I agree. I don't know if the power of sniper rifles is in a good place. They should be buffed a bit. Takes a lot of shots to take down an assualt, and obviously a heavy. It sometimes takes 2 shots to take out a scout.

The only reason people are noticing snipers more now is because the new map most of us play is very sniper friendly. Do you have the same problem on Biomass? Of course not. It's the map.

People need to calm down and actually think about why the game is being played like it is. Certain maps are better for certain classes. That's the way it is. There will be thousdands of maps. Some will be better for assault, some for heavies, some for vehicles, and yes, some for snipers. Get over yourselves and realize that the game shouldn't always favor your class in every single map.

The complaining on these forums should be nerfed.

Patronizing responses really aren't helpful. Yes, we know that if you shoot a sniper enough they die. Yes, if you move and the shot misses you then you don't get hit by a shot. Neither of those things have anything to do with whether the power of sniper rifles is in a good place right now.

First heavies, then swarm launchers, then tanks, now snipers? We might as well nerf the whole game while we are at it. Every build, there is always 'nerf this' and 'nerf that'.

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I don't know why so many people think a sniper round is over powered. The whole concept of being a GOOD sniper can be summed up in a few simple words, "One shot, One KILL!

During Viet Nam regular soldiers fired about 50,000 rounds to achieve one kill. The military snipers fired 1.3 rounds per kill.

So tell me, since we are supposed to be very advanced soldiers, using the most advanced weapons built by the 4 factions, why should it be impossible to get one shot kills if you have the skills and patience to be a good sniper?

I would like to see wind and gravity have an effect on any long range shooting. It would add an additional level of skill to the game in general, as well as making it difficult to hit someone from 500m out.

I agree. I don't know if the power of sniper rifles is in a good place. They should be buffed a bit. Takes a lot of shots to take down an assualt, and obviously a heavy. It sometimes takes 2 shots to take out a scout.

The only reason people are noticing snipers more now is because the new map most of us play is very sniper friendly. Do you have the same problem on Biomass? Of course not. It's the map.

I'm not patronizing you; I was telling you how to avoid being a deer in the cross hairs but if you want to be ignorant and take a bat to the sniper then fine take the blunt instrument approach.

The reason I'm saying snipers need to be toned down is because I am the one doing the sniping. It is painfully easy to get kills using a militia rifle with a mouse to aim with. Once hit detection gets fixed it will only get worse. Sniping is safe, easy, and very lethal with a mouse and even a militia sniper rifle. That needs to change.



Yes, shockingly, this is what it means to be patronizing. Do you imagine you are so far beyond us that you need to tell us to dodge and to fire our gun back at enemies? Do you really think we've never played a FPS game before? Get over yourself, Vassili.

As a sniper then you should know then that newer people dont understand how to dance. Its not patronizing to point out why I am able to briskly make my way up to a sniper perch under fire and kill the sniper 3 out of the 4 times. Its a valid tactic that people like yourself undervalue and view it as "patronizing" when some one points it out.

Have a runner fit; its got stims to run faster, jump more, a smg and grenades thats all you need to root out a sniper. Another fun way is to take and LAV and drive it up to his perch.

I cant count the times a recon or assault fit has run seen me and ran for my position from across the map only to get sniped down by me. And other snipers, I eat them for breakfast.

To be honest your being a bit sensitive on the internet and thats not a good plan.

That's all super amazing and I'm sure everyone is blown away by your ability to give "baby's first FPS" advice, but it's totally separate from the issue of whether sniper rifles are where they need to be right now.

The reason I'm saying snipers need to be toned down is because I am the one doing the sniping. It is painfully easy to get kills using a militia rifle with a mouse to aim with. Once hit detection gets fixed it will only get worse. Sniping is safe, easy, and very lethal with a mouse and even a militia sniper rifle. That needs to change.



Yes, shockingly, this is what it means to be patronizing. Do you imagine you are so far beyond us that you need to tell us to dodge and to fire our gun back at enemies? Do you really think we've never played a FPS game before? Get over yourself, Vassili.

Dude, in rl do you know when there is a sniper in the area? It is when you see the last man in your column drop like a rag doll and then the man in front of him and the next. In rl life, depending on the terrain you never know where the shot came from, there is no red trailer leading you back to the sniper, there is only death. Read Marine Sniper, a book about Carlos Hathcock who was more or less the father or modern snipers/recon. He held the longest shot for around 40 years as well as the record for verified kills. If he had had access to the weapons of today he would have done even better back then.

The presence of a sniper is supposed to instill fear, kill the enemy, deny access to key resources, or to take out a high priority target. 20 m is a long enough space for me to take out a heavy with a forge though it will take 3 shots on average. 20m is enough for an assault if he doesn't zig enough and I can time a headshot. Scouts/snipers are another matter unless they are running toward me or away from me, usually they are sitting still and are easy 1 or 2 shots even at extreme range.

You're a deluded imbecile.
This is a game.

Realism and reality don't have anything in common when talking about games, you stupid idiot.

The only way to do this properly is like somebody say, like PLANETSIDE did. Or get rid of the bullshit 'inaccessible' areas.

I wouldn't mind sniper rifles being removed from the game. Even when somebody on my team goes 15/1 as a sniper I still don't feel they contributed to the team. I'd rather have them be forced not to use them than sigh at those useless blue blobs/chevrons in the hills.

I wouldn't mind if sniper rifles got removed.

Most of the time snipers are not contributing anything towards the objectives.

Hunting down enemy snipers isn't worth the time because moments later they'll respawn and hide in the mountains again.

And I don't care for their kittening KDR. I'd rather have someone with 0.5 KDR and an assault rifle next to me while completing objectives than a sniper somewhere on a mountain top miles away.