I dont have any good guns, any good dropsuits or modules, and everything is so expensive. Now b4 people start telling me that im cryin and whinin, your probably not doing as well as I am either. I like how their tryin to keep things challenging, but compared to the last build, things cost wise were way more fun. isn't tht the point of playing video games? what's so fun about not being able to afford anything good, usin weak militia gear. The game's gotten a lot better frm last build, graphics, map size, more fair gameplay - but we can't rlly experience it without some good equipment! If this games gonna be released to PS plus subscribers and eventually to all of playstation, some stuff need some serious work, and to start we need to lower prices on EVERY ITEM.

I remember reading some dev post about how SP are primary accrued over time like they are in Eve. The bonus at the end of matches is just a little bonus. This way the people who play all day every day aren't light years ahead of everyone else.

link?

I dont have any good guns, any good dropsuits or modules, and everything is so expensive. Now b4 people start telling me that im cryin and whinin, your probably not doing as well as I am either. I like how their tryin to keep things challenging, but compared to the last build, things cost wise were way more fun. isn't tht the point of playing video games? what's so fun about not being able to afford anything good, usin weak militia gear. The game's gotten a lot better frm last build, graphics, map size, more fair gameplay - but we can't rlly experience it without some good equipment! If this games gonna be released to PS plus subscribers and eventually to all of playstation, some stuff need some serious work, and to start we need to lower prices on EVERY ITEM.

Dont worry deep end of the pool is comming soon as they add more planets.

Nope.

Last build, things were handed to everyone with minimal effort.

This time around, you actually HAVE to specialise to get anywhere. So do that. SPECIALISE. Focus on a SPECIFIC loadout - maybe two - and build that up effectively.

the way i look at it, we're playing in the kiddie pool right now.

the kiddie pool should NOT pay enough isk to support high end gear. that way newer players will have a place to learn how to swim.

so really what we should be asking for is a bigger pool, that pays more phat loot. you know, another mode.

kinda pushes you to use aurum to speed things up...

Just play more. Games with instant gratification are nearly always short-lived because there is no effort or reward.

I dont have any good guns, any good dropsuits or modules, and everything is so expensive. Now b4 people start telling me that im cryin and whinin, your probably not doing as well as I am either. I like how their tryin to keep things challenging, but compared to the last build, things cost wise were way more fun. isn't tht the point of playing video games? what's so fun about not being able to afford anything good, usin weak militia gear. The game's gotten a lot better frm last build, graphics, map size, more fair gameplay - but we can't rlly experience it without some good equipment! If this games gonna be released to PS plus subscribers and eventually to all of playstation, some stuff need some serious work, and to start we need to lower prices on EVERY ITEM.

have not purchased a single item from market.
i have not used anything other than standard millita gear 24/7
all the assets i own are either free from start or are salvage/loot i have been given.

since the wipe i have made 1.2m isk

this is where eve players have a upper hand, we know isk = weapons = more isk = profit = one big fat wallet.

Explain to me then, why CoD is releasing its 9th edition this year?

Just some advice, if you do get into better gear quickly it is much easier to get more kills, because your suit can take more damage, therefore getting more kills and much more isk .

So my advice is to not stay in paper thin armor militia gear. Even a better gun takes people out quicker.

So all those who are talking about staying in militia gear and not getting out of it quickly, I thank you for your donation

Teir 1 suit militia mods and teir2 weapon

1.8 isk in my wallet with 50 suits ready for battle.

What they did wrong was bringing up the prices and lowering our ISK earnings at the same times. Before I used to get on average about 200k ISK now I only earn about 50k ISK per game. They should have kept the prices and lowered the ISK earned, not both.

....boobs will hang out and level up. To support higher gear you need to start running in factional warfare. Null sec, maybe even wormholes .

Wormholes? First I heard that.... Worrmhole systems will be available for planetside battles?

L8r,
FH

CCP has deviously in a rather sinister way, dodged that question. Which means they have something very nasty in store for us in WH space.

Isn't that why they are releasing their 9th edition. They have to cause the game only lasts 1 year. People would get bored and stop playing if they didn't release another "New" game every year.

BRING ON THE SLEEPERS!

Explain to me then, why CoD is releasing its 9th edition this year?

OHGODOHGODOHGODOHGODOHGOD

I'm broke now, but if we kill 1 sleeper, MILLIONS worth in salvage alone!

I'll address the costs from the 'eve contractor' POV, which is where we wish it was going to be eventually.

I am going to assume here, that targets are rarely going to be a 'single' map, and that we will need to take multiple districts/objectives over the course of a night, so I'm going to assume almost constant gameplay.

I'm also basing a full proto suit at about 4-500k, and estimating that normal losses are going to be about 4-5 per person on average; if you're playing against people with full proto's, I'd expect most frontliners to be losing this many at least; maybe logi's and snipers will lose less, but it's all about how it goes.

A 16 man team with the best gear, you're looking at probably 2m isk per person, per match. Each round will want a series of vehicles too, so call that another 20m in vehicles per match. You're not going to use low end gear, if you're supposed to be paid to do the job.
Now consider there's going to be a 'basic cost' for the war contract itself; you've got war barges to pay for, installations, the clones themselves, the installations, transportation etc.

You're looking at 50m in costs per 20-30 minutes per team, at minimum excluding basic costs for matches.

Now assuming we get a proper turnover of players in dust to match other FPS's, you're looking at up to 10,000 players online at a time. Assume half of those are going to be grinding in militia gear in high sec, and half of what's left is going to be in 0.0;

A little napkin math, shows that there could be up to 150 0.0 battles going on at any time, with an estimated cost of 8bn isk per half hour.

Some recent figures suggest that TEST, who currently own probably the largest amount of space in the game for a single entity, are currently spending more than they earn, and will be bankrupt inside of 3 moths.

Even if my numbers are wrong by half, that's 4bn isk per half hour.

0.0 cannot sustain that sort of spending without breaking the entire eve economy.

So, when I say I think costs are too high, I don't just mean for now, I mean that they are too high overall.

The fact that a single suit for a mercenary is costing almost as much as a spaceship sums it all up to me. This should NEVER be the case; no matter how hard you try, no soldier's gear should cost as much as a spaceship.