The game really needs some ways to combat these snipers other than "get close and kill him" .

Assaults and scouts could really use some infiltrator skills/modules/equips that conceal them from enemy radar when not firing or sprinting. I mean seriously... current system seems way too random and makes the spotting far too easy for snipers in these open maps.

How I take out snipers. Free LAV, smush xD a good LAV can drive up the flat side of a hill if you tell it to, a good pilot can then drop it on them.

In the last build I would rarely get sniped - now it's all the time

Give snipers just 3 bullets per match

The game really needs some ways to combat these snipers other than "get close and kill him" .

Assaults and scouts could really use some infiltrator skills/modules/equips that conceal them from enemy radar when not firing or sprinting. I mean seriously... current system seems way too random and makes the spotting far too easy for snipers in these open maps.

I snipe... and I die...

Seriously... Drop your ass into a scout suit and try sniping sometime... you'll find out how hard it is to get out of harms way fast enough to actually get a few kills in.

When doing objective based maps I will set up where I can watch 1 or more objectives and pick off the guys who wander up alone to hack things.

In this game, Snipers/Scouts also provide you with eyes on the battle field. Every time we zoom in and sight someone, they show up on your radar as one of those red chevrons... if no one's looking, you aren't fed that precious intel.

Recon/Scout/Sniping is tactical support. Sure some of us get decent KD (mine only hovers around 2.0 KDR.. but I run and hack a lot) but I can tell you in a squad that communicates they appreciate being able to call for Accurate fire and have a bullet whiz over their shoulder and take out that heavy bastard that just won't die.

A lot of the advice they give here in this thread is useful.. If you don't want to catch a bullet, then follow their advice... I'll repost my list here, I'm sure other's have covered it as well:

• Don't run in a predictable path - stop short, strafe, jump, and duck....if you run straight, I plot ahead of you, and wait for you to run into my crosshair to send the round.
• Use Cover - Duck under rocks, Buildings, Pipes, vehicles.... it won't always protect you... some of us don't always go for the high perches... but it will save you on some of the maps.
• Counter Snipe - Load up the default scout build, and look for the guy that shot you... even if you don't one-shot them... a bullet to the face of a sniper usually gets us moving...
• Use the Assault Rifle(AR) - damn thing is accurate and has killed me many times, even at a decent distance
• Listen - you can hear the bang of a sniper rifle in your area, only thing that has a slow single report.
• Work as a Team - Teams of moving people are hard to pick off... with the weaker Sniper Rifles you don't get too many one shot kills... and trading out with a heavy on taking damage runs us out of ammo
• Talk to your Snipers - We often have a good idea of how the battle is going, where the hot-spots are and we like to be useful...

Right now we are in the first few days of this round of testing. There are a lot of bugs and glitches that people are working through. A lot of folks are grinding up SP and ISK to move on to what they really want to do.

Give it a couple of weekends and the sniper frenzy should simmer down as people branch out into their specializations. Then people will ***** about the important stuff... like unkillable tanks...and Dropship Whores on Towers... ;)

Bottom line... if you're not having fun, try switching to a different set up, or a different character with different skill sets...

I wouldn't mind sniper rifles being removed from the game. Even when somebody on my team goes 15/1 as a sniper I still don't feel they contributed to the team. I'd rather have them be forced not to use them than sigh at those useless blue blobs/chevrons in the hills.

These large maps do give snipers an advantage, but still sniping is hard. especially at the longer ranges. I've lined up so many shots perfectly and they still miss most of the time. But I still have some learning to do. Not sure how the mechanics work just yet.

Try sniping when proto suits and good gear are back in the game, you couldn't drop a proto assault even with an ishukone and the best damage mods with one hit, hell even proto scouts "tanked" the shots on occasion and never mind proto heavies.

Everyone is running around in militia gear without a clue, stopping to look at the map in the open ...

You people are just jealous that we snipers get plenty of kills from clueless noobs but once they've died enough it's starts getting harder get skills, just like in previous builds where you always knew who was a n00b.
N00b was that guy who stopped running in the open where veterans never stopped moving and always zig zagged and ran in and behind a cover.

Also veterans don't stand still when they get shot, unlike noobs who wonder "oh some one's shooting me, maybe he won't hit if I move just a little bit behind this corner" where they should have ran like a devil was on their heels.

Also sometimes on ambush I've spawned right on a perfect distance from an enemy who instead of starting playing just stands there...
Well sadly for you I'm not giving you any mercy for being a noob and me spawning where I can snipe you right from the start.

Then we have ++ber noobs who get on a top of hill shooting well obviously those guys just beg getting sniped by standing still on a hill top shooting my team mates ...

I short use your brain cells and stop whining at least this isn't cod with those quick scoping ****, OHK every single time sniper rifles.

Really? You sure about that?

Carlos Hathcock: 95 kills verified
Simo H+ñyh+ñ: 505 sniper kills verified before Hathcock was even born.

Pretty sure he's never held that record.

These large maps do give snipers an advantage, but still sniping is hard. especially at the longer ranges. I've lined up so many shots perfectly and they still miss most of the time. But I still have some learning to do. Not sure how the mechanics work just yet.

Yeah, sniping is harder than people give credit for...if you look up this thread people are arguing in both directions about sniping.. I see several "sniping is so EZ an lame, I got so many killz" kinds of posts, then others say "snipers don't contribute anything" which would mean that snipers don't get many kills... you guys can duke it out with each other on whose derisiveness wins.

What I'm looking at is when/if hit detection is ever fixed.. you can be assured that the number of people dying by sniper shot will increase. Because a server-flunked hit has a lot more impact on snipers than any other class in the game. They fire in high powered singles. Half the people who are ranting about poor accuracy with their guns are also ranting against snipers now...

Its like two self-opposing arguments in one topic.

Meanwhile, if you do not find the idea of devoting your entire match to chasing snipers, you will randomly drop dead from snipers you did not see and who you had no way of fighting even if you did see them.

The solution isn't play tactics or new equipment. Sniper rifles are too strong right now. Especially with KB+M. It is a joke how easily I can get kills with a militia sniper rifle and essentially no sniper skills, because all it takes is one headshot or two body shots and you're down. That isn't fun for anyone. I don't want to see the game diminished so much by something like sniping.

Without damage mods i got ohks like nothing

Meanwhile, if you do not find the idea of devoting your entire match to chasing snipers, you will randomly drop dead from snipers you did not see and who you had no way of fighting even if you did see them.

The solution isn't play tactics or new equipment. Sniper rifles are too strong right now. Especially with KB+M. It is a joke how easily I can get kills with a militia sniper rifle and essentially no sniper skills, because all it takes is one headshot or two body shots and you're down. That isn't fun for anyone. I don't want to see the game diminished so much by something like sniping.