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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.09.29 21:21:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:byte modal wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:If the Republicans had nominated Condoleezza Rice to run she could have blown Clinton out of the water. She would have picked up a good part of the Democrat vote on top of her Republican base.
Instead we have large numbers of Republicans debating whether they can hold their nose and vote for Hillery.
If the Trump vote is a protest vote it has already been effective. Trump getting nominated has hit the Republican party like a hydrogen bomb. The candidates they run in the next election will probably be very different from the lineup that ran against Trump. Hopefully they get the point that people are looking for someone who isn't just reading from the 1970's Republican PlayBook. It would be sad... although not particularly surprising... if they look at Trump's success and think they need to run racist misogynistic assholes.
Iderno. I thought the same after Palin. Instead, they seem to have just double-down. =/ Well I guess it's the same situation when everyone complains about Activision and Ubisoft for making bazillions of poorly made DLCs and putting out half-made games or copy/paste games. But then everyone buy the new Call of Duty.
Yeah, i agree with that more or less. But more, my point was to the comment of Trump's nomination hitting the Republican party like a hydrogen bomb. I absolutely believed that back with Palin was picked as VP running mate. I thought they would not pull something like that again in the near future. Instead, they've rolled with the group think emotion and here we are.
I can empathize with those that view Trump as the F.U. vote as a commentary on trust in the political system. Or whatever. My problem there is that I've yet to talk with one person who is looking at Trump for that reason. I'm not seeing it online either. Granted, my experience is anecdotal. The ones that I do know who think on those terms aren't looking a Trump to be that finger to the man or even as a joke because they are aware that he could win and don't want to support that.
Hell. I have no idea.
- Pure opposition to the other candidate (in spite).
- Party line divisions (football match).
- Christian Conservative judgments against Clinton (past, media scandals, etc.; but that ties in to party lines if we're being honest)
- Christian Conservative ties to Republican values, therefore opposing parties are non-christian by association (I actually get a lot of this where I live).
- A perceived lesser of two evils (by what standard, though?)
- Loss of faith in government looking to an outsider as a savior (valid, but misguided here IMO).
- Businessmen and women looking to him as a role model for business ideals.
- Middle class members projecting their desires to one day be a successful business owner (he's one of us, because I want to be one of them?).
- Those striving for the American Dream (he will protect my taxes if/when I ever reach that dream).
- Angry and disenfranchised groups who want a simple soundbite as a catchall cause for their problems.
- Then there are those who seem to genuinely believe he is the better man. Personally, I think that that reasoning ties into one of the above, or a combination of them, but I really don't know.
I can speculate all day, but I just don't know.
I would honestly love to hear from a Trump supporter, especially if their reasons are different from what I've listed. Maybe it's just idealist principles. I can probably relate to that.
I should also ask why is another voting for Hillary? Honest curiosity at this point.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2016.09.29 21:54:00 -
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byte modal wrote:
I can empathize with those that view Trump as the F.U. vote as a commentary on trust in the political system. Or whatever. My problem there is that I've yet to talk with one person who is looking at Trump for that reason. I'm not seeing it online either. Granted, my experience is anecdotal. The ones that I do know who think on those terms aren't looking a Trump to be that finger to the man or even as a joke because they are aware that he could win and don't want to support that.
It's very likely that you might run into one such person if they happen to be a former Bernie Sanders supporter. A number of his supporters have vowed to either not vote at all or vote for Trump this coming election in protest of Hillary Clinton and the DNC if Bernie Sanders doesn't get the nomination. This is where the hashtag #BernieorBust came into being.
Well, fast forward to the days leading up to the Democratic National Convention and everyone found out through leaked emails (those pesky emails again) that the DNC conspired against Bernie and did everything they could to hinder his goal of getting the nomination.
Many of Trump's supporters vowed the same thing if Trump didn't get the nomination for his party. They're version of #BernieorBust so to speak. But Trump got the nomination despite all efforts from the RNC trying to stop him which now only solidifies his base of supporters and there is a likelihood that a fraction of those supporters include those who felt alienated by the Democratic Party.
To be fair, Bernie Sanders did try his best to motivate everyone to support Hillary simply because he doesn't want to see Trump become president, but I don't think that is enough anymore given the damage that was already done by the Democratic Party.
