it to the devs when I see em again.

After all the developer is asking, so I say a thread entirely dedicated would be the proper answer.

Post the linke when you make one out and well thought out I currently dont have the time to do it myself.

As requested, please post DS3 layout ideas for CCP Wolfman here

This is awesome feedback, much appreciated and it's good to know that there'll be precise features to test with next build.

Also, on a side note for all to see,

it's spelled RETICULE. Not recitel. Not recitiles. Not reticiles.

Reticules.

Thanks Ill get this to some people to poke at and give my own feelings later after Uni.

There's a memory leak issue on the battle servers that we just discovered a few days ago. Once the memory on the server is capped, battles will start failing to initialize. People are on it, though, and we're hoping to get it resolved quite soon. In the meantime though, feel free to send an email to [email protected] if you see this happen. The GMs should be able to escalate the problem and get someone in operations to reboot the servers.

To why it's happening more on the US servers compared the EU ones, my guess would be that the load on the US servers is higher and hence the problem appears more often. Don't take my word for it though :)

if your doing anthing toward the game industry CCP should give you an internship! at least a chance at one.

Hi guys,

Thanks for the responses and for starting the control config thread, IGÇÖll be keeping an eye on that. IGÇÖll coordinate with the Commander to do some more Q&A soon :-)

CCP Wolfman

Hi guys,

Thanks for the responses and for starting the control config thread, IGÇÖll be keeping an eye on that. IGÇÖll coordinate with the Commander to do some more Q&A soon :-)

CCP Wolfman

Point 5 , if they do go ahead they would have to make it so players just couldn't park a tank or 2 on top of them thus trapping players,or on a slope so they can fire into said trench.

But it could be intresting add a bit more of a tactical approach, worth a try a try I suppose.

Plus did they mention anything else about proper sights for AR's ?