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Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 3080	Posted - 2017.02.27 16:05:00 - [1] - Quote Project sparc. Lololololololol GG CCP, G fking G. There will always be a DUST shaped hole in my heart games will never be able to fill.
Dreis ShadowWeaver RIP DUST 514 9710	Posted - 2017.02.27 17:04:00 - [2] - Quote Sparc was Project Arena, not Project Nova Trump x Farage ( -í° -£-û -í°) EVE name: Dravos Tarimus Tomoko is mai waifu
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 3080	Posted - 2017.02.27 18:02:00 - [3] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Sparc was Project Arena, not Project Nova Big picture Dreis, Nova is getting kicked to the back of the que again for VR pet projects. There will always be a DUST shaped hole in my heart games will never be able to fill.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7418	Posted - 2017.02.27 20:14:00 - [4] - Quote This is what happens when you get your hopes up..no hope no disappointment
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1355	Posted - 2017.02.27 20:22:00 - [5] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Sparc was Project Arena, not Project Nova Big picture Dreis, Nova is getting kicked to the back of the que again for VR pet projects. ^ Yes, this. If it's not VR it's not sexy enough.
Djinn SouI Molden Heath PoIice Department 243	Posted - 2017.02.27 21:40:00 - [6] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: This is what happens when you get your hopes up..no hope no disappointment
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9028	Posted - 2017.02.27 22:27:00 - [7] - Quote You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Ahkhomi Cypher Team Bad Decisions 1799	Posted - 2017.02.28 00:16:00 - [8] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? Other much much more experienced developers have shown that multiple projects can mess with the quality of even their most important titles. Capcom launched SFV focusing on the hardcore competitors and didn't work enough on things for casual players while also working to revamp the Resident Evil series. Does that have anything to do with how CCP works? Nope, because the people involved aren't the same and maybe the people working for CCP are super efficient. BUT It's CCP, we can count on one hand how many successful games they have produced and we know their history of doing CCP things. So until proven otherwise thinking anymore of them would be being naive and optimistic. We ever find out who Ratatti's in game alt was or nah? Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
Moorian Flav 478	Posted - 2017.02.28 00:34:00 - [9] - Quote I do wonder which CCP team(s) are working on finalizing Sparc. In any case, I am surprised CCP made an official announcement for one of their games this close to Fanfest 2017. CCP's decisions have always been like declared acts of God though; seemingly senseless and without logical reason. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16326	Posted - 2017.02.28 00:50:00 - [10] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? But how could there be balance in the Force if there weren't at least one person who is relentlessly pessimistic? Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Djinn SouI Molden Heath PoIice Department 245	Posted - 2017.02.28 01:05:00 - [11] - Quote World of Darkness did swell, Pokey. Oops, no it didn't. Hey, DUST is a thriving glory of pure unadulterated bundled beauty. Oops, nope, dead as well. How about dat Gunjack tho?
james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS The Red Skull 760	Posted - 2017.02.28 01:25:00 - [12] - Quote P.A.X n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR PROJECT NOVAGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9029	Posted - 2017.02.28 01:58:00 - [13] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? Other much much more experienced developers have shown that multiple projects can mess with the quality of even their most important titles. Capcom launched SFV focusing on the hardcore competitors and didn't work enough on things for casual players while also working to revamp the Resident Evil series. Does that have anything to do with how CCP works? Nope, because the people involved aren't the same and maybe the people working for CCP are super efficient. BUT It's CCP, we can count on one hand how many successful games they have produced and we know their history of doing CCP things. So until proven otherwise thinking anymore of them would be being naive and optimistic. We ever find out who Ratatti's in game alt was or nah? So....Of all the studio's they have working independently of one another, you feel the quality is going to drop if they have their own projects? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9029	Posted - 2017.02.28 02:06:00 - [14] - Quote Djinn SouI wrote: World of Darkness did swell, Pokey. Oops, no it didn't. Hey, DUST is a thriving glory of pure unadulterated bundled beauty. Oops, nope, dead as well. How about dat Gunjack tho? False Equivalencies for everyone! That's fine, I'll have my fun in due time when I slap my big fat pokey on the table and give y'all a big "told ya so". EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 1348	Posted - 2017.02.28 05:00:00 - [15] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Djinn SouI wrote: World of Darkness did swell, Pokey. Oops, no it didn't. Hey, DUST is a thriving glory of pure unadulterated bundled beauty. Oops, nope, dead as well. How about dat Gunjack tho? False Equivalencies for everyone! That's fine, I'll have my fun in due time when I slap my big fat pokey on the table and give y'all a big "told ya so". Pokey I'll subscribe to your boundless optimism. Add me to the Merc list of being patient. From now on anyway =ƒÖÅ=ƒÅ+ Your friendly Pub match logi