As for Trump, his party is still largely against him. Almost every member of his own party is still opposed to him in some way. So even if Trump get's the White House, it's very likely that the Republican Party in Congress will not work with him.
There is no doubt that Hillary does have experience as a politician, but the question here is more about her intentions. Is she REALLY going to enact the kind of change that she promises to the American People? Probably not. Will Donald Trump be able to enact change as he promises? I don't think so either.
So we have one of two outcomes that look very similar.
1. We get a lame duck president who can't get the backing from his own party and nothing changes.
2. We get a president who is very likely to forget the promises she made and just have more of the same keep happening.
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.09.29 22:14:00 -
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Do you really believe they will pull that trigger? See it all burn in spite? It's one thing to chest-thump. It's another to fill in a circle and live with the aftermath for four (or more) years.
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Maken Tosch
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Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.09.29 22:34:00 -
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byte modal wrote:Do you really believe they will pull that trigger? See it all burn in spite? It's one thing to chest-thump. It's another to fill in a circle and live with the aftermath for four (or more) years.
Don't tempt humanity that way. You just might get them triggered.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
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Posted - 2016.09.29 22:40:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:byte modal wrote:Do you really believe they will pull that trigger? See it all burn in spite? It's one thing to chest-thump. It's another to fill in a circle and live with the aftermath for four (or more) years. Don't tempt humanity that way. You just might get them triggered.
If they cared about Sanders ideals they will close their eyes and vote against Trump. They should also found another party ffs. Lib-Dems, Socialdemocrats exist all over the world except USA for example. Or just go with something new.
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John Psi
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Posted - 2016.09.29 23:12:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:...has been quite a good president, what was wrong with him?
He never can play DUST514, lol.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2016.09.30 00:17:00 -
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byte modal wrote:Do you really believe they will pull that trigger? See it all burn in spite? It's one thing to chest-thump. It's another to fill in a circle and live with the aftermath for four (or more) years.
looks to Brexit
I believe they would, yes.
We did it for Nigel ( ; ~;)7
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.09.30 01:35:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:byte modal wrote:Do you really believe they will pull that trigger? See it all burn in spite? It's one thing to chest-thump. It's another to fill in a circle and live with the aftermath for four (or more) years. looks to BrexitI believe they would, yes.
What? No. Britain got back control. You know. Control. Britain luckly just got out of the Kalergi plan.
Did you know that there's a plan (made up by the evil count Richard Nikolaus Eijiro) to kill us europeans all? Immigrants are forced to come to europe in order to replace the locals that are ageing and are not having sons. The economic destabilization happens on purpose by the evil EUSSR beaurocrats so that local people are going to have less children, since they can't guarantee their child a decent life. They are basically killing us all. And Britain finally got his sovreignty again! Finally! All Hail Britannia! All Hail Britannia! Down with the elevens....oh...no, wait. I just made up 99% of this post.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
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Posted - 2016.09.30 17:15:00 -
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:( thank you CCP Frame.
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.09.30 18:00:00 -
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wait. Was it locked? Huh no....oooh.
Lol really?
Wait.
OMG.
THEY'RE MAKING ROOM FOR NEW INCOMING GD TOPICS!!!
Release pending confirmed by CCP Frame!!1!
 
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.09.30 18:29:00 -
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byte modal wrote:wait. Was it locked? Huh no....oooh. Lol really? Wait. OMG. THEY'RE MAKING ROOM FOR NEW INCOMING GD TOPICS!!! Release pending confirmed by CCP Frame!!1!
Nah I believe it was moved since it could have been a bit "inflammable" topic....
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.09.30 18:44:00 -
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Hello, needle. My name is inflated balloon. Will you please puncture me so that I can deflate?
There was no innuendo intended in that request.
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Living Rock 523
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.09.30 22:30:00 -
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I cannot stress this enough, nothing said here matters at all even a little bit.
Vote how you like, the Deep State is going nowhere. And the Deep State is not a USA only phenomenon.
Take a look at what countries have fallen under the control of the IMF recently. Iraq, Lybia, and the newest prize, Iran.
And