5. Going to war with another corp would take billions upon billions of ISK right? So isn't it conceivable that some corps (not all) might take a different route? I don't know like sending their best players into the arena battle to face the other corps best players, sure would be more cost effective

This will never happen with any "major" Alliance/Corp in Eve. No one resolves territorial or diplomatic conflicts with a 1v1 or even 15v15. It is more like 40k vs 20k.

Many of the big Alliances have Trillions of isk and routinely throw large fleets of ships around that take 90 days (real time) to make and cost 80-100 Billion (each).

Sorry if I turned this into a kb&m thread, wasnt my intention, and I understand that eve is on another level of dedication. I wouldn't be here if I didn't want more outta my fps, truly excited about where things are headed. if this game does lead me to eve than more power to ccp.

The same way the PSP is not the PS3, even though their connected. Basically what I'm saying is, I'm a merc, my friend is a capsuleer, that even though we play in the New Eden universe, he plays eve and I play dust. I'm not playing eve on my ps3, and he's not playing Dust on his PC, and neither of us exist in the superior plain of existence in which we all are apart of a hivemind. It makes absolute sense. Just because me and a chimp are both primates, doesn't mean I live in trees.

but EVE and Dust are way more connected than a ps3 and psp lol

I can play games for my psp on PS3, and vice versa, watch videos stored on my PS3 on a PSP, or stream music. I'd say the PSP-PS3 is more connected than EvE-DUST.

then you fundamentally dont understand how the EVE-Dust connection works.

The same way the PSP is not the PS3, even though their connected. Basically what I'm saying is, I'm a merc, my friend is a capsuleer, that even though we play in the New Eden universe, he plays eve and I play dust. I'm not playing eve on my ps3, and he's not playing Dust on his PC, and neither of us exist in the superior plain of existence in which we all are apart of a hivemind. It makes absolute sense. Just because me and a chimp are both primates, doesn't mean I live in trees.

And you don't understand how PSP-PS3 connectivity works. Being able to play the complete game of one console on another is a bit more than checking ones email. As for me not understanding the EVE dust connection works. Your right, I don't. It, as of now, doesn't exist. I understand how it is hypothetically going to work, and far more than the fundementals. Like I said,



To simply state that dust is eve, and eve is dust, is false.

ill agree with you there

what i was saying was simply that they arent in some "alternate sphere" or anything like that where they are two different games with a similar backdrop and some cosmetic link. They are the same game, with events in EVE directly linking to Dust. If an EVE corp beats the **** out of someone, that has happened in Dust.

But no, they are not carbon copies where you can play dust on pc or EVE on ps3 like you seem to have thought i was saying, and i apologize if i was unclear.

basically, anybody who has played any kind of fps on a pc will agree that the mouse is simply better for aiming. It is was faster and more accurate since its basically point and click rather than using a joystick......

Not everyone is good at using analog controls, but there are very few people who cant point and click....anybody who uses a computer knows how to point and click lol, there no fumbling with your aim when your surfing the internet and your trying to click links and buttons.

I've made statements along the lines of "The players using KBM will be the hardcore players in Null-sec, and the players using the DS3 will be the casual players in Hi-sec." Some DS3 users have taken offense to this, thinking I am giving them no credit for being good with the control style of their choice.

But let me elaborate on the differences between a casual player, and a hardcore player, New Eden style vs. CoD/BF/MAG style.

In the current console shooters, a casual player is probably someone who logs on, doesn't really try to hard, and just enjoys the game - win or lose. A hardcore player would be someone who logs on, does everything they can to win, and is conscious of their rankings on the leader board. This is probably a rather general description, but I'm sure you catch my drift.

Now, it is a little different with how New Eden works. A "casual" player in Dust, could just as well be called a hardcore player in another game, because the type of game is very different. Now, the reason for this is that Hi-sec will play very much like CoD/BF/MAG, in the sense that you will log on, queue up in matchmaking, play a match, and repeat. There will be leader boards, and probably some type of ranking system. Hardcore players in the current shooters will probably find their home here, if they want to have similar gameplay that they find in other currently popular games. There will probably be "hardcore" players and "casual" players within this area, as defined in other games, but to those that play in Null-sec, you will all be considered casual.

Why is that you may ask? Well, in Null-sec, there will be politics, there will be wars - very literally - there will be an economy to secure and keep stable, you will have to protect your planets, and your systems. There is much more to it, than just queueing up for a match.

If you are running a corporation, you will have to decide how much to tax your underlings, you will have to manage alliances, and keep your people happy. You will have to decide how much to pay the people in your corporation, and how much you are willing to pay to hire mercenaries. Also, running a corporation in Null-sec will be different than in Hi-sec, as you will now be able have assets worth much, much more - ie. planets, jump gates, and stations. And the politics will be a bit different as well.

And with all that, I say that the players in Null-sec, will most likely all be using KBM, as I don't think it would be very easy to manage all of these things, with a simple gamepad. If you have to discuss the terms of your alliance with another corporation, I don't think you'll want to be in several hours of negotiation, typing on a virtual keyboard with your DS3. If you have to manage all of your items on the market, and determine what to produce and how to price it, I don't think you will want to navigate the neocom and do research with your DS3. And as far as battles go, if you want to have every advantage that you can have over your enemy, I don't think you'll want to use your DS3.

This is what I mean by hardcore players will use KBM, and casual players will use the DS3. I'm not saying that all players currently on the PS3 don't care very much about the games they play, or that they are bad, or anything like that. I'm saying that they will find their home away from Null-sec. I'm saying that they wont be with the players that are always using KBM. They will find their home with the type of gameplay that suits them, and I'm sure they'll enjoy it very much. I think Dust 514 will give all types of players a home that suits them.

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