Ahkhomi Cypher Team Bad Decisions 1801	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:00:00 - [16] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: So....Of all the studio's they have working independently of one another, you feel the quality is going to drop if they have their own projects? Yes the individual studios logically would be working independently but the budget for all of them come from CCP. With how hard they are trying to establish themselves in the VR space those projects are probably getting more funding/personnel priority. And it's CCP. This can not be ignored no matter what type of logic or thinking you wanna use. They have a history that's known and until that's remedied that's what's to be expected from them. Disclaimer I don't know **** about the inner workings of CCP so I'm just being the dude on the internet right now. Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9030	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:03:00 - [17] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: So....Of all the studio's they have working independently of one another, you feel the quality is going to drop if they have their own projects? Yes the individual studios logically would be working independently but the budget for all of them come from CCP. With how hard they are trying to establish themselves in the VR space those projects are probably getting more funding/personnel priority. And it's CCP. This can not be ignored no matter what type of logic or thinking you wanna use. They have a history that's known and until that's remedied that's what's to be expected from them. Disclaimer I don't know **** about the inner workings of CCP so I'm just being the dude on the internet right now. You should check out their financial report for 2016. Trust me, they're not hurting for income and recent releases will likely continue the upward trend. More money in the corporate coffers means that the company will be more likely to take risks on projects that are less of a sure thing, such as a FPS game. Honestly the success and continued release of successful games by CCP is only going to be good news for hopes of Nova reaching full release. That is of course up for debate, but that's my take on it. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Vertigo ElsDragon Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:05:00 - [18] - Quote "Project" Nova was a No go from the start, we've just been strung along just in case they might need Us. Well now with VR they don't. Congratulations pls have some in charge post on this site the end of false hope.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16326	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:28:00 - [19] - Quote Vertigo ElsDragon wrote: "Project" Nova was a No go from the start, we've just been strung along just in case they might need Us. Well now with VR they don't. Congratulations pls have some in charge post on this site the end of false hope. This doesn't even make sense. If they wanted to string us along, they could have released 1.3, and continued charging for boosters. You literally did not even form a real argument... Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9030	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:41:00 - [20] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Vertigo ElsDragon wrote: "Project" Nova was a No go from the start, we've just been strung along just in case they might need Us. Well now with VR they don't. Congratulations pls have some in charge post on this site the end of false hope. This doesn't even make sense. If they wanted to string us along, they could have released 1.3, and continued charging for boosters. You literally did not even form a real argument... Just let them dry up in their pile of salt. People would rather be bitter than reasonable. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer

Djinn SouI Molden Heath PoIice Department 247	Posted - 2017.02.28 08:33:00 - [21] - Quote Pokey, i would like to be optimistic. But you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Russel Moralles Klandatu 175	Posted - 2017.02.28 09:39:00 - [22] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? yeah they have the best track record to go with that. eve, gunjack, valkerie, world of darkness, dust, legion and nova. wait I think two of then are gone, right?
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 817	Posted - 2017.02.28 13:46:00 - [23] - Quote Made this argument months ago i even posted a thread saying why does project arena have a feedback dedicated webpage when project nova has nothing. Asked for a project nova discussion channel here on the forums, no reply from devs. Not surprised. It is a losing battle. At least they are working on nova period even if it was pushed to the back of the shelf. http://www.youtube.com/JettGaming
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9030	Posted - 2017.02.28 14:11:00 - [24] - Quote Russel Moralles wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? yeah they have the best track record to go with that. eve, gunjack, valkerie, world of darkness, dust, legion and nova. wait I think two of then are gone, right? Whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose. Guess time will tell about who is right, I mean...It's not like I've been right every time up until now...Oh wait I actually have been. But what do I know? I mean if you're so sure it's all BS....Why are you still here? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
DeadlyAztec11 9916	Posted - 2017.02.28 14:43:00 - [25] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Russel Moralles wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? yeah they have the best track record to go with that. eve, gunjack, valkerie, world of darkness, dust, legion and nova. wait I think two of then are gone, right? Whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose. Guess time will tell about who is right, I mean...It's not like I've been right every time up until now...Oh wait I actually have been. But what do I know? I mean if you're so sure it's all BS....Why are you still here? I have a notoriously addictive personality. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Major 0nslaught Ostrakon Agency 251	Posted - 2017.02.28 17:52:00 - [26] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Russel Moralles wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? yeah they have the best track record to go with that. eve, gunjack, valkerie, world of darkness, dust, legion and nova. wait I think two of then are gone, right? Whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose. Guess time will tell about who is right, I mean...It's not like I've been right every time up until now...Oh wait I actually have been. But what do I know? I mean if you're so sure it's all BS....Why are you still here? Because i am proving a point. You can not stop me no matter what you do. I am eternal Life is like a box of Proto Locust grenades. You never know what random red berry you're gonna get.
