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ProstateOfaKing Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.08.20 18:38:00 - [61] - Quote I use the sony 7.1 surround but I all ways chalked the lag up to the ps3 controller, once I plug it in to charge n play the lag drops considerably.
NoZephyr Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.08.20 21:35:00 - [62] - Quote I'm using the Sony 7.1 headset but can't atribute the rare lag I've experienced to just the headset. However I've never been able to hear anyone or speak to anyone. I've changed menu settings in-game, turned headset on/off and turned virtual surround on/off with no improvement. I'll try other things mentioned in this tread and see what happens. (PS3 Slim 160GB, HDMI 1m, wireless internet)
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.08.22 07:18:00 - [63] - Quote NoZephyr wrote: I'm using the Sony 7.1 headset but can't atribute the rare lag I've experienced to just the headset. (PS3 Slim 160GB, HDMI 1m, wireless internet) yes, i do believe that being wireless itself is not desirable in dust. Flame Highsea wrote: Got it working : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=31747&find=unread (...)so --> in middle of game I unpluged Hdmi cable and reattached to bigger tv with short (60-80cm) hdmi cable --> NO stutter or lag with headset on!! So you might want to try changing and recheking your HDMI cable lenght and that its connected propely! Good battles to you all! -Flame to be honest, i dont see how this would be the problem since when the headset is off it goes away and my HDMI has zero issues. its only when the headset is on that it has this stutter lag. the headset doesn't even function in any way with the HDMI either... they're just not related
Flame Highsea Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.08.22 11:02:00 - [64] - Quote Ima Leet wrote: NoZephyr wrote: I'm using the Sony 7.1 headset but can't atribute the rare lag I've experienced to just the headset. (PS3 Slim 160GB, HDMI 1m, wireless internet) yes, i do believe that being wireless itself is not desirable in dust. Flame Highsea wrote: Got it working : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=31747&find=unread (...)so --> in middle of game I unpluged Hdmi cable and reattached to bigger tv with short (60-80cm) hdmi cable --> NO stutter or lag with headset on!! So you might want to try changing and recheking your HDMI cable lenght and that its connected propely! Good battles to you all! -Flame to be honest, i dont see how this would be the problem since when the headset is off it goes away and my HDMI has zero issues. its only when the headset is on that it has this stutter lag. the headset doesn't even function in any way with the HDMI either... they're just not related Yes.. I could replicate just that same you did.. BUT ONLY when with my longer HDMI cable. NOT with short cable. So only thing that changed was lenght of cable.. still same battle and settings and load. Now explain why it has no effect. :) -Flame
Ona Monapia Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:29:00 - [65] - Quote this problem with the headset is worse with Precursor then the previous build. The game is now completely unplayable with the headset turned on. at least before it was intermittent..now it's constant.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:40:00 - [66] - Quote I bought a brand new wireless stereo headset (the 7.1 one) this week and so far I haven't had a single problem. Played for about 4 straight hours without running into any lag different from what I would occasionally get before I even owned a headset.
HIGH TIMESsw Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 37	Posted - 2012.08.24 18:32:00 - [67] - Quote The sony mic also interferes with my wireless keyboard on other games. Although it hasn't happened to the controller until DUST. I have been playing with the controller plugged into a charging cable and haven't noticed the issue. I removed the cable to charge the head set it happened again right away. I made a post about this and it contains a video of what is happening to the character for the DEV's https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=32314&find=unread
Jugular Rohmbus I 1	Posted - 2012.08.24 19:46:00 - [68] - Quote in the case of the video its your connection not the head set i've the sony official wirless head set and i havent any problems
Ona Monapia Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.08.24 22:29:00 - [69] - Quote Jugular Rohmbus I wrote: in the case of the video its your connection not the head set i've the sony official wirless head set and i havent any problems Then explain why when those of us with this issue cease having problems when we turn off the headsets? Discounting this as a connection issue makes no sense...at least to me.
