Um I have done got like 4 mil sp in tanks so far and its a blast stomping on lol infantry.

Thinking about this alittle more and reading peeps comments I think my main beef is with the 220k isk tank. Its So much better than the milita but costs hardly anymore yet its epic. The sargris at 1.2 mil might in fact be a little steep considering its not that much better.

And I've spent less than 2 mil on skilling into AV and have just as much fun spreading the ashes of lol tanks everywhere.

Wait until a few more people are skilling into AV, then try to keep telling us tanks are OP.

As someone who has dabbled in tanks and anti tank, I can say they are balanced right now. They cost an extremely hig amount of money, and can be killed by 2-5 shots from a Forge gun or Prototype Launcher, which you definitely need for anti tank. And Im talking about the real Madrugars and Gunloggis. It takes real skill in tanks to time out your module activations, maneauver through tight places, and avoid devestating Turret installations. I think you're just talking out of your ass right now. I recommend you use a tank and then complain. And for the record, in the last build, I was strictly Anti Vehicle Protosuit and Tank/LAV driver.


Also, AV grenades are ROFLSMACKED against tanks. The high end ones are devestating. Skill up or shut up.

And to prove my point, show me the numbers. SP needed to skill into tanks, cost of running tanks and anti tanks, compare those, and also players needed for good tank, vs anti tank. Then

Like I said, I will give you my assessment when I've tried the best gear I can get. If I'm wrong, then all we need is to fix the spawning-among-enemies problem and tanks shouldn't be a problem anymore. (Try losing three suits in a row and see whether you come back in prototype gear.)

Furthermore you can put an advanced forge gun on a militia suit and have nearly the same AV effectiveness at a fraction of the cost. You trim on a tank you save 10% but die 20% more often. You trim on your forge gunner you die twice but didn't lose ISK. If I had put all my skills so far into forges, swarms, or grenades instead of tanks, I guarantee you I would have more ISK and the same or more tank kills.

Tanks and the fittings for them are way to cheep. Already have a stock pile of them and its growing with no sign of it ever depleating.

Tank dirvers have it so easy its crazy so how about a price hike of 20-50%..

Sha karn, i'm tired of being the only one on the map trying to kill you in your tank with my militia heavy and standard forge gun or my militia Soma while your buddy drives along with his tank and shoots me in the back/side/front. but i love when i get a backshot on you with my shotgun =D

biggest issues here are lack of teamwork to cover your AV teammates, everybody is minding his own business trying to kill that guy in front of you while you have a tank decimating your team all around you
the fact that trying to take down a gunnlogi with the aforementioned fitting is pointless. i mean i landed like 4 or 5 shots on you or another tank and not even bringing down it to half shield on several ocasions is not really encouraging to skill for AV.

and somas and sicas are a joke compared to standard tanks cost effective wise
i would like to see them drop in price so it can be fielded a bit more often to respond to a mutliple standard enemy tank invasion

The first thing that has to be done is to increase the earnings. Make them like before the precursor build then more people will choose AV as well as tanks. The price of Militia tanks should be the 300k and standard tanks should cost 600k too so not too many people drive tanks.

Tank earnings last 10 games;

87k
105k
56k (spawned in and was almost over)
96k
135k
82k
122k
65k (again half way thu an ambush)
98k
153k

Easy to spot the Skirm matchs because us tankys get huge isk taking out turrets and everyones in a LAV to get about so easy pickings. Edit: Not to mention shooting down all those bolas or wut ever their called is 150 points for each one and I get loads of them lolz

Granted I not a huge ammount of ambush maps maybe only 50% which was nice.

Also killed a few tanks so helps I guess.

Well that mid level tank of mine sure pays the rent , got heaps of Type 2 hvy suits now and a garage full of dropships, not to mention the rather bling Sagas .

Is this because I'm epic good? NO its not its becuase tanks pay dam well.

All you guys being rofl stomped think this is fair ?

Edit: More I think milita tanks and gear need to be cheeper the mid level tanks 40-60% more expensive and well leave the top end tanks and black ops where its at.

Seems like this would iron everything out nice and the tankys get to keep the OP tank untouched but at a price reflecting how powerful they are.

I've never seen you period and i get similar isk in a militia av fit

4 full hits of a milita swarm launcher kill militia HAV

looks pretty good balanced to me

Noc I respect ya and tend to agree with you on the state of tanks but this statement is pure baloney . And I say this as a dedicated Heavy who specialized in AV in last patch and this one . I can tell you things aren't very cost effective for an AV Heavy due to the range nerf putting him in right in suicidal range of everything making his chance of survival way less than the tank. Using a militia suit makes this even worse as you are way less effective due to lower slots . Thus you spend more time taking more shots in paper-thin (compared to even standard heavy) armor well in range of every red dot around .

Even just paying for the Advanced gun quickly adds up and while tank has a good chance to survive several matches an AV trooper is practically guaranteed to die if tank has even minimal Infantry support . An AV heavy will find himself spending several matches as pure AI if he wants to maintain an effective AV stockpile .

I agree with you that seems about right but thats not the tanks I'm really talking about. Its the next ones up that are cheap yet uber powerful.

Milita: 110k
Standard: 400k
Advanced: 1.1mil
Black ops : lolz

This just seems to make more sense to me.

@ Khun-Al. Yea I dont know whats going on with that have had a few wierd ones myself where pay did not reflect performance.

Well since your done calling people idiots for having an opinion. I'm normaly the squad leader so perhaps thats pulling me in more isk. Other than that I dont see what else I might be doing diff from anyone else.

As for your adv tank yea it might well not be worth it isk wise. Not when you can take the cheep one thats nearly as good. See my point even a little.

I can put my hands up and say yea I might have been wrong about raising the price of em all hell lower the milita and the top end ones but this the basic ones that are outa wack.