Vertigo ElsDragon Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2017.02.28 18:50:00 - [27] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Vertigo ElsDragon wrote: "Project" Nova was a No go from the start, we've just been strung along just in case they might need Us. Well now with VR they don't. Congratulations pls have some in charge post on this site the end of false hope. This doesn't even make sense. If they wanted to string us along, they could have released 1.3, and continued charging for boosters. You literally did not even form a real argument... Just let them dry up in their pile of salt. People would rather be bitter than reasonable. You should check out the latest statement from the company. Enjoy your salt Nuf said
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9032	Posted - 2017.02.28 19:17:00 - [28] - Quote Which part specifically? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 10732	Posted - 2017.02.28 19:30:00 - [29] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: This is what happens when you get your hopes up..no hope no disappointment When will people learn? *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16327	Posted - 2017.02.28 21:38:00 - [30] - Quote jett it wrote: Made this argument months ago i even posted a thread saying why does project arena have a feedback dedicated webpage when project nova has nothing. Asked for a project nova discussion channel here on the forums, no reply from devs. Not surprised. It is a losing battle. At least they are working on nova period even if it was pushed to the back of the shelf. Project Arena, from what little I understand of it, is a new game, not an iteration or offshoot of another the way Nova is of Dust. If Arena had not had a feedback site, there would be no alternative. Nova on the other hand already has the Dust forums. Since there is no actual game called Dust 514 any longer, why should they spend time and resources making a whole new section? All that would be is windo dressing because the forums already are the Nova channel. When they announced it, they put it in the events section. When they had the demo, they asked for feedback here. When LogicLoop stopped by to say hi and tell us they were working on Nova still, he came here. I would rather they focus on making the actual project into a game than worry about wasting time officially making a Nova site, or section when as a matter of fact, they whole Dust forums are that section already. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 817	Posted - 2017.03.01 14:02:00 - [31] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: jett it wrote: Made this argument months ago i even posted a thread saying why does project arena have a feedback dedicated webpage when project nova has nothing. Asked for a project nova discussion channel here on the forums, no reply from devs. Not surprised. It is a losing battle. At least they are working on nova period even if it was pushed to the back of the shelf. Project Arena, from what little I understand of it, is a new game, not an iteration or offshoot of another the way Nova is of Dust. If Arena had not had a feedback site, there would be no alternative. Nova on the other hand already has the Dust forums. Since there is no actual game called Dust 514 any longer, why should they spend time and resources making a whole new section? All that would be is windo dressing because the forums already are the Nova channel. When they announced it, they put it in the events section. When they had the demo, they asked for feedback here. When LogicLoop stopped by to say hi and tell us they were working on Nova still, he came here. I would rather they focus on making the actual project into a game than worry about wasting time officially making a Nova site, or section when as a matter of fact, they whole Dust forums are that section already. lol u missed the point. nvr mind. your telling me its hard to make a new channel on the dust forums for nova. thats all that was asked of them and they cant even do that for us. http://www.youtube.com/JettGaming
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9035	Posted - 2017.03.01 14:49:00 - [32] - Quote I think the more appropriate question is: Why do you need a Nova specific channel? Is the title of it that important? What's the point of making it? You've got a Suggestions and Comment section already, its obviously not going to be used for Dust so might as well use it for Nova. I think you're splitting hairs on this one and getting upset for really no good reason. Besides, as we've discussed, this is likely in conflict with the firm outward stance they've taken with the game which is "We're not going to commit to anything". Making specific sections about it is likely going to send a mixed message. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Moorian Flav 479	Posted - 2017.03.01 15:42:00 - [33] - Quote I think the more appropriate question is "Why are you trying to provide Suggestions and Feedback for a game you've barely seen?". To me, CCP Shanghai obviously have a planned design for Project Nova they are rolling with as they have not provided any info since last April for anyone to respond to. Furthermore, Project Nova could have drastically changed from what we've seen at Fanfest 2016 so why bother with any speculation at all at this point? I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9035	Posted - 2017.03.01 15:55:00 - [34] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: I think the more appropriate question is "Why are you trying to provide Suggestions and Feedback for a game you've barely seen?". To me, CCP Shanghai obviously have a planned design for Project Nova they are rolling with as they have not provided any info since last April for anyone to respond to. Furthermore, Project Nova could have drastically changed from what we've seen at Fanfest 2016 so why bother with any speculation at all at this point? I completely agree. I think it is fair however to leave feedback in the context of Dust, such as "Hey, we really liked this part" or "We actually didnt like this part, please dont do it again." But in terms of meaningful feedback that can be given for a game you know nothing about? It's sparse. So sparse that having a specific section for it doesn't even make sense. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
byte modal 1195	Posted - 2017.03.01 16:58:00 - [35] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Vertigo ElsDragon wrote: "Project" Nova was a No go from the start, we've just been strung along just in case they might need Us. Well now with VR they don't. Congratulations pls have some in charge post on this site the end of false hope. This doesn't even make sense. If they wanted to string us along, they could have released 1.3, and continued charging for boosters. You literally did not even form a real argument... Just let them dry up in their pile of salt. People would rather be bitter than reasonable. I think I am reasonably bitter. <3 kitten bacon taco (nom)
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9037	Posted - 2017.03.01 17:17:00 - [36] - Quote byte modal wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Vertigo ElsDragon wrote: "Project" Nova was a No go from the start, we've just been strung along just in case they might need Us. Well now with VR they don't. Congratulations pls have some in charge post on this site the end of false hope. This doesn't even make sense. If they wanted to string us along, they could have released 1.3, and continued charging for boosters. You literally did not even form a real argument... Just let them dry up in their pile of salt. People would rather be bitter than reasonable. I think I am reasonably bitter. <3 You're not too bad, on most days. But to be honest, in a typical month I usually have the desire to send in the assassins for most people on the forums at least once. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
byte modal 1196	Posted - 2017.03.01 17:19:00 - [37] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Moorian Flav wrote: I think the more appropriate question is "Why are you trying to provide Suggestions and Feedback for a game you've barely seen?". To me, CCP Shanghai obviously have a planned design for Project Nova they are rolling with as they have not provided any info since last April for anyone to respond to. Furthermore, Project Nova could have drastically changed from what we've seen at Fanfest 2016 so why bother with any speculation at all at this point? I completely agree. I think it is fair however to leave feedback in the context of Dust, such as "Hey, we really liked this part" or "We actually didnt like this part, please dont do it again." But in terms of meaningful feedback that can be given for a game you know nothing about? It's sparse. So sparse that having a specific section for it doesn't even make sense. To both of these thoughts, there is something to be said about feeling part of something. Especially at both the end and start of that something. Births are wondrous and emotional; deaths are as emotionally intense. We are here having shared in both ends with DUST and now NOVA (assuming). I would imagine those of us that are still lingering are here either grieving for a loss or optimistically hopeful for this new creation and the future in front of it/us. Most of us are probably falling in between those two extremes with a bit of both on our backs. It feels good to reminisce and to hope. Feedback, though it may be an empty belief, is still a belief in being part of something. Without real communication, that's all there may be for some. And while it may be a bitter opinion, it's not unreasonable to assume that may be all that there ever is. Also, as to having a dedicated forum I kinda feel that would be silly in this context. Ideally, that would be a declaration by CCP to say that, "hey! here is a forum of communication---that we will take part in! rejoice!!!" But that's not going to happen. That would go a long way to inspire hope in those of us that are on the verge of giving up, though, if nothing else. For us, either keep the fantasy alive and well and continue posting bittersweet memories and suggestions until that fantasy exists, or don't and let go and let CCP continue to do as it does. Regardless, it still will or will not happen no matter what we do here. Choose your sides! I'm pretty good with a sword... Please excuse my rambly wambly post. It's been a while. kitten bacon taco (nom)
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA 329	Posted - 2017.03.01 21:52:00 - [38] - Quote Maybe Nova will be a VR game. On one hand that would be quite the experience. On the bad side imagine yourself hacking a terminal when all of a sudden you hear the soind of charging nova knifes. The trauma that would create will leave you with years of therapy.
