Well they can burn in orbital fire.

Good Stuff.

As for downed victims:

• Victims can no longer suicide immediately. There is a mandatory eight-second delay after which they can choose to suicide. If they choose not to, they can wait for up to 30 seconds for someone with a nanite injector to reach them.

As for downed victims:

• Victims can no longer suicide immediately. There is a mandatory eight-second delay after which they can choose to suicide. If they choose not to, they can wait for up to 30 seconds for someone with a nanite injector to reach them.
• Victims get a notification when someone with a nanite injector is nearby so that they know help is on the way.
• When fitted with a nanite injector, HUD icons will appear showing you the location of downed friendlies.

Some general notes:

• The repair tools were removed because we felt they were still too clunky and not that fun to use. WeGÇÖre fixing them up and theyGÇÖll be back as soon as possible. The fact that only AUR versions exist on the market was an oversight. They should have all been removed from the market.
• There ARE repair nanohives. Look for any nanohive with the (R) designation in its name. These replenish ammo and repair armor.

Whoa, what? That doesn't sound good at all. I really hope that 8 seconds is not on top of the already mandatory 10-sec respawn timer. 18 second respawn timer is a bit overkill, especially for those players at the bottom of the list. If the mandatory 8 second bleed out time runs concurrently with the 10-sec re-spawn time it still takes longer to spawn now. 2 seconds is not enough time to properly look at the map, and spawn. Any death that annihilates you so there is no revive would be a bonus. A random bonus of having half the re-spawn time (assuming the 2 timers run consecutively.). That is a giant advantage kind of handed out at random.

I could adapt to 18 sec respawn timers, but I usually finish top 3 on my team. I don't know how those in the bottom 3 will feel about doubling the respawn time. And every match needs a last place person.

Also what if there is no logi around? I have to lay and watch the rocks for 8 seconds. That's not fun.

agrred, but it's beta lt it come, lets test it.

The only thing i don't like , is you can still go down with a grenade this will just rpomote that so players don't have to sit around, but that's what great about beta. Maybe if you die an NO ONE is around you can kill yourself sooner?

but yeah all in all, bring it on, we'll test it, and it'll change if it doesn't work.

YouGÇÖre all pretty spot on. The Logistics suit hasnGÇÖt quite found its niche yet, due in small part to stats and in large part to his dependence on having a variety of equipment to use (which just isnGÇÖt there). His strength lies in his versatility, but without the tools to do so heGÇÖs obviously not living up to his full potential. HeGÇÖs not perfect, but much improved in the build weGÇÖre using in the office.

Some things to look forward to in the next update:

• Logistics suits have a 10% bonus to hacking speed. New hacking modules will be available on the market to boost this as well.
• Bumped the Logistics shield up by 10 HP so it has the same max. shield as the Assault and a tiny bump to shield recharge rate. A minor conceit to his fragility. Every little bit helps, after all :P

As for downed victims:

• Victims can no longer suicide immediately. There is a mandatory eight-second delay after which they can choose to suicide. If they choose not to, they can wait for up to 30 seconds for someone with a nanite injector to reach them.
• Victims get a notification when someone with a nanite injector is nearby so that they know help is on the way.
• When fitted with a nanite injector, HUD icons will appear showing you the location of downed friendlies.

Some general notes:

• The repair tools were removed because we felt they were still too clunky and not that fun to use. WeGÇÖre fixing them up and theyGÇÖll be back as soon as possible. The fact that only AUR versions exist on the market was an oversight. They should have all been removed from the market.
• There ARE repair nanohives. Look for any nanohive with the (R) designation in its name. These replenish ammo and repair armor.

As for downed victims:

• Victims can no longer suicide immediately. There is a mandatory eight-second delay after which they can choose to suicide. If they choose not to, they can wait for up to 30 seconds for someone with a nanite injector to reach them.
• Victims get a notification when someone with a nanite injector is nearby so that they know help is on the way.
• When fitted with a nanite injector, HUD icons will appear showing you the location of downed friendlies.

NO to the 8 second delay. Not cool.

