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WhatszGudDawg
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
48
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Posted - 2012.08.18 18:50:00 -
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I dont have any good guns, any good dropsuits or modules, and everything is so expensive. Now b4 people start telling me that im cryin and whinin, your probably not doing as well as I am either. I like how their tryin to keep things challenging, but compared to the last build, things cost wise were way more fun. isn't tht the point of playing video games? what's so fun about not being able to afford anything good, usin weak militia gear. The game's gotten a lot better frm last build, graphics, map size, more fair gameplay - but we can't rlly experience it without some good equipment! If this games gonna be released to PS plus subscribers and eventually to all of playstation, some stuff need some serious work, and to start we need to lower prices on EVERY ITEM. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.08.18 18:57:00 -
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the way i look at it, we're playing in the kiddie pool right now.
the kiddie pool should NOT pay enough isk to support high end gear. that way newer players will have a place to learn how to swim.
so really what we should be asking for is a bigger pool, that pays more phat loot. you know, another mode. |
Darkz azurr
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2012.08.18 18:58:00 -
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my money is going on skillbooks, i got no problem rocking my militia guy for a bit. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.18 18:58:00 -
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Nope.
Last build, things were handed to everyone with minimal effort.
This time around, you actually HAVE to specialise to get anywhere. So do that. SPECIALISE. Focus on a SPECIFIC loadout - maybe two - and build that up effectively. |
Eternal Monsoon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:01:00 -
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Just play more. Games with instant gratification are nearly always short-lived because there is no effort or reward. |
Anuliadon Gortusk
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:01:00 -
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i got 950k haha i role assault rifle with all miltia seems to be the case with most |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:01:00 -
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nearly all my isk goes towards skillbooks, aside from the occasional non-militia weapon. |
MofaceKilla
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:03:00 -
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I'm poor as ****!
And I think everyone is in the same boat unless they've been playing straight since last night (Which is highly doubt anyone has the patience for with the freezing problems almost half the time)
My question is, what is so wrong with militia gear? We're all using it, anyone can compete with it. I don't understand the problem. Yea the expensive stuff is more fun, but it'll be that much more rewarding to unlock and use it when it takes forever to get it. Also it'll be that much more devastating to lose once you get it, might as well get used to this militia stuff cuz your eventually going to go full circle and find yourself losing profits. It's inevitable unless you go 10/0 consistently. In which case I say to you, quit being selfish and take 1 for the team. |
WhatszGudDawg
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
48
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:03:00 -
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I see, it makes more sense to specialize it some suits, I'd prob focus on assault,heavy, maybe logi (but i suck at it :P)
Guess things r only gonna get worse b4 they get better  |
Mr Funless
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
191
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:10:00 -
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working as intended |
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RAS Actual
Black Tengu Corporation
38
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:10:00 -
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i'm feeling the crunch too. it's not so much an ISK problem for me. but has anyone noticed they're being stingy with the SP? scant pickins. if i get a bunch of hacks and kill assists and a pos. k/d (not something i care about in any capacity other than economics), they need to cut me a chunk off some of those SP.
DON'T BE SCANTLIN' WITH US CCP, WE'S HAWNGRY! |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:32:00 -
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Dont worry deep end of the pool is comming soon as they add more planets. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:34:00 -
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It's hard to be invested when there is no downside to losing. Wtf.
The winning side should get a 100% increase bonus in isk. You still have to earn isk but the better you do the better the bonus. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:38:00 -
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militia gear should always be viable. It's great how your core skills have a huge impact on what you can fit to cheap dropsuits. It's like flying a rigged in eve, its still useful just not as useful as tech 2. I hope our beefy beta gear will give a great advantage in a game where you can jump in the kiddie pool Romans isk at no risk. Or you can risk better gear in low sec for better rewards. |
Stefan Jacobs
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:39:00 -
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I too am broke, though it is my fault. I set up a fit using the assault rifle, and after using it a few times, I went to restock, didn't realize the system had changed and so spent most of my money. I now have around 80 assault rifles. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:41:00 -
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I'm at about 5mil isk in assets, including 5 Eryx, . Not sure what I'm going to do with them, since I had no plans to train dropships at all, let alone top tier. Just under million in cash, spent about that in skill books so far.
Correction, on checking I have over million isk. Don't try using gear you can't afford yet and/or is to good for mission. Some of the gear is meant for special occasions, rare elite that don't die much, or when Somebody is paying you to guard take something very expensive. Like the space elevator for a planet. |
TheAzureDragon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:45:00 -
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Militia gear isn't all that weak actually (for me at least)
playing as a logi, who's all squishy and weak, i only get 1-3 deaths a game while being on the frontlines. I guess it just depends on the person/what skills you've invested in? |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:46:00 -
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yes... this is the poor build lol |
Arbor Viridanus
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:46:00 -
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I'm not having any problems getting kills with my Militia Logi gear.