Russel Moralles Klandatu 180	Posted - 2017.03.03 06:35:00 - [39] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Russel Moralles wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? yeah they have the best track record to go with that. eve, gunjack, valkerie, world of darkness, dust, legion and nova. wait I think two of then are gone, right? Whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose. Guess time will tell about who is right, I mean...It's not like I've been right every time up until now...Oh wait I actually have been. But what do I know? I mean if you're so sure it's all BS....Why are you still here? There you go again puki. Youre not cpm anymore. Just say it or dont. Damn it. Youre bringing up those godforsaken days before they shut dust down. Remember that. MR. CPM.
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 1828	Posted - 2017.03.03 06:48:00 - [40] - Quote Pokey wasn't even CPM tho AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9046	Posted - 2017.03.03 08:11:00 - [41] - Quote I am not on the CPM. I have never been on the CPM. I ran for CPM twice, failed both times. Again...I have never been a CPM. Not even for a second. I'm not sure how clear I have to be here... I just make pretty images in Photoshop and host a podcast now. That's all. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Russel Moralles Klandatu 182	Posted - 2017.03.03 11:52:00 - [42] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I am not on the CPM. I have never been on the CPM. I ran for CPM twice, failed both times. Again...I have never been a CPM. Not even for a second. I'm not sure how clear I have to be here... I just make pretty images in Photoshop and host a podcast now. That's all. My bad. I mistook aeon's post as yours. but my point still stands. except you being a cpm. ccp, the devs, the cpm said eveythings fine then announced our demise, so, that was very bitter. again, apologies for calling you a cpm, you dont deserve that kind of hatred.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9048	Posted - 2017.03.03 14:21:00 - [43] - Quote Russel Moralles wrote: I mistook aeon's post as yours. Oh dear... Russel Moralles wrote: ccp, the devs, the cpm said eveythings fine then announced our demise, so, that was very bitter. But you see, I am neither CCP, dev, or CPM. Im just Pokey, so you can trust me :) EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 821	Posted - 2017.03.03 15:03:00 - [44] - Quote This opportunity comes around once every 10 years and its sad to see players like pokey and others just say ahhhh whatever let ccp do what they had planned. Do those plans include dropships, tanks and lavs? My point exactly. Right like their plans always work. Yeah a dedicated channel for nova would not only boost lost attention but would actually help the game out. What is wrong with you peepz. ccp is making us a bran new shooter and yet all most of you care about is if its coming out or not. What good is a dust 514 sequel if 70% of dust is no longer in the new game. We as players need to Rise Up and fight for what we deserve. If you need an example, we all argue about if nova is coming out Thats trash. We should be filling ccps head with great and improved ideas for nova instead. If nova is released with no vehicles, well i blame people like pokey for that saying they dont need our feedback. You get what you ask for not what you dont ask for. http://www.youtube.com/JettGaming
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7434	Posted - 2017.03.03 15:09:00 - [45] - Quote jett it wrote: This opportunity comes around once every 10 years and its sad to see players like pokey and others just say ahhhh whatever let ccp do what they had planned. Do those plans include dropships, tanks and lavs? My point exactly. Right like their plans always work. Yeah a dedicated channel for nova would not only boost lost attention but would actually help the game out. What is wrong with you peepz. ccp is making us a bran new shooter and yet all most of you care about is if its coming out or not. What good is a dust 514 sequel if 70% of dust is no longer in the new game. We as players need to Rise Up and fight for what we deserve. If you need an example, we all argue about if nova is coming out Thats trash. We should be filling ccps head with great and improved ideas for nova instead. If nova is released with no vehicles, well i blame people like pokey for that saying they dont need our feedback. You get what you ask for not what you dont ask for. What good are vehicles with no game? However I won't touch the new project if I don't have an ads They want to make a great shooter first, sometimes doing too much at once ruins everything.
