DUST Search - [graphics and gameplay are bad in the beta]

Mo Gallas Gentralde wrote:

Vicx V wrote:

this game will fail within months of release. The ONLY thing that'll keep this game alive in the long term is the fact that it's free

You just said "This game will fail, because it will succeed." If a game stays alive, it's economically sound. If a game is economically sound, that means it has succeeded.

Vicx V wrote:

I was SO excited about this for months, I thought it would combine MAG and Battlefield into one epic game, best of all it would be free so there'd never be a lack of players.. but after a few hours of really trying to like this game, it fails miserably. I LOVE the depth of the dropsuit customization system, the market place and all the other details that allow you to customize your character to your needs, the MMO influence from Eve Online really shows in this regard.. but at the end of the day it's the gameplay that completely and utterly ******* SUCKS! It feels like an extremely budget version of MAG and Section 8 Prejudice combined, except it feels even MORE cheap and budget (in fact I feel like getting back into both of those games right now)

I sincerely wanted this game to conquer and succeed, but the fact is the gameplay just ain't fun.. although it has the scope and potential to be, it SO does! that's why I'm so genuinely disappointed.

So from me, goodbye and good riddance.

Definition of BETA: You ask other people to test things REPETITIVELY so you can figure out what is broken or needs to be changed.

You're basically telling everyone here that you came and "didn't want to test things repetitively". Why in the world did you sign up for a BETA then? Seriously? You're complaining that YOU chose to do something. We are not being given everything at once, because they need a good quantity of data on the items they give us before they drop a new one on the field. That means we're going to be doing the same things over... and over... and over again.

It's kind of like volunteering to work at a Zoo, then breaking down hysterically because there are too many people around you pointing at animals.


