DUST Search - -Sigh- Crushed by Drop-ship at Spawn..

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

I had my whole team on mics in hysterics in a game earlier today where someone showed up to do this to us.

I spawned in, locked on with Swarms, turned and fired, sprinting at an angle from the Dropship's approach and JUST getting out of its path as it crashed into where I had spawned. Then my missiles hit and it exploded.

The only reason it's a real problem is the fixed spawn locations, which are supposedly fixed for the new build that's coming. And as mentioned, that will be August.

Nah dude. It's a problem because you can kill top tier gear sets with absolutely no risk to you what-so-ever. Sure, you can kill them, but the fact that they're not losing any ISK over it is absolute non-sense.

I mean that it's not going to be a problem when you're not spawning in the same exact spot every time. They won't be able to just park on that spot and get free kills, they'll have to work for it (giving you time to line up your Forge/Swarm/Proto AR shots and take them down.

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Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:27:00 - [1] - Quote Three times in one match, including at main base. Anyone else just a little burnt out with this game "feature"..?
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:29:00 - [2] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Three times in one match, including at main base. Anyone else just a little burnt out with this game "feature"..? Everyone but the people using them. Unfortunately, the gamers (i use that word lightly) who use this are the majority of Dusters.
Grit Breather BetaMax. 660	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:29:00 - [3] - Quote August...
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:32:00 - [4] - Quote Grit Breather wrote: August... Is there a confirmed change to this in August or is it just speculation..? Just saying, I think it's total bull that random guy 'x' can take a free dropship and run it into a Prototype suit loaded with Prototype gear without any risk at all.. Loses his dropship? Nothing. Crashes it into some poor sob with prototype gear? Instant 100,000+ isk loss, give or take.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:34:00 - [5] - Quote I'd also like to add, while we're here, that the command system for a Squad Leader takes way too much effort. Need to simplify that a -lot-. Got run down in main base by a drop-ship crusher because I was in the middle of giving a squad order and couldn't see what was coming directly at me.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:36:00 - [6] - Quote I had my whole team on mics in hysterics in a game earlier today where someone showed up to do this to us. I spawned in, locked on with Swarms, turned and fired, sprinting at an angle from the Dropship's approach and JUST getting out of its path as it crashed into where I had spawned. Then my missiles hit and it exploded. The only reason it's a real problem is the fixed spawn locations, which are supposedly fixed for the new build that's coming. And as mentioned, that will be August.
CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:42:00 - [7] - Quote I for one am sick an tired of geting crushed, especially in the ambush mode(i belive thats the right name). your in a middle of a fire fight about to kill the player you have been fighting with for a few seconds ( that may seem like minutes) just to get crushed by a F(U)CKING noob in a god damn drop ship!!
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:42:00 - [8] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I had my whole team on mics in hysterics in a game earlier today where someone showed up to do this to us. I spawned in, locked on with Swarms, turned and fired, sprinting at an angle from the Dropship's approach and JUST getting out of its path as it crashed into where I had spawned. Then my missiles hit and it exploded. The only reason it's a real problem is the fixed spawn locations, which are supposedly fixed for the new build that's coming. And as mentioned, that will be August. Nah dude. It's a problem because you can kill top tier gear sets with absolutely no risk to you what-so-ever. Sure, you can kill them, but the fact that they're not losing any ISK over it is absolute non-sense.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 99	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:43:00 - [9] - Quote If you fly like this in a flight sim, heli game or even for real, you'd be dead in 2 seconds. I guess these 3 thousand years in the future dropships are made from some kind of wonder rubber found on planet X. Yeah right. lol. Fix no,,,,,, oh I lost count sorry.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:45:00 - [10] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I had my whole team on mics in hysterics in a game earlier today where someone showed up to do this to us. I spawned in, locked on with Swarms, turned and fired, sprinting at an angle from the Dropship's approach and JUST getting out of its path as it crashed into where I had spawned. Then my missiles hit and it exploded. The only reason it's a real problem is the fixed spawn locations, which are supposedly fixed for the new build that's coming. And as mentioned, that will be August. Nah dude. It's a problem because you can kill top tier gear sets with absolutely no risk to you what-so-ever. Sure, you can kill them, but the fact that they're not losing any ISK over it is absolute non-sense. I mean that it's not going to be a problem when you're not spawning in the same exact spot every time. They won't be able to just park on that spot and get free kills, they'll have to work for it (giving you time to line up your Forge/Swarm/Proto AR shots and take them down.

Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:46:00 - [11] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I had my whole team on mics in hysterics in a game earlier today where someone showed up to do this to us. I spawned in, locked on with Swarms, turned and fired, sprinting at an angle from the Dropship's approach and JUST getting out of its path as it crashed into where I had spawned. Then my missiles hit and it exploded. The only reason it's a real problem is the fixed spawn locations, which are supposedly fixed for the new build that's coming. And as mentioned, that will be August. Nah dude. It's a problem because you can kill top tier gear sets with absolutely no risk to you what-so-ever. Sure, you can kill them, but the fact that they're not losing any ISK over it is absolute non-sense. I mean that it's not going to be a problem when you're not spawning in the same exact spot every time. They won't be able to just park on that spot and get free kills, they'll have to work for it (giving you time to line up your Forge/Swarm/Proto AR shots and take them down. And high-tier Snipers are just boned, right?
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:47:00 - [12] - Quote ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote: If you fly like this in a flight sim, heli game or even for real, you'd be dead in 2 seconds. I guess these 3 thousand years in the future dropships are made from some kind of wonder rubber found on planet X. Yeah right. lol. Fix no,,,,,, oh I lost count sorry. I tried to say that but there's a few in the community that think helicopters are made of like, experimental metals that prevent them from taking damage at the slightest jarring motion and are, in fact, bullet resistant/bullet proof.
Grit Breather BetaMax. 660	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:52:00 - [13] - Quote The August build will fix the missing random spawns feature. As for vehicle damage (and dropships included), it is unclear.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:59:00 - [14] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Three times in one match, including at main base. Anyone else just a little burnt out with this game "feature"..? I was in that game with you, the guy got me around 6 times. He never left his dropship for the whole game, just flew around crushing people. I feel your pain bro
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:00:00 - [15] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: And high-tier Snipers are just boned, right? BAD high-tier snipers who get their shot lined up then just tap R1 every time someone spawns? Yes. Competent snipers? No.
McFurious BetaMax. 67	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:09:00 - [16] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Three times in one match, including at main base. Anyone else just a little burnt out with this game "feature"..? Once the spawn system is in place and vehicles actually cost money to field then we'll probably see a large drop spawn camping and dropship squishing. Till then don't worry about it. It's only beta.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:15:00 - [17] - Quote Forge guns puts a quick end to any attempts to fly in the air I've noticed.
Rhadiem Algintal Core Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:24:00 - [18] - Quote As a dropship pilot (Eryx, top tier shield gear, proto small launchers) I do get why people spawn and instantly summon a dropship, it's because nearly 1/2 the attacking team does the same thing, with militia vehicles to save on walking. If too many vehicles get summoned, you hit a cap for your team and have to wait a while until someone has their vehicle killed before you can pull yours in. So, if people are not wanting to wait a few minutes, they pull it down ASAP even if that means risking their teammates getting squished. I've had a some people squished by my ships, and perhaps one or two were because they just spawned and didn't have a chance to look around, but I suggest always looking around you for dropships or other vehicles coming down in spawn, especially when you're just starting the game and everyone's pulling down vehicles. Now that I realize this happens, I always try to move out of the way before getting my ride, but just thought I'd share why this happens. Rarely is it intentional, and some of the times it could have been prevented if they kept an eye out for vehicles incoming. Squishing enemies though, now that's just good fun. I squish and get squished all the time. ;) It's an everyday occurance on towers and high places. Just gotta be observant and a good listener.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:27:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Forge guns puts a quick end to any attempts to fly in the air I've noticed. LIES! My Scout suit has be sent flying by Forge Guns HEAPS of times!
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:50:00 - [20] - Quote Love squishing in the red zone it makes me happy Makes up for my gun game too