HIGH TIMESsw Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 37	Posted - 2012.08.25 14:42:00 - [70] - Quote Ona Monapia wrote: Jugular Rohmbus I wrote: in the case of the video its your connection not the head set i've the sony official wirless head set and i havent any problems Then explain why when those of us with this issue cease having problems when we turn off the headsets? Discounting this as a connection issue makes no sense...at least to me. You are correct. As you can clearly see everyone else is moving fine on the screen so there is no lag issue, receiving the data is not the issue. Turning off the headset or plugging the controller in with the charge cable solves the issue. Some people experience different things with the new PS3 mic's. For instance, in DCUO the Mic interferes wit the ROUTER and makes an annoying clicking sound that other people hear but you don't. (this does not happen to me but it does for others) Also on DCUO, It interferes with the keyboard typing. You hit some keys and they won't register and sometimes they register 10 times. Making impossible to type a understandable sentence. And now in DUST its causes interference with the controller... They have been having issues with this mic since FEB http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/7/2933011/sony-ps3-stereo-headset-audio-issue-update because of a firmware update.

Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.09.05 18:28:00 - [71] - Quote i did a lil test and it seems to be helping. i'm not experiencing severe lag as i was before when using this headset. with the USB dongle in and lit up blue, turn your headset on as well. find a small pin, poke the reset button on the Dongle first and then the headset, then just hit the mute button once and the headset is reset. this seems to have resolved my lag issue with it. i am able to run now. hacking seems a bit iffy as so far i've only hacked things with others around to help so i dont know if my hack was working or not. i did have one lil issue though, on one spawn i tried to shoot at someone using ADS and it continued to flicker in and out of scope as it did before. but after i died it didn't do it again....
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.09.27 20:17:00 - [72] - Quote I found that unplugging the dongle mid match, and plugging it back in, seems to help a ton. I haven't been stuttering for about 10-15 minutes now.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.09.27 20:21:00 - [73] - Quote HIGH TIMESsw wrote: For instance, in DCUO the Mic interferes wit the ROUTER and makes an annoying clicking sound that other people hear but you don't. (this does not happen to me but it does for others) how could a specific game (i.e. software) cause a hardware issue/interference? not calling you out just wondering Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: I found that unplugging the dongle mid match, and plugging it back in, seems to help a ton. I haven't been stuttering for about 10-15 minutes now. you did the reset before pulling the dongle though correct? its possible a reset and pulling the dongle helped. i would always pull mine and didnt see difference until i reset it
Dino Malice 7	Posted - 2012.10.01 01:09:00 - [74] - Quote crap players looking to blame their inability on any variable they can think of. its a beta, every1 is lagging(yes i do have the playstation wireless stereo headset)
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.10.03 18:39:00 - [75] - Quote Dino Malice wrote: crap players looking to blame their inability on any variable they can think of. its a beta, every1 is lagging(yes i do have the playstation wireless stereo headset) what? this is a legitimate issue. there is a difference between game lag and the lag that this headset will cause. i no longer use my stereo headset for Dust because it causes horrible horrible things to happen. i can't walk, i can't sprint, i can't hack, i can't aim down sights. no, thats not cause i'm a horrible player its cause the headset. as soon as i turn the headset off i can do all of that again... troll
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 653	Posted - 2012.10.03 19:35:00 - [76] - Quote Ima Leet wrote: even after Precursor, whenever i use my 7.1 headset it causes a constant stutter type lag. i still cannot Aim Down Sights, it overall makes the game still as choppy laggy as it was before this patch. Ill do some further testing tonight, but I turned off my PS bluetooth headset and went wired since I ran out of juice. The lag went away and the gameplay was amazing... BUT... The map I was on had 0 environmentals going... no fog, no altered sky etc and was smooth. I plan on using my wired USB headset tonight on the different maps and see if the lag goes away. If so, I know its the bluetooth that is causing big lag issues.