Look I understand you want to find a niche or need for logi (people want to be healers) but don't hurt the rest of us so that you can MANUFACTURE A FALSE need for them. Which if you read the idea is really all you did. Instaed of addressing the actual problem of use and game play for logi suits you penalized dying more.

Just from exp with dust so far even if there were active healers on map the majority of the time they would NOT be able to get to you. when you look at the size of the maps and how many players and objectives there are its unfair to assume there will be enough logi to support all areas.

PLEASE go back to the drawing board on this one. Very BAD IDEA.


Right now testing is basically public server play. Logi healing isn't a key part. when we get to corp v corp battles it will be a whole different story.

Give logi versitility and survivability for public play and proper equipment to heal and res in team play. Then and only then will I put you back on my christmas card list.

Time spent downed will be subtracted from your respawn time (there is a minimum 3 second spawn time, though). We've been playing it a lot internally and I don't think we've had a single complaint about the mandatory downtime (I forget the exact duration, but it takes 2-3 seconds just to hit the ground in 1P after death so the extra few seconds don't feel like an eternity).

At any rate, try it out and if you absolutely hate it I'm sure you'll make sure we know

Whoa, what? That doesn't sound good at all. I really hope that 8 seconds is not on top of the already mandatory 10-sec respawn timer. 18 second respawn timer is a bit overkill, especially for those players at the bottom of the list. If the mandatory 8 second bleed out time runs concurrently with the 10-sec re-spawn time it still takes longer to spawn now. 2 seconds is not enough time to properly look at the map, and spawn. Any death that annihilates you so there is no revive would be a bonus. A random bonus of having half the re-spawn time (assuming the 2 timers run consecutively.). That is a giant advantage kind of handed out at random.

I could adapt to 18 sec respawn timers, but I usually finish top 3 on my team. I don't know how those in the bottom 3 will feel about doubling the respawn time. And every match needs a last place person.

Also what if there is no logi around? I have to lay and watch the rocks for 8 seconds. That's not fun.

If i see logi suits spider tanking then i'm outta here, lol.

;)

you will be back once we get ewar (i hope we will oO)

Time spent downed will be subtracted from your respawn time (there is a minimum 3 second spawn time, though). We've been playing it a lot internally and I don't think we've had a single complaint about the mandatory downtime (I forget the exact duration, but it takes 2-3 seconds just to hit the ground in 1P after death so the extra few seconds don't feel like an eternity).

At any rate, try it out and if you absolutely hate it I'm sure you'll make sure we know

YouGÇÖre all pretty spot on. The Logistics suit hasnGÇÖt quite found its niche yet, due in small part to stats and in large part to his dependence on having a variety of equipment to use (which just isnGÇÖt there). His strength lies in his versatility, but without the tools to do so heGÇÖs obviously not living up to his full potential. HeGÇÖs not perfect, but much improved in the build weGÇÖre using in the office.

Some things to look forward to in the next update:

• Logistics suits have a 10% bonus to hacking speed. New hacking modules will be available on the market to boost this as well.
• Bumped the Logistics shield up by 10 HP so it has the same max. shield as the Assault and a tiny bump to shield recharge rate. A minor conceit to his fragility. Every little bit helps, after all :P

As for downed victims:

• Victims can no longer suicide immediately. There is a mandatory eight-second delay after which they can choose to suicide. If they choose not to, they can wait for up to 30 seconds for someone with a nanite injector to reach them.
• Victims get a notification when someone with a nanite injector is nearby so that they know help is on the way.
• When fitted with a nanite injector, HUD icons will appear showing you the location of downed friendlies.

Some general notes:

• The repair tools were removed because we felt they were still too clunky and not that fun to use. WeGÇÖre fixing them up and theyGÇÖll be back as soon as possible. The fact that only AUR versions exist on the market was an oversight. They should have all been removed from the market.
• There ARE repair nanohives. Look for any nanohive with the (R) designation in its name. These replenish ammo and repair armor.

If logis are getting bonus` will other suits get bonus` too ? (Heavy get bonus to forge and HMGs? etc

If you fitted the nanite injector you see the victims lay on ground with an icon.