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Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9028	Posted - 2017.02.27 22:27:00 - [1] - Quote You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9029	Posted - 2017.02.28 01:58:00 - [2] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? Other much much more experienced developers have shown that multiple projects can mess with the quality of even their most important titles. Capcom launched SFV focusing on the hardcore competitors and didn't work enough on things for casual players while also working to revamp the Resident Evil series. Does that have anything to do with how CCP works? Nope, because the people involved aren't the same and maybe the people working for CCP are super efficient. BUT It's CCP, we can count on one hand how many successful games they have produced and we know their history of doing CCP things. So until proven otherwise thinking anymore of them would be being naive and optimistic. We ever find out who Ratatti's in game alt was or nah? So....Of all the studio's they have working independently of one another, you feel the quality is going to drop if they have their own projects? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9029	Posted - 2017.02.28 02:06:00 - [3] - Quote Djinn SouI wrote: World of Darkness did swell, Pokey. Oops, no it didn't. Hey, DUST is a thriving glory of pure unadulterated bundled beauty. Oops, nope, dead as well. How about dat Gunjack tho? False Equivalencies for everyone! That's fine, I'll have my fun in due time when I slap my big fat pokey on the table and give y'all a big "told ya so". EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9030	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:03:00 - [4] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: So....Of all the studio's they have working independently of one another, you feel the quality is going to drop if they have their own projects? Yes the individual studios logically would be working independently but the budget for all of them come from CCP. With how hard they are trying to establish themselves in the VR space those projects are probably getting more funding/personnel priority. And it's CCP. This can not be ignored no matter what type of logic or thinking you wanna use. They have a history that's known and until that's remedied that's what's to be expected from them. Disclaimer I don't know **** about the inner workings of CCP so I'm just being the dude on the internet right now. You should check out their financial report for 2016. Trust me, they're not hurting for income and recent releases will likely continue the upward trend. More money in the corporate coffers means that the company will be more likely to take risks on projects that are less of a sure thing, such as a FPS game. Honestly the success and continued release of successful games by CCP is only going to be good news for hopes of Nova reaching full release. That is of course up for debate, but that's my take on it. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9030	Posted - 2017.02.28 06:41:00 - [5] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Vertigo ElsDragon wrote: "Project" Nova was a No go from the start, we've just been strung along just in case they might need Us. Well now with VR they don't. Congratulations pls have some in charge post on this site the end of false hope. This doesn't even make sense. If they wanted to string us along, they could have released 1.3, and continued charging for boosters. You literally did not even form a real argument... Just let them dry up in their pile of salt. People would rather be bitter than reasonable. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9030	Posted - 2017.02.28 14:11:00 - [6] - Quote Russel Moralles wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: You do realize that CCP is a large company and capable of producing multiple projects at once, right? Or are you just looking for excuses to be whiney and pessimistic? yeah they have the best track record to go with that. eve, gunjack, valkerie, world of darkness, dust, legion and nova. wait I think two of then are gone, right? Whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose. Guess time will tell about who is right, I mean...It's not like I've been right every time up until now...Oh wait I actually have been. But what do I know? I mean if you're so sure it's all BS....Why are you still here? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9032	Posted - 2017.02.28 19:17:00 - [7] - Quote Which part specifically? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9035	Posted - 2017.03.01 14:49:00 - [8] - Quote I think the more appropriate question is: Why do you need a Nova specific channel? Is the title of it that important? What's the point of making it? You've got a Suggestions and Comment section already, its obviously not going to be used for Dust so might as well use it for Nova. I think you're splitting hairs on this one and getting upset for really no good reason. Besides, as we've discussed, this is likely in conflict with the firm outward stance they've taken with the game which is "We're not going to commit to anything". Making specific sections about it is likely going to send a mixed message. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9035	Posted - 2017.03.01 15:55:00 - [9] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: I think the more appropriate question is "Why are you trying to provide Suggestions and Feedback for a game you've barely seen?". To me, CCP Shanghai obviously have a planned design for Project Nova they are rolling with as they have not provided any info since last April for anyone to respond to. Furthermore, Project Nova could have drastically changed from what we've seen at Fanfest 2016 so why bother with any speculation at all at this point? I completely agree. I think it is fair however to leave feedback in the context of Dust, such as "Hey, we really liked this part" or "We actually didnt like this part, please dont do it again." But in terms of meaningful feedback that can be given for a game you know nothing about? It's sparse. So sparse that having a specific section for it doesn't even make sense. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9037	Posted - 2017.03.01 17:17:00 - [10] - Quote byte modal wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Vertigo ElsDragon wrote: "Project" Nova was a No go from the start, we've just been strung along just in case they might need Us. Well now with VR they don't. Congratulations pls have some in charge post on this site the end of false hope. This doesn't even make sense. If they wanted to string us along, they could have released 1.3, and continued charging for boosters. You literally did not even form a real argument... Just let them dry up in their pile of salt. People would rather be bitter than reasonable. I think I am reasonably bitter. <3 You're not too bad, on most days. But to be honest, in a typical month I usually have the desire to send in the assassins for most people on the forums at least once. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9046	Posted - 2017.03.03 08:11:00 - [11] - Quote I am not on the CPM. I have never been on the CPM. I ran for CPM twice, failed both times. Again...I have never been a CPM. Not even for a second. I'm not sure how clear I have to be here... I just make pretty images in Photoshop and host a podcast now. That's all. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9048	Posted - 2017.03.03 14:21:00 - [12] - Quote Russel Moralles wrote: I mistook aeon's post as yours. Oh dear... Russel Moralles wrote: ccp, the devs, the cpm said eveythings fine then announced our demise, so, that was very bitter. But you see, I am neither CCP, dev, or CPM. Im just Pokey, so you can trust me :) EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9048	Posted - 2017.03.03 16:18:00 - [13] - Quote I think you misunderstand. I see it like this: CCP: So we are making something to eat... Community: WHY THE **** ARE THERE NO TOMATOS?! CCP: Well it's a cake so... You think I may not care what they do, couldn't be further from the truth. However it would be wrong to pass judgement on what should and should not be without context. I want to see the bigger picture first before I start saying "But you should do this...." Context is important. I know most will likely disagree with me, but I don't feel it appropriate to pass judgement when so little is known. Is it fine to make suggestions like "Hey, I really liked this about DUST, can we have that in Nova?" But demanding something that may not even make sense in the scope of the new game is just ridiculious. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9054	Posted - 2017.03.03 23:53:00 - [14] - Quote And like I said I understand that I'm the oddball. I don't expect others to subscribe to my viewpoint, and if you think I'll of me for my thoughts that's your choice. You have your information and thus your conclusions, just as I have my information and my conclusions. Time will tell who is ultimately correct. (Also side bar, I know you were just making a point but I would ask we try to keep political references out of this stuff. That sort of thing tends to corrupt an otherwise good conversation that is completely unrelated to politics) EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9067	Posted - 2017.03.09 20:13:00 - [15] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Dust is gone. We will never see it again. Whether Nova is a thing or not it will not be Dust, ported to another platform, reborn. If/when Nova ever comes out, it will be a pale cut-down version of Dust at best, and likely not to attract my attention for very long. RIP Nova? RIP Dust! Maybe all who still come to the DUST forum truly feel this way; no matter if Project Nova releases or not, it will never be what DUST was. Kind of sad. Hopefully, this doesn't cut into Pokey's boundless optimism any. Hmmm I suppose more of what I feel, or perhaps fear, is that people will have nastolgia bias. "It's different from Dust and therefore inferior". An understandable response, very human. We tend to cling to what we like and assume that something other than what we like is something we dislike. I've spoken on this before so I won't get into it, but I think people were more in love with the idea of Dust and less so the execution. More enamored with "what might be" rather than what they actually had in their hands. This paired with nastolgia bias will likely leave many Dust vets feeling bitter about anything that is not a carbon copy of Dust....At least at first. I am hopeful that people will at the very least give it a fair shot in the long run. First reaction may very well be a salty one, but I do hope everyone at least try to see the big picture and try to remember that different is not always inferior. I won't try to tell anyone that Nova will be an amazing game or better than Dust, I have no way to know that. But I think at the very least we should at least try to keep an open mind and give whatever they come up with a fair shot. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9068	Posted - 2017.03.10 13:27:00 - [16] - Quote Well and that's part of my point. There very well may a difference that ruins the experience for you. Totally get that, and there are some elements that are super important to me that would make me like the game far less if they were absent. Hell, there are some elements I hope to god they change haha. Either way, just as my personal philosophy, I'm going to try to play the game with the mental assumption that I never played Dust and try to assess Nova completely on its own. Just trying to avoid making comparisons and focusing more on "Do I like how this game plays?" Rather than "What did they change front Dust and do I like those changes?" Does that make sense? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9068	Posted - 2017.03.10 14:21:00 - [17] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Does that make sense? No. You're not my real dad! EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9072	Posted - 2017.03.10 21:37:00 - [18] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9075	Posted - 2017.03.10 23:40:00 - [19] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. Inferior in which ways? Mostly the flow of the game modes honestly. I personally enjoy progressive game modes (like most modes in MAG and Skirmish 1.0 in Dust). So when they moved away from that in Dust, I was pretty frustrated. I also enjoyed how objectives and sub objectives in in MAG led to more diversity in gameplay, whereas in Dust they were pretty lackluster, which let to much more direct flow of battle. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9079	Posted - 2017.03.12 04:33:00 - [20] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: I guess the basic problem for me isn't that I want Nova, but that I just want Dust back, and I know it's not going to happen... I feel exactly the same way about MAG. I actually struggled for some time with Dust because I was so attached to MAG but over time I learned to enjoy dust for what it was....Superior in some ways to MAG and inferior in others. I actually don't believe that Nova will be superior to Dust in any way that matters to me. While the FPS aspect was not lost to me, the complexity of the skilling system (still simple compared with EvE) and the clear differences between the suits and gear of the races/factions was what made the big difference for me. If, as it seems, Nova is to focus on the FPS aspect and simplify or even remove everything else, then no, Nova will certainly NOT be superior in any way for me. ' If you dont mind me asking, what makes you think those things will be absent from Nova? EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer

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