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Vicx V Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2012.07.29 14:03:00 - [1] - Quote I was SO excited about this for months, I thought it would combine MAG and Battlefield into one epic game, best of all it would be free so there'd never be a lack of players.. but after a few hours of really trying to like this game, it fails miserably. I LOVE the depth of the dropsuit customization system, the market place and all the other details that allow you to customize your character to your needs, the MMO influence from Eve Online really shows in this regard.. but at the end of the day it's the gameplay that completely and utterly ******* SUCKS! It feels like an extremely budget version of MAG and Section 8 Prejudice combined, except it feels even MORE cheap and budget (in fact I feel like getting back into both of those games right now) The incredibly BLAND graphics, the lag, the multitude of weapons that all end up being small variations of eachother and all look and feel pretty much the same with minor RoF and damage attributes.. I could go on, but my point is, regardless of all the attention to detail in the customization, the game itself just simply licks the sweat off a dead donkey's dry salty ballsack. It's no wonder they're charging $20 for the Mercenary Pack, because that's the most money they'll be able to extract from people who've yet to play the game. A majority of people will end up disgusted and only a small minority, even smaller than the niche gamers in MAG and S8P will stick with this game simply due to it being a free game and possibly out of pure boredom. Once the final product releases on PSN, people will download, try it out and most will never touch it again. That's the single biggest reason they released the Mercenary pack, to milk all the eager and optimistic and people who like me, think this game has huge potential. Unless the gameplay is seriously overhalled FROM SCRATCH, this game will fail within months of release. The ONLY thing that'll keep this game alive in the long term is the fact that it's free, which will entice the players with the absolute lowest of standards and that market alone. I sincerely wanted this game to conquer and succeed, but the fact is the gameplay just ain't fun.. although it has the scope and potential to be, it SO does! that's why I'm so genuinely disappointed. So from me, goodbye and good riddance.
Vicx V Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2012.07.29 14:29:00 - [2] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: /facepalm Seriously what do you people think the whole point of testing is ?!!!!! Garrett Blacknova wrote: You're right! There's no way this OBVIOUS AND CLEARLY LABELED WORK IN PROGRESS can compete with AAA titles in its current state! If I didn't know better, I'd almost suspect we're not playing the final release version of the game... OH WAIT. Obama DAT wrote: WORK IN PROGRESS CLAP ClAP CLAP YES! 'clap clap clap' yourselves for reacting emotionally like butthurt fanboys and ignoring my point, instead jumping straight to the "but it's still in testing derp!" response. Even BEFORE you get to the beta testing stage, the seriously terrible gameplay would've been ringing alarm bells in ANYONE who had any decent experience with FPSs in the alpha stage. I know what beta is, and by the beta stage they know exactly what they're doing, so to see such terrible gameplay mechanics at this stage of development either means they either have no faith in their product or they'll just slaving away to break into the FPS market to supplement their EVE universe. It honestly makes no sense how it can be this bad at this later stage of development. EnglishSnake wrote: Graphics make a game good? lolno look at BF3 and that pile of shite which is constantly getting patched and made worse where its a twitch shooter to the max and everything else is made of paper Yes BF3 does have a shitload of problems, but despite that at least the gameplay overall is SOLID and performs well, both on an infantry and vehicle aspect. Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Its the only FPS I gotz so I have nothing to compare it too but I'm loving it and cant wait till we have those long running skirmish maps that roll on from one objective to the next. THIS is a perfect example of how I said in my first post that only the players with the absolute lowest of standards will be the ones still playing this in the long term, because they simply wouldn't know any better or just don't have any standards. Seriously, stop taking this offensively, listen objectively, I'm trying to make a valid point that if taken seriously might improve the game. I'm not here to hurl random insults and mindless abuse, I do not troll.
Vicx V Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2012.07.29 14:46:00 - [3] - Quote Renzo Kuken wrote: hey moron the game is in its second build...what part of work in progress do you not understand??? Read my 2nd post this time. Being in it's second build gives me even less faith, it shows that they're fully aware of what they've created. At this rate it'll take many MANY builds before this game is up to par. Grizl Takus wrote: Well first of all it's a closed beta not even open yet, the graphics have been downsized so that there is not a lot more to download, they have said that there would be different looking guns and actually I bought the Merc Pack after I played the beta weekend because I wanted to keep playing because I loved this game so much. If you don't like the game that's fine, your're entitled to your opinion but how about you save it until the game is actually done and finished. Okay? Thank you. Thanks Captain Obvious. It's not just an opinion, it's called constructive criticism, I think 90% of the people here don't understand that. I'm raising these points now BEFORE it is done because by then it'll be too late to overhaul the seriously flawed state it's in now. Sojuro Ryo wrote: You can go back to playing CoD with the other little kids and let the grownups play the real games. No one is being offensive except for you. You're complaining like this is a finished game but yet...it's not. LOL no one is being offensive? read all these posts, even YOU are calling me a "little kid." This is the mentality of people who cannot look at themselves honestly and acknowledge ANY form of constructive criticism, instead taking it way too personally.. sigh.
Vicx V Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2012.07.29 15:09:00 - [4] - Quote Mo Gallas Gentralde wrote: Vicx V wrote: this game will fail within months of release. The ONLY thing that'll keep this game alive in the long term is the fact that it's free You just said "This game will fail, because it will succeed." If a game stays alive, it's economically sound. If a game is economically sound, that means it has succeeded. Vicx V wrote: I was SO excited about this for months, I thought it would combine MAG and Battlefield into one epic game, best of all it would be free so there'd never be a lack of players.. but after a few hours of really trying to like this game, it fails miserably. I LOVE the depth of the dropsuit customization system, the market place and all the other details that allow you to customize your character to your needs, the MMO influence from Eve Online really shows in this regard.. but at the end of the day it's the gameplay that completely and utterly ***** SUCKS! It feels like an extremely budget version of MAG and Section 8 Prejudice combined, except it feels even MORE cheap and budget (in fact I feel like getting back into both of those games right now) I sincerely wanted this game to conquer and succeed, but the fact is the gameplay just ain't fun.. although it has the scope and potential to be, it SO does! that's why I'm so genuinely disappointed. So from me, goodbye and good riddance. Definition of BETA: You ask other people to test things REPETITIVELY so you can figure out what is broken or needs to be changed. You're basically telling everyone here that you came and "didn't want to test things repetitively". Why in the world did you sign up for a BETA then? Seriously? You're complaining that YOU chose to do something. We are not being given everything at once, because they need a good quantity of data on the items they give us before they drop a new one on the field. That means we're going to be doing the same things over... and over... and over again. It's kind of like volunteering to work at a Zoo, then breaking down hysterically because there are too many people around you pointing at animals. wow, completely missing the point yet again. Yes you're right about the definition of a Beta, and I applaud anyone who has tortured themselves to keep putting themselves through this bs. I know it's a beta and that there are bugs and problems to find and solve, my point was I was highlighting the terrible gameplay mechanics, that go far beyond any minor bugs that need to be identified and ironed out. Is it really that hard to see where I'm coming from? and by staying alive, I meant it will be because the absolute bottom end of the market with zero standards will be the ones playing this which there is an abundance of. But WHY settle for mediocrity? WHY settle for the lowest end of the market when you have a game with SO MUCH potential to rival even paid-for games like BF3 and MW3.. why sell your product short with all this potential? Iceyburnz wrote: Vicx V wrote:** I was SO excited about this for months...[stuff] So from me, goodbye and good riddance. So instead of offering concise and construct ways to make the game better. You chose to offer non-sensical comparatives and throw your dummy out of the pram. There's no need to be concise, I've made it clear it's the overall gameplay and shooting mechanics, the bulk of the game that needs addressing. And according to these other posts, others have already pointed out specifics but have been ignored. Alright I've made my point, I'm simply just repeating myself now. As long as CCP acknowledge these points this thread will have served it's purpose. Good luck.
Vicx V Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2012.07.29 15:10:00 - [5] - Quote Chihiro Itto wrote: People who say they dislike a game then spend their time on that game's forums instead of doing something else with their lives make me larf. Read my 2nd post in this thread, it's called caring about a game enough to come back and provide constructive criticism, something you've obviously never heard of or even considered.