Raynor Ragna 266	Posted - 2012.07.22 08:09:00 - [21] - Quote This should still be in the game but with much higher risks. If someone skills up as a pilot and REALLY learns to fly, they should be able to crush easy prey. Right now you can mostly smash into the ground and up out with minor damage.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.07.22 08:16:00 - [22] - Quote Ants not liking being squished ants? Well that's just how an ant's life is.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.22 08:19:00 - [23] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Three times in one match, including at main base. Anyone else just a little burnt out with this game "feature"..? I was in that game with you, the guy got me around 6 times. He never left his dropship for the whole game, just flew around crushing people. I feel your pain bro Ouch, your team must have sucked... or been sleeping on the job. One guy in a dropship, cannot take out an entire team, on a map with multiple spawns, all at the same time. One guy with a level 1 forge gun = problem solved, he's bound to spawn without being crushed eventually. It really is worth the ISK and SP to get a level 1 heavy and forge gun, can get a lot of vehicle kills that way. And hell, if you're a good shot, 1200 damage direct hit will take out any poor soul that got caught in your sights.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.07.22 08:21:00 - [24] - Quote Tbh I would like more impact dmg as a dropship pilot so when I get a squish without actualy touching the ground they will go "wow thats was a great move your ace" instead of hating on me like they do now
KILLAHG187 WARRIORS 6	Posted - 2012.07.22 09:49:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Three times in one match, including at main base. Anyone else just a little burnt out with this game "feature"..? yeah the way its set out it seems that the game caters to * type game play . its hard to get in to a gun fight from what iv seen since i started playing this weekend just dropships crushing people or tower camping if not that its retards who camp spawns in tanks no skill from what i see just pure puy cheap arse ways of playing . wish there was a infantry only game mode soooo bad man .......
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.07.22 12:49:00 - [26] - Quote You can not be crushed while jumping, pro tip
BigBry HNK Algintal Core Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.22 15:26:00 - [27] - Quote Has anyone else noticed that you can hit another object 2 or3 times in an LAV and it explodes, but if you spend the whole game dribbling your dropship/basket ball around the field it just keeps on going...? It's just a big joke, but that's what the whole game has become.
Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.07.22 15:51:00 - [28] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Three times in one match, including at main base. Anyone else just a little burnt out with this game "feature"..? Not broken except that the drop ship doesn't take damage from the impact with the ground. You heard of drop uplinks before right? I can't fee sorry for anyone who only thinks AR is the acceptable way to kill others.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 99	Posted - 2012.07.22 16:16:00 - [29] - Quote I'm guessing a lot of the BS in this game/beta, is there for certain unmentionables to be able to get kills. This dropship rubbish is just one of many examples. The problem I have though is, has anyone noticed the numbers on this beta ? Thousands of beta keys with only a few hundred diehards still playing/testing. I wonder why.
Bzeer MG GROUP 41	Posted - 2012.07.22 16:25:00 - [30] - Quote They do take damage from the ground depending on how hard they hit it, and how uneven it is. They take even more damage colliding with structures especially av barriers. It usually just isn't enough to kill the dropship, and if a dS pilot is good he can avoid taking damage by not hitting the ground hard during a crush attempt. Very often I try to just kiss the ground, as I would in a typical landing, the only difference being a person between me and the ground. I have only been crushed once by the attic myself, and find it amausing so many people fall prey to it. I am more often an assault rifle or sniper rifle guy these days, so I'm vulnerable to those tactics, and yet I don't fall prey to them because I use cover, and concealment tactics, and do not just stand on the middle of a road shooting wildly waiting for some jeep, dropship, or tank to crush me. Infantry needs to utIlize the areas where vehicles have limited acess to, but for the spawn killing just by parking on a spot... I agree that's taking advantage of a broken system, and I just did it one match to see if it was possible. (of course, if I'm in a dS and have a gunner, I will orbit objectives without shame, and if you fire forge guns at me I have two options, run away, or crash on your head.) but I get bored being a d s guy so don't do it often anymore unless I'm patrolling the towers for perch sitters.



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