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 821	Posted - 2017.03.03 15:13:00 - [46] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: jett it wrote: This opportunity comes around once every 10 years and its sad to see players like pokey and others just say ahhhh whatever let ccp do what they had planned. Do those plans include dropships, tanks and lavs? My point exactly. Right like their plans always work. Yeah a dedicated channel for nova would not only boost lost attention but would actually help the game out. What is wrong with you peepz. ccp is making us a bran new shooter and yet all most of you care about is if its coming out or not. What good is a dust 514 sequel if 70% of dust is no longer in the new game. We as players need to Rise Up and fight for what we deserve. If you need an example, we all argue about if nova is coming out Thats trash. We should be filling ccps head with great and improved ideas for nova instead. If nova is released with no vehicles, well i blame people like pokey for that saying they dont need our feedback. You get what you ask for not what you dont ask for. What good are vehicles with no game? However I won't touch the new project if I don't have an ads They want to make a great shooter first, sometimes doing too much at once ruins everything. Vehicles were just an example thats the tip of the iceberg. http://www.youtube.com/JettGaming
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7434	Posted - 2017.03.03 16:17:00 - [47] - Quote jett it wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: jett it wrote: This opportunity comes around once every 10 years and its sad to see players like pokey and others just say ahhhh whatever let ccp do what they had planned. Do those plans include dropships, tanks and lavs? My point exactly. Right like their plans always work. Yeah a dedicated channel for nova would not only boost lost attention but would actually help the game out. What is wrong with you peepz. ccp is making us a bran new shooter and yet all most of you care about is if its coming out or not. What good is a dust 514 sequel if 70% of dust is no longer in the new game. We as players need to Rise Up and fight for what we deserve. If you need an example, we all argue about if nova is coming out Thats trash. We should be filling ccps head with great and improved ideas for nova instead. If nova is released with no vehicles, well i blame people like pokey for that saying they dont need our feedback. You get what you ask for not what you dont ask for. What good are vehicles with no game? However I won't touch the new project if I don't have an ads They want to make a great shooter first, sometimes doing too much at once ruins everything. Vehicles were just an example thats the tip of the iceburger. Also sorry for using you Pokey as an example. Im waiting for a beta first then ill do feedback, if they don't have vehicles/ decent customization by then idk, guess I'd give up on gaming till a new Elder Scrolls comes out..
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9048	Posted - 2017.03.03 16:18:00 - [48] - Quote I think you misunderstand. I see it like this: CCP: So we are making something to eat... Community: WHY THE **** ARE THERE NO TOMATOS?! CCP: Well it's a cake so... You think I may not care what they do, couldn't be further from the truth. However it would be wrong to pass judgement on what should and should not be without context. I want to see the bigger picture first before I start saying "But you should do this...." Context is important. I know most will likely disagree with me, but I don't feel it appropriate to pass judgement when so little is known. Is it fine to make suggestions like "Hey, I really liked this about DUST, can we have that in Nova?" But demanding something that may not even make sense in the scope of the new game is just ridiculious. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 362	Posted - 2017.03.03 22:56:00 - [49] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Context is important. I know most will likely disagree with me, but I don't feel it appropriate to pass judgement when so little is known. One can take some facts and reach conclusions, and with those conclusions make predictions, like OP did. Facts: Last CCP games: Gunjack, Eve: Valkyrie, Gunjack 2, Sparc. Things they have in common: They are VR games, and are original somehow. Eve, CCP's biggest hit, was also original, revolutionary. Dust 514, maybe it's biggest fail, was original (was it?), but not revolutionary (it was not?). Nova, Dust successor, aims to be a good first person lobby shooter. Nothing original there. Even Legion, that aimed to have more content than Dust, was scrapped. This project has less content. My conclusion is that CCP favors original projects. The more original the project, the more chances of success it has, the more chances of being greenlit. Nova is the least original you can be. It has low chances of success, ergo, it has low chances of being greenlit. My prediction is that (it's likely) Nova wont will be greenlit, and if it is, it (is likely it) won't be a success. I'm no stranger to the "some are in the know while some are not" stuff, but what I said is a logical conclusion reached with the facts I have. If you expect people to not make conclusions/predictions because they don't have all the information, then that defeats the point. -Me: I wonder what Trump is gonna do next? -Pokey: Wait! Don't draw any conclusions, you don't have all the information. -Me: Well, that's obvious. Only he has all the information, no one else is in his head. I can still methodically make a guess with the info I have, right? -Pokey: (Your turn). #KeepDustInThePS3
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9054	Posted - 2017.03.03 23:53:00 - [50] - Quote And like I said I understand that I'm the oddball. I don't expect others to subscribe to my viewpoint, and if you think I'll of me for my thoughts that's your choice. You have your information and thus your conclusions, just as I have my information and my conclusions. Time will tell who is ultimately correct. (Also side bar, I know you were just making a point but I would ask we try to keep political references out of this stuff. That sort of thing tends to corrupt an otherwise good conversation that is completely unrelated to politics) EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer

jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 825	Posted - 2017.03.04 16:55:00 - [51] - Quote So i was browsing over ign's list of all games pc, xbox and ps to be released in 2017. There are literally hundreds. Some bigger ones like destiny 2, battlefront 2, borderlands 3, Red dead redemption 2. These games did not actually give a set date on release like the hundreds of others did. The point is they still said they are going to be released in 2017 at some point. So what is up with ccp. Give a dog a friggin bone. Its no secret your working on nova logicloop re assured us of that many times. Your methods make no sense for a success. Just look at how all the other games publish. Now if they are planning on making an official announcement regarding release time frames, well then nova is probably a 2nd fanfest away. If thats the case why not just tell the public? The green light is only yellow correct? That is currently how the public see's you ccp a yellow light. Unsure of yourselves. I love you all to death, but the choice you have made about nova, seems like a exact repeat of legion. That is the current word on major gaming website about project nova. I find that very sad and disturbing considering how much i want t see nova succeed. Do you nt care about your own publicity anymore? Like what is up? http://www.youtube.com/JettGaming
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 1830	Posted - 2017.03.04 18:44:00 - [52] - Quote We know they're working on it that is enough. Reasons on why they haven't confirmed release or any other information rely on other factors such as the higher ups, or the fact it could be scrapped any moment. They also wouldn't announce it before their huge events. CCP does not need to tell us anything because we don't matter, they have very little to gain with us given our numbers and toxicity. If yall want to give feedback and all that sh*t, just do it the keyboard is right there. AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 828	Posted - 2017.03.04 18:53:00 - [53] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: We know they're working on it that is enough. Reasons on why they haven't confirmed release or any other information rely on other factors such as the higher ups, or the fact it could be scrapped any moment. They also wouldn't announce it before their huge events. CCP does not need to tell us anything because we don't matter, they have very little to gain with us given our numbers and toxicity. If yall want to give feedback and all that sh*t, just do it the keyboard is right there. Lol they just announced sparc to be released later in 2017 that was on Feb 27th. That is just one example of an announcement before their so called huge event. Your basically repeating what i said above in different words. The light is yellow not green not red. They obviously have lots to gain from us, so much they talked about character transfers, leaving this forum up and running for the community. Yeah they care about us. They might not care what we think, but we do matter to them. http://www.youtube.com/JettGaming
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7443	Posted - 2017.03.04 19:53:00 - [54] - Quote jett it wrote: Forever ETC wrote: We know they're working on it that is enough. Reasons on why they haven't confirmed release or any other information rely on other factors such as the higher ups, or the fact it could be scrapped any moment. They also wouldn't announce it before their huge events. CCP does not need to tell us anything because we don't matter, they have very little to gain with us given our numbers and toxicity. If yall want to give feedback and all that sh*t, just do it the keyboard is right there. Lol they just announced sparc to be released later in 2017 that was on Feb 27th. That is just one example of an announcement before their so called huge event. Your basically repeating what i said above in different words. The light is yellow not green not red. They obviously have lots to gain from us, so much they talked about character transfers, leaving this forum up and running for the community. Yeah they care about us. They might not care what we think, but we do matter to them. I only comeback to the forums cuz FF is coming up, what happens there will decide whether I continue to follow this project or not=ƒì+
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 362	Posted - 2017.03.05 02:34:00 - [55] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I only comeback to the forums cuz FF is coming up, what happens there will decide whether I continue to follow this project or not=ƒì+ Out of curiosity, what would make you keep following it / what would make you give up? #KeepDustInThePS3
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7446	Posted - 2017.03.05 03:10:00 - [56] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I only comeback to the forums cuz FF is coming up, what happens there will decide whether I continue to follow this project or not=ƒì+ Out of curiosity, what would make you keep following it / what would make you give up? News or talking to us about it..basically if they haven't improved much from last years FF or don't say/show much at FF this year then I'll be done..I loved dust, mostly the community but FF14 killed it I've been around dust idk getting close to 5 years
rayakalj9 Opus Arcana 89	Posted - 2017.03.09 10:27:00 - [57] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? Other much much more experienced developers have shown that multiple projects can mess with the quality of even their most important titles. Capcom launched SFV focusing on the hardcore competitors and didn't work enough on things for casual players while also working to revamp the Resident Evil series. Does that have anything to do with how CCP works? Nope, because the people involved aren't the same and maybe the people working for CCP are super efficient. BUT It's CCP, we can count on one hand how many successful games they have produced and we know their history of doing CCP things. So until proven otherwise thinking anymore of them would be being naive and optimistic. We ever find out who Ratatti's in game alt was or nah? Bruh born jamaican
DUST Fiend 18945	Posted - 2017.03.09 13:02:00 - [58] - Quote I just hope they hit it out of the park, the last time CCP developed their FPS in the dark it didn't go so well. I've been spoiled too much by transparent companies, letting CCP fester in the dark just never seems like a good idea after the DUST fiasco. And at least then we got to "provide feedback" vs pissing in the wind like we currently are. One plus one is three.
DUST Fiend 18945	Posted - 2017.03.09 13:07:00 - [59] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: or the fact it could be scrapped any moment This is what drives me crazy most about CCP. In an interview shortly after they announced the closing of DUST they actually had the balls to spin that as a positive, that CCP has no problem dropping projects mid development :/ I guess that's a good line for investors but it's kind of a **** one if you just like the games. One plus one is three.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1359	Posted - 2017.03.09 18:53:00 - [60] - Quote Dust is gone. We will never see it again. Whether Nova is a thing or not it will not be Dust, ported to another platform, reborn. If/when Nova ever comes out, it will be a pale cut-down version of Dust at best, and likely not to attract my attention for very long. RIP Nova? RIP Dust!

