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WT Sherman
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.19 14:20:00 -
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With sp and isk the way they are now, you have to specilize and I chose to train for a sniper. Yes, some of the maps are good for snipers but it is not all good. Those ambush maps where you spawn inside a complex make a sniper almost useless. Even then I won't field a militia assault fit because I can contribute more if I can get outside and only die twice before making it and end up getting 1 or 2 kills. I suck with a militia assault and while I might get 2 or 3 kills I would die 6 or 8 times. In assault it is more important to not die than to get a kill.
Snipers role on the larger maps is to use their speed to get to and hack control points and supply depots. After hacking you then look for the perches that will allow you to help protect the control points. This is work and not easy as I'm sure you know. The terrain is very difficult and you often get stuck on grades that you really should be able to move over easily, lots of dead ends and lots of times when you have to jump over the cliff because you are now trapped by hostiles
One of a snipers main roles is counter-sniper. If you are getting killed by snipers, then you need a couple good ones on your side to even the match. When snipers get hit by other snipers, they tend to spend their time looking for them rather than looking at the rest of the battlefield. I know I don't rest and don't forget till I can return the favor by picking him off from a new hide or running up behind him with my smg. |
WT Sherman
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.08.19 15:29:00 -
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Dude, in rl do you know when there is a sniper in the area? It is when you see the last man in your column drop like a rag doll and then the man in front of him and the next. In rl life, depending on the terrain you never know where the shot came from, there is no red trailer leading you back to the sniper, there is only death. Read Marine Sniper, a book about Carlos Hathcock who was more or less the father or modern snipers/recon. He held the longest shot for around 40 years as well as the record for verified kills. If he had had access to the weapons of today he would have done even better back then.
The presence of a sniper is supposed to instill fear, kill the enemy, deny access to key resources, or to take out a high priority target. 20 m is a long enough space for me to take out a heavy with a forge though it will take 3 shots on average. 20m is enough for an assault if he doesn't zig enough and I can time a headshot. Scouts/snipers are another matter unless they are running toward me or away from me, usually they are sitting still and are easy 1 or 2 shots even at extreme range. |
WT Sherman
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.08.19 21:34:00 -
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From what ccp has been saying, we don't have all of our equipment yet. My title should really be scout/sniper because once I am able to equip sensor boosters, I will be able to spot more hostiles and my team will know where they are. No one is doing it right now but you would also deploy uplinks for your team in the ambush maps so you will be able to spawn your team together instead of all over the map. Up links and maybe a hacking mod because I like to be the first to the nearest control point and then loop around to the other side of the map to get the back one and set up an overwatch on it for a few easy kills. |
WT Sherman
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:59:00 -
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D'Finn, you don't have the patience to kill me. I do die a lot, most often when someone I have killed sneaks up behind me with a shotgun. I don't blame them, my fault for being greedy and staying in a good hide too long.
Been a very long time since I looked at the sniper lists and I have to agree that Simo was probably the best. It depends on which list you look at some have Carlos first and Simo second, others have it switched.
Carlos did have most confirmed kills for an American for a while but was out scored by another marine.
In 1967 Carlos set the record for longest combat confirmed shot at 2500 yards using an M2 50 cal browning machine gun for which he had built a mount for a scope. That was beaten by a group of Canadian snipers in 2002 in Afghanistan. He was the first to use the .50 cal and is the reason that they are used in high tech sniper rifles today. In rl I prefer the same round he used most of the time in Nam, a 30.06 springfield blot action with a monte carlo stock and a lightened trigger.
My best kills to date were saturday and sunday. First was 4 snipers using the same platform to snipe from. They had a nice set up with nano hives up and running unfortunately for them I knew where there were two overlooks for their spot. I killed all 4 before they figured out where I was. Moved to the other overlook and killed 2 of them when they came back to hunt me. LOL
Guys when you get sniped don't ask the logi to res you. I killed the same guy 4 times and then killed his logi helper when he finally died for good. Now I really did laugh out loud when that happened. Guess they thought they were safe in that little alleyway between the buildings. |
WT Sherman
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:39:00 -
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I don't know why so many people think a sniper round is over powered. The whole concept of being a GOOD sniper can be summed up in a few simple words, "One shot, One KILL!
During Viet Nam regular soldiers fired about 50,000 rounds to achieve one kill. The military snipers fired 1.3 rounds per kill.
So tell me, since we are supposed to be very advanced soldiers, using the most advanced weapons built by the 4 factions, why should it be impossible to get one shot kills if you have the skills and patience to be a good sniper? |
WT Sherman
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:52:00 -
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Ah but you are forgetting that the tech that designed your drop suit is also the one who designed my sniper rifle with the sole purpose of getting one shot kills against light and medium armor. Occasionally I'll get a one shot kill on a heavy but usually that is when he has already been engaged and damaged. I love being able to see how much shield and armor you guys have as you race across the ground in groups. Guess which one I shoot first? |
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