madd mudd 41	Posted - 2012.10.03 19:43:00 - [77] - Quote I'm using the official Sony 7.1 surround sound headset found here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879261316&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA and have not noticed any of these issues
McFurious BetaMax. 67	Posted - 2012.10.03 22:05:00 - [78] - Quote madd mudd wrote: I'm using the official Sony 7.1 surround sound headset found here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879261316&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA This is the same headset I have and I've also been having lag issues. Except I've also had the same problem with it in Battlefield 3 as well. So it isn't just Dust. The dongle is connected to a USB hub on my coffee table and it sits about 4 feet away from the PS3. My internet equipment is about 5 or 6 feet away from the dongle so I don't think it would be causing any interference but I'm no expert. It's weird though because sometimes there's absolutely no lag at all then the next time I play it starts lagging again. I don't get it.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.10.04 05:54:00 - [79] - Quote Cyn Bruin wrote: Ima Leet wrote: even after Precursor, whenever i use my 7.1 headset it causes a constant stutter type lag. i still cannot Aim Down Sights, it overall makes the game still as choppy laggy as it was before this patch. Ill do some further testing tonight, but I turned off my PS bluetooth headset and went wired since I ran out of juice. The lag went away and the gameplay was amazing... BUT... The map I was on had 0 environmentals going... no fog, no altered sky etc and was smooth. I plan on using my wired USB headset tonight on the different maps and see if the lag goes away. If so, I know its the bluetooth that is causing big lag issues. this isn't the bluetooth headset that causes this though. its the Stereo Headset with 7.1 Virtual Surround Sound. costs $100 USD and is wireless, comes with a USB dongle as it is not bluetooth. sadly the PS3 doesn't support stereo sound through bluetooth
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.10.04 05:57:00 - [80] - Quote McFurious wrote: madd mudd wrote: I'm using the official Sony 7.1 surround sound headset found here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879261316&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA This is the same headset I have and I've also been having lag issues. Except I've also had the same problem with it in Battlefield 3 as well. So it isn't just Dust. The dongle is connected to a USB hub on my coffee table and it sits about 4 feet away from the PS3. My internet equipment is about 5 or 6 feet away from the dongle so I don't think it would be causing any interference but I'm no expert. It's weird though because sometimes there's absolutely no lag at all then the next time I play it starts lagging again. I don't get it. thats odd, that is the exact headset and i do not have issues with it in BF3 or any other game. only Dust. apparently some people dont have issues with it while others do. i was able to reset the dongle and headset and got less issues with it but its like you say, hit n miss. some games are fine, some are not, also i've had no issues, then died, respawn and had issues.. but its the same issues and they are only associated with this headset, unable to hack as it constantly resets, unable to walk as you constantly stutter around the map, unable to sprint as it constantly resets, unable to ADS cause its constantly flipping you in and out of scope.

Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.10.04 07:23:00 - [81] - Quote Ima Leet wrote: you did the reset before pulling the dongle though correct? its possible a reset and pulling the dongle helped. i would always pull mine and didnt see difference until i reset it Nope, just unplug it and plug it back in, the reset didn't make any noticeable difference for me. It sounds like this issue has more than one cause/effect, strange.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.10.04 17:20:00 - [82] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: Ima Leet wrote: you did the reset before pulling the dongle though correct? its possible a reset and pulling the dongle helped. i would always pull mine and didnt see difference until i reset it Nope, just unplug it and plug it back in, the reset didn't make any noticeable difference for me. It sounds like this issue has more than one cause/effect, strange. yea, but you did reset it. its possible it did help, which is all i was asking. you may not have noticed immediately but after pulling the dongle it helped. and yes, there seems to me something up with these headsets, is it the headset or Dust or what? some people have issues and others do not... i wish everyone had the issue so it would be easier to fix.
HIGH TIMESsw Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 37	Posted - 2012.10.04 20:54:00 - [83] - Quote Ima Leet wrote: HIGH TIMESsw wrote: For instance, in DCUO the Mic interferes wit the ROUTER and makes an annoying clicking sound that other people hear but you don't. (this does not happen to me but it does for others) how could a specific game (i.e. software) cause a hardware issue/interference? not calling you out just wondering Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: I found that unplugging the dongle mid match, and plugging it back in, seems to help a ton. I haven't been stuttering for about 10-15 minutes now. you did the reset before pulling the dongle though correct? its possible a reset and pulling the dongle helped. i would always pull mine and didnt see difference until i reset it It is not the specific Software. This is just the arena under which I have experienced the issues. Since I have been playing DUST with my charge cable plugged into my controller I have not had a single issue of this kind. Hackign running, shooting, they all work 100% of the time. If I unplug the the controller to charge the mic the issues comes up instantly. So I use my lap top to charge the mic and keep the cable in the controller. From what I understand, is the controller, keyboard, and mics all work on the blue tooth frequency and are itnerfering with each other wirelessly. Although, the issue still happens if I plug in the mic and not the controller, but unsure why (assuming the usb stick plugged into the PS3 has something to do with it).