Moorian Flav 490	Posted - 2017.03.09 19:28:00 - [61] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Dust is gone. We will never see it again. Whether Nova is a thing or not it will not be Dust, ported to another platform, reborn. If/when Nova ever comes out, it will be a pale cut-down version of Dust at best, and likely not to attract my attention for very long. RIP Nova? RIP Dust! Maybe all who still come to the DUST forum truly feel this way; no matter if Project Nova releases or not, it will never be what DUST was. Kind of sad. Hopefully, this doesn't cut into Pokey's boundless optimism any. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9067	Posted - 2017.03.09 20:13:00 - [62] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Dust is gone. We will never see it again. Whether Nova is a thing or not it will not be Dust, ported to another platform, reborn. If/when Nova ever comes out, it will be a pale cut-down version of Dust at best, and likely not to attract my attention for very long. RIP Nova? RIP Dust! Maybe all who still come to the DUST forum truly feel this way; no matter if Project Nova releases or not, it will never be what DUST was. Kind of sad. Hopefully, this doesn't cut into Pokey's boundless optimism any. Hmmm I suppose more of what I feel, or perhaps fear, is that people will have nastolgia bias. "It's different from Dust and therefore inferior". An understandable response, very human. We tend to cling to what we like and assume that something other than what we like is something we dislike. I've spoken on this before so I won't get into it, but I think people were more in love with the idea of Dust and less so the execution. More enamored with "what might be" rather than what they actually had in their hands. This paired with nastolgia bias will likely leave many Dust vets feeling bitter about anything that is not a carbon copy of Dust....At least at first. I am hopeful that people will at the very least give it a fair shot in the long run. First reaction may very well be a salty one, but I do hope everyone at least try to see the big picture and try to remember that different is not always inferior. I won't try to tell anyone that Nova will be an amazing game or better than Dust, I have no way to know that. But I think at the very least we should at least try to keep an open mind and give whatever they come up with a fair shot. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
DUST Fiend 18947	Posted - 2017.03.10 01:59:00 - [63] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: "It's different from Dust and therefore inferior". . I'll only say that if they do strip all vehicles and give us a CQC lobby shooter, mostly because it will be different from DUST, oh, and therefore inferior. One plus one is three.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 1049	Posted - 2017.03.10 03:03:00 - [64] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: "It's different from Dust and therefore inferior". . I'll only say that if they do strip all vehicles and give us a CQC lobby shooter, mostly because it will be different from DUST, oh, and therefore inferior. Personally, I'm an ADS fiend... but there is ONE thing that will screw everything over: catering to the mainstream in terms of gunplay. See, I would be satisfied with Dust-esque ground game (longer than "typical" ttk, pick and choose battles, etc etc) if that gives no vehicles at launch. Damn I'd grab a PC in a jiffy. The issue is if they over simplify fittings and all; every weapon feels almost the same, and we're not even close to seeing 100+ m gun game as often as Dust did. That will not be a nostalgia bias as pokey said imho. It'll just be CCP conforming to almost every other "popular" shooter to try to get more players. In other words, keeping the essence of dust 514 is what we "vets" would want. As soon as it feels like a mainstream shooter, all twitchy and stuff... it's "inferior." But yes, if it is different but comparable.. who'll care? Think like snack food vs gourmet desert. Snack food is just grab and go, keep munching and munching till you get tired... repeat. A desert has you savoring the flavor, and really gives good "closure" to a meal. You're kinda satisfied and can't wait to taste something like that again. Dust 514 was that desert with a little odd aftertaste. Nova simply needs to replace this menu option. Sure we'll miss Dust 514, but if Nova is just as satisfying, if not more satisfying... we'll still go to Ristorant+¬ CCP. Tl;dr: I agree with DUST. If it throws away the intricacies of Dust to cater to the easier, more mainstream shooter... it's inferior... ADS or not. :< Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9068	Posted - 2017.03.10 13:27:00 - [65] - Quote Well and that's part of my point. There very well may a difference that ruins the experience for you. Totally get that, and there are some elements that are super important to me that would make me like the game far less if they were absent. Hell, there are some elements I hope to god they change haha. Either way, just as my personal philosophy, I'm going to try to play the game with the mental assumption that I never played Dust and try to assess Nova completely on its own. Just trying to avoid making comparisons and focusing more on "Do I like how this game plays?" Rather than "What did they change front Dust and do I like those changes?" Does that make sense? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
DUST Fiend 18947	Posted - 2017.03.10 14:00:00 - [66] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Does that make sense? No. One plus one is three.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9068	Posted - 2017.03.10 14:21:00 - [67] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Does that make sense? No. You're not my real dad! EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Moorian Flav 491	Posted - 2017.03.10 15:02:00 - [68] - Quote No matter how good Project Nova is, players will still have to put up with CCP. I still remember the long silences the first quarter of every year during DUST which brought the most frustration I've ever had as a gamer. CCP can cater to gamers continually giving updates and info when and only when they think there is enough players worth doing so. And I think we can all agree that is not a way to launch a new product yet CCP still seems to be following their same old playbook (at least in respect to their FPS titles). I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1359	Posted - 2017.03.10 20:53:00 - [69] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Well and that's part of my point. There very well may a difference that ruins the experience for you. Totally get that, and there are some elements that are super important to me that would make me like the game far less if they were absent. Hell, there are some elements I hope to god they change haha. Either way, just as my personal philosophy, I'm going to try to play the game with the mental assumption that I never played Dust and try to assess Nova completely on its own. Just trying to avoid making comparisons and focusing more on "Do I like how this game plays?" Rather than "What did they change front Dust and do I like those changes?" Does that make sense? I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen...
