That's the classic rich get richer argument when it comes to rewarding any first place team in a competition with more currency of any sort. The problem with rewarding participation prizes of equal value is that it makes winning meaningless. The problem with rewarding prizes of diminishing value as you work your way down the winners list is it still gives more currency to the already rich, but I think that's probably the best option if you want to promote a feeling of "we want to win" while still keeping it somewhat balanced.

As for the rest of your post, I think you just got unlucky relative to the corporation you're in. If you were in a more active corp, like Villore, for example, matches were filling up within 15-20 seconds of it showing up in the Battle Finder. Also you're more likely to have people who can field tanks, and people who can counter them.



Actually, they did. They said they were stress testing the server. I had more lag in the Corp battles than I've ever had in a regular match, though it still wasn't horrible.

Dude, you are in an npc corp. If you think it will work out good when the game launches you are seriously deluded. There will be 50 k or more players in each npc corp. As far as my corp being organized, my corp isn't even in game yet because CCP hasn't seen fit to include player run corps. Nobody in EVE or DUST gives a **** about npc corps and the only ones that care about the factions are those who do faction warfare. Even they are mostly in player run corps and do ops together rather than a group of randoms.

About the prize or bonus sp and isk to be given, seems to me that giving the sp to just the winners will just further unbalance any future tests of corp battles. They won because of skill and already being able to field better fits, another mill sp will just let them max out something else with the losers never being able to catch up and obtain parity

I quit the last amarr match last night. Why, because when I joined the match we were out numbered with snipers and tanks, including STB-TED, parked as close as they could get to our spawn point. After dying twice trying to get a look around the corners of the buildings I decided f this s*** and quit.

The Amarr won either our first or second match and have lost every other match, usually in a slaughter due to tanks. One match they had a tank sitting in the middle of the road with 2 logistics behind him healing him as he took damage. Managed to kill one and run the other off and the tank withdrew for a minute and then returned and continued the slaughter. The match we won was evenly balanced without all the tanks and we won with a few ticks left on our armor.

I hate losing but I don't mind going 1/8 when I at least get a chance to fight back. I don't like going 0/12 when there is no chance.

Don't know exactly what CCP is testing here because they haven't said. In my opinion these tests aren't very good in that they don't give any type of info except on how hard it is to get into matches with so many people in the corps. Participation from the Templars wasn't what it should have been. There was no communication pre match and no way to do that if you wanted to unless you already have a TS server and were willing to open it up to the randoms in your "corp".

STB seems to have solved the problem of grouping by having all their members sign up for the same faction when they created their chars. There seemed to be 3 or 4 of them in every match against the Amarr and they were usually in tanks or dropships.

Player owner corps will fix some of these problems. Prematch selection of players for the types of fits they can bring would happen. You would have the players you need in the numbers needed or you just wouldn't take the contract. These things can be done on our own personal corp forum .

Dust voice coms seem to be working, at least in the corp matches people were generally on coms. It is hard to tell why almost no one uses coms during the regular matches.

The only currency that really matters in this contest is sp, the isk is irrelevant to the outcome of the matches. Maybe a sports analogy would work here. Lets say a runner wins a race by .5 seconds and as a reward in the next race he will get a 10 meter headstart. Guess which one will win the next race? Awarding sp to only the winning faction will just unbalance any future matches just like my racing analogy.

Why does it matter now? Unless CCP is going to do another wipe before any other tests of corp battles, then the uneven battles will continue and participation will decline because the matches are meaningless except to gain information for the DEVS. I could use a mill sp but I don't have to have them to be competitive. I have 11 or 12 mill isk so I don't really need the mill they are giving away. I participated to test corp battles for the DEVS and for no other reason.

Then why are you commenting in this thread?

My experience:
I had a blast! Playing with and against people who were actually trying to win was a welcome change to the KDR whores that pop up all the time in regular matches.
Since there were only 16 slots per team, you had to be fast to get in. Also, I found out you have to wait for the green light to start queuing, otherwise you would get booted out.
The only problem I noticed was that, after the battles, it was next to impossible to use the Instant Battle. Most of the time I would get a message that 'the battle that you were trying to enter is no longer available'. Other times it would start queuing, but I would end up back in my quarters, with no explanation as to why. On the one occasion that I got in, there were only a few players, 7-4.
Other than the server(?) issue, it was great! I look forward to future Corporate Battles.

I'm sort of getting the picture from the last few pages that the Minmatar vs. Amarr battles were always skewed toward the Minmatar side. Appropriately, the Minmatar players didn't have any problems fighting off the Amarr tanks (which makes sense if the Amarr are grossly outnumbered) while the Minmatar tanks were virtually impenetrable for the Amarr.

This is consistent with my own experience. The worst part about being dominated by Minmatar tanks? Several of them were militia tanks. Once I actually got a couple (militia, after losing a couple AV suits from a mile away) swarms to hit one, its health dropped quickly. I didn't manage to kill it--I was one guy against three tanks, a LAV, and at least one or two snipers, so once I got a swarm off I knew I didn't have much time--but I'm almost sure it was a militia tank. And yet it couldn't be destroyed because we could barely get close enough to it to hit it even once before it ducked behind the landscape.

The map could probably be modified, and AV is definitely out of balance as has been discussed elsewhere, but it seems like the biggest problem hands-down was the lopsided level of participation. I don't know where all the Amarr players were, or whether there were technical issues getting into the battle. Maybe people just don't like to play Amarr.

I'm Amarr, and those Corp vs Corp battles were pathetic. How I came out with a higher k/d ratio is makin' me feel like a genius. From the first 40 seconds of the game almost every flank was completely over-run, and that hill in-front of the main spawn became a tank sniping spot.

It really doesn't help that there tanks completely stomped us. It really made me worry about launch.

It also made me want to delete my Amarr with 5 mil SP to make almost ANYTHING else.

The same reason as MOST repliers, to give feedback to the devs to make the game better. Except for morons like you who think their experience is all that matters, and other people are irrelevant. Sociopathic much?

Never got into a single corp battle. Quit trying after a while.


A thought on the tanks: in the maps with turret launchers and railguns, the sightlines for certain turrets allowed me several tank kills. The issues seem to arise when tanks are allowed on simple team VS team clone reduction campaigns. So either disallow tanks there, or add turret emplacements that constantly change locations, and repair themselves after being blown up by tanks. Ater a suitable pause of course.

I notice you have no problem whining about connectivity issues with the servers in a BETA, which any reasonable person should expect.

I didnt get a chance to participate in the corp battles because of issues.Others are saying that they got skinweave Heavies for participation.From what I read you had to be invited thru your mail on your Neo comm?So no Sp or 1mill Isk or New DS skin for those of us who were not?I kept getting server full msg.

A full run down of the Corporation wins would be nice, I was under the impression from local that we hadn't lost a single match, although there was the one that disconnected everyone as I posted earlier, perhaps there were more of these.

This thread is specifically for the corporate battles. Your post was about an unrelated subject.


I was "whining" about a sudden increase in connectivity issues directly following the corporate battles, "which any reasonable person" would think might be connected.

So your reading comprehension sucks as well. Try reading the first line again. Now parse it. Reference was to the corp battle, ie not being able to log in. 3 posts down is a post stating the same thing - is that person commenting irrelevantly? No

Yes you were whining, about unrelated technical issues, which have been common to the BETA play experience irregardless of copr vs corp battles. I swear some of you posters think so highly of your own opinions that you feel you must police a forum that isn't yours. If you can't add something positive to the discourse, please refrain from imposing your views on others who are participating, you smart-a$$ed couch-potato.