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.10.04 21:00:00 - [84] - Quote HIGH TIMESsw wrote: It is not the specific Software. This is just the arena under which I have experienced the issues. Since I have been playing DUST with my charge cable plugged into my controller I have not had a single issue of this kind. Hackign running, shooting, they all work 100% of the time. If I unplug the the controller to charge the mic the issues comes up instantly. So I use my lap top to charge the mic and keep the cable in the controller. From what I understand, is the controller, keyboard, and mics all work on the blue tooth frequency and are itnerfering with each other wirelessly. Although, the issue still happens if I plug in the mic and not the controller, but unsure why (assuming the usb stick plugged into the PS3 has something to do with it). The PS3 Stereo Headset isn't bluetooth, which is why it requires that USB dongle. I'm not sure what it's signal type is, but it's definitely not bluetooth.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.10.04 22:51:00 - [85] - Quote HIGH TIMESsw wrote: ... (assuming the usb stick plugged into the PS3 has something to do with it). this is a possibility, somewhere in this thread someone posted they had other items plugged in the USB and possibly off a HUB. i've removed my HUB and other devices from USB and get this with the dongle in only. i dont leave the headset dongle in any more because i no longer use the headset for dust and dust is all i play. it is possible for the wireless to interfere but why only Dust? or another game and not anything else? i have used my headset for tv shows off USB, netflix and other games and nothing has else has this issue. Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: The PS3 Stereo Headset isn't bluetooth, which is why it requires that USB dongle. I'm not sure what it's signal type is, but it's definitely not bluetooth. correct, its not bluetooth. BT does still operate in the same radio frequency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11 i see these issues only with Dust. resetting the dongle and headset helped me but i still stopped using it due to it still having sporadic issues. spawn fine, die, respawn and have bugs, die, respawn and they'd be gone. it never felt like it was 100% gone either, sprint would maybe stop when i hadn't ran out of stamina. i always disconnect and reconnect the dongle but i've never tried it mid battle.
HIGH TIMESsw Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 37	Posted - 2012.10.05 00:58:00 - [86] - Quote Yeah for my keyboard issue in DCUO, I had to stop using the keyboard. For DUST i plug the controller in. This mic has lasted the longest out of the Turtle beach (2 broken within 3 months, head set stopped working from lose wires) and the Triton (both ear pieces snapped and were dangling by the wire). I like this mic the best of all 3, just have to deal with some randomness I guess. I play games too long to use the Ear pieces as they die too fast and definitely make my ear sore after 6+ hours or so. If you haven't tried using the mic and using a 10m long charge cable for the troller (there $10 at EB Games <--- Canadian IGN), I suggest this, since it works 100% for me.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.10.05 07:27:00 - [87] - Quote It's an interference issue that is quite common for the headset. It's hardware side so not DUST's fault. SONY has yet to admit the problem exists despite ample proof so we're all SOL. Wiring the controller resolves the issue.
GUILTYBOY RestlessSpirits 1	Posted - 2012.11.10 10:58:00 - [88] - Quote Ima Leet wrote: Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: Ima Leet wrote: you did the reset before pulling the dongle though correct? its possible a reset and pulling the dongle helped. i would always pull mine and didnt see difference until i reset it Nope, just unplug it and plug it back in, the reset didn't make any noticeable difference for me. It sounds like this issue has more than one cause/effect, strange. yea, but you did reset it. its possible it did help, which is all i was asking. you may not have noticed immediately but after pulling the dongle it helped. and yes, there seems to me something up with these headsets, is it the headset or Dust or what? some people have issues and others do not... i wish everyone had the issue so it would be easier to fix. I use both the play station full headset or the play station single ear piece. Both make no difference. I lag out to the max no matter what. I'm running a Belkin $300 router. Our speeds are good but since an update a month or so ago. The lag is making it impossible to play most nights. Im in New Zealand which in 99% of my other games online work fine. Is this actually a head set problem or just the servers this is running on?
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.11.12 17:23:00 - [89] - Quote GUILTYBOY wrote: Is this actually a head set problem or just the servers this is running on? there has been a lot of discussion in this thread as to what exactly is the cause here and how to fix it or at least try. please let us know if you find anything helpful, thanks edit: i just wanted to mention i still do not use my 7.1 Sony headset
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 811	Posted - 2012.11.12 19:37:00 - [90] - Quote This problem still exists with the surround sound setting.



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