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1359	Posted - 2017.03.10 20:57:00 - [70] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: No matter how good Project Nova is, players will still have to put up with CCP. I still remember the long silences the first quarter of every year during DUST which brought the most frustration I've ever had as a gamer. CCP can cater to gamers continually giving updates and info when and only when they think there is enough players worth doing so. And I think we can all agree that is not a way to launch a new product yet CCP still seems to be following their same old playbook (at least in respect to their FPS titles). There was and still is a fundamental difference between the way CCP addresses the EvE community and the way CCP addresses the Dust/Nova community. With EvE, they're comparatively verbose, always talking about new features, balancing, whatever. With Dust and now Nova, they're comparatively silent. My take on this is that Dust was always and Nova still is, a product/project that they don't want to talk about, and would largely wish would go away. The fact WE aren't going away may be the major reason CCP still is working on Nova. But they still wish it would go away.

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9072	Posted - 2017.03.10 21:37:00 - [71] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16344	Posted - 2017.03.10 22:56:00 - [72] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. Inferior in which ways? Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9075	Posted - 2017.03.10 23:40:00 - [73] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. Inferior in which ways? Mostly the flow of the game modes honestly. I personally enjoy progressive game modes (like most modes in MAG and Skirmish 1.0 in Dust). So when they moved away from that in Dust, I was pretty frustrated. I also enjoyed how objectives and sub objectives in in MAG led to more diversity in gameplay, whereas in Dust they were pretty lackluster, which let to much more direct flow of battle. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1360	Posted - 2017.03.11 19:59:00 - [74] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. I actually don't believe that Nova will be superior to Dust in any way that matters to me. While the FPS aspect was not lost to me, the complexity of the skilling system (still simple compared with EvE) and the clear differences between the suits and gear of the races/factions was what made the big difference for me. If, as it seems, Nova is to focus on the FPS aspect and simplify or even remove everything else, then no, Nova will certainly NOT be superior in any way for me.
Verasictorus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2017.03.12 00:17:00 - [75] - Quote pretty sure we'll hear about it in less than a month
Loaded'Horn SPACE CASE INC 262	Posted - 2017.03.12 01:43:00 - [76] - Quote [quote=Verasictorus]pretty sure we'll hear about it in less than a month[/quote http://m.imgur.com/NMlDr3d?r We will Soon see. We have always been waiting for SOON. 4/8/17 First day open beta. I used to play for the points.=ƒò¦Old Skool! By natural selection I'm Salty & Peppery.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9079	Posted - 2017.03.12 04:33:00 - [77] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. I actually don't believe that Nova will be superior to Dust in any way that matters to me. While the FPS aspect was not lost to me, the complexity of the skilling system (still simple compared with EvE) and the clear differences between the suits and gear of the races/factions was what made the big difference for me. If, as it seems, Nova is to focus on the FPS aspect and simplify or even remove everything else, then no, Nova will certainly NOT be superior in any way for me. ' If you dont mind me asking, what makes you think those things will be absent from Nova? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Loaded'Horn SPACE CASE INC 262	Posted - 2017.03.12 04:58:00 - [78] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. I actually don't believe that Nova will be superior to Dust in any way that matters to me. While the FPS aspect was not lost to me, the complexity of the skilling system (still simple compared with EvE) and the clear differences between the suits and gear of the races/factions was what made the big difference for me. If, as it seems, Nova is to focus on the FPS aspect and simplify or even remove everything else, then no, Nova will certainly NOT be superior in any way for me. ' If you dont mind me asking, what makes you think those things will be absent from Nova? Because nothing could hurt more feelings and cause butt hurt like dust did, nothing will top that. Well maybe that chicken or egg thing. Was that ever resolved? The dust may never be settle on either topic. First day open beta. I used to play for the points.=ƒò¦Old Skool! By natural selection I'm Salty & Peppery.
DUST Fiend 18948	Posted - 2017.03.12 18:58:00 - [79] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: ' If you dont mind me asking, what makes you think those things will be absent from Nova? It's all a jumble right now since CCP has shoved so much bullshit down our throats that never ended up being anything, but there was a time shortly after either LolLegion was announced or NullNova came into being, but there was a dev talking about "streamlining" the skill system even more than it already was. I feel like if NullNova becomes a thing, CCP will be so obsessed with making the NPE user friendly that they will strip away anything that made DUST a "thinking mans shooter" and just giving us a basic shooter with an EVE skin. And lastly, it's kind of ignorant to ask that question seriously when there is so little concrete information for NullNova right now. One plus one is three.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1366	Posted - 2017.03.12 20:53:00 - [80] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. I actually don't believe that Nova will be superior to Dust in any way that matters to me. While the FPS aspect was not lost to me, the complexity of the skilling system (still simple compared with EvE) and the clear differences between the suits and gear of the races/factions was what made the big difference for me. If, as it seems, Nova is to focus on the FPS aspect and simplify or even remove everything else, then no, Nova will certainly NOT be superior in any way for me. ' If you dont mind me asking, what makes you think those things will be absent from Nova? The statements that have been made by various people, that CCP will be focusing on FPS, adding extra complexity later. The fact that CCP does not keep us informed means all sorts of people make up their own minds what will be in Nova and all any of us has to go on in the end is hearsay. Much of that hearsay has been about the "dumbing down" of the skilling system, the use of somewhat vanilla flavour clones at least initially, that sort of thing. They MAY add a lot of complexity longer term, but if they don't have a decent amount of it initially, it will just be another FPS to me.



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