I would like to see a SMALL increase in ISK rewards, though. Enough so that people can run Standard gear on a semi-regular basis, but not enough that everyone's running around in full Proto. |
Diabolus Tenebran
Ashton Technologies
Aerodyne Collective
0
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Posted - 2012.08.18 19:49:00 -
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I remember reading some dev post about how SP are primary accrued over time like they are in Eve. The bonus at the end of matches is just a little bonus. This way the people who play all day every day aren't light years ahead of everyone else. |
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Altman Stormsinger
Doomheim
16
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:00:00 -
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militia gear plus a tier one rifle is just fine for me right now.
we just have to remember that right now every single merc out there is more or less unemployed. once eve integration lets us get contracts/ form corps the cash flow problem shouldn't be much of an issue. all you need to do is demonstate you can be an asset and some rich pilot will buy you a bunch of proto gear to gaurd/take a planet. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:01:00 -
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i'm sure i'll have problems soon but not experiencing it yet.. was having fun in militia fighting other militias..
that said i'm in freakn love with AV nades i think i know where a but load of isk is going |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:08:00 -
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WhatszGudDawg wrote:I dont have any good guns, any good dropsuits or modules, and everything is so expensive. Now b4 people start telling me that im cryin and whinin, your probably not doing as well as I am either. I like how their tryin to keep things challenging, but compared to the last build, things cost wise were way more fun. isn't tht the point of playing video games? what's so fun about not being able to afford anything good, usin weak militia gear. The game's gotten a lot better frm last build, graphics, map size, more fair gameplay - but we can't rlly experience it without some good equipment! If this games gonna be released to PS plus subscribers and eventually to all of playstation, some stuff need some serious work, and to start we need to lower prices on EVERY ITEM.
The thing is that despite the fact you only have militia gear......so does the majority of other players. The high end drop suits/vehicles etc are meant to be brought out when you really need them.
The whole point of everything being expensive (especially vehicles) is so there's no spamming (dropships ring a bell?) and because you risk losing alot of money if you bring out the expensive gear for every game.
Also, where is the fun in getting all the good gear within a month of playing? (I unlocked everything in bf3 in just under one month, and the game lost its appeal, I had nothing to work for), now that everything is pricey.....it gives you a goal, something to work for, something to look forward to, and when you finally get that one asset you really want.....you get a sense of achievement, and the game never gets old. Because we all know that in video games.....once all content has been unlocked and you've done everything you can in the game.....there's no replay value.
Stick with militia gear and vehicles, equip vehicles and dropsuits with militia modules, equip dropsuits with militia guns, build up your isk to a satisfactory balance, repair/hack/revive/resupply to build up your isk, you don't need to kill to get isk/sp. Think inside the box bro. |
Hehaw Jimbo
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:09:00 -
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I like the current prices much better. Having everyone spam proto gear and marauders last build at very little cost got old really fast. |
Chimeric BlackProphet
Immobile Infantry
4
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:25:00 -
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Diabolus Tenebran wrote:I remember reading some dev post about how SP are primary accrued over time like they are in Eve. The bonus at the end of matches is just a little bonus. This way the people who play all day every day aren't light years ahead of everyone else.
link? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:36:00 -
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Chimeric BlackProphet wrote:Diabolus Tenebran wrote:I remember reading some dev post about how SP are primary accrued over time like they are in Eve. The bonus at the end of matches is just a little bonus. This way the people who play all day every day aren't light years ahead of everyone else. link?
There have been heaps of sources mentioning passive skill gains.
I'll see if I can find a few tomorrow, unless someone's beaten me to it, but they shouldn't be too hard to search up on the forums. |
thereal herbzula
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:38:00 -
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Its a damn grind now lol |
Galactus VI
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.08.18 20:45:00 -
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Im glad things now cost more, it means the maps aint flooded with ships landing on people, and it really means something to get your next level suit or your next level armour.
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Trinity Ashima
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.08.18 21:00:00 -
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WhatszGudDawg wrote:I dont have any good guns, any good dropsuits or modules, and everything is so expensive. Now b4 people start telling me that im cryin and whinin, your probably not doing as well as I am either. I like how their tryin to keep things challenging, but compared to the last build, things cost wise were way more fun. isn't tht the point of playing video games? what's so fun about not being able to afford anything good, usin weak militia gear. The game's gotten a lot better frm last build, graphics, map size, more fair gameplay - but we can't rlly experience it without some good equipment! If this games gonna be released to PS plus subscribers and eventually to all of playstation, some stuff need some serious work, and to start we need to lower prices on EVERY ITEM.
The game is designed to punish you for dying. When you die everything you had is lost with the clone you were using. If you want to keep your stuff either get shot less or learn to call for logistics to revive you. In eve players lose millions in one bad move if they're not smart, sometimes billion... then another few million or billion in implants if their pod is killed too. Then have to pay millions for a new clone so they don't lose skillpoints next tiem you die. Think of it this way, you're not paying millions for clones each time you die so count your blessings. New Eden is unforgiving and that's where you are, DUST is not a seperate game from EVE, they operate and interface with each other. If you want to keep your gear die less. It's not rocket science. |
Talaryes
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
8
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Posted - 2012.08.18 22:35:00 -
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And dont forget, we have a tremendous amount of isk coming innfrom Eve players once the link to them is open and iske can flow freely both ways. All that money has to be absorbed somewhere and the prices of our gear will need to match to avoid an over-supply, from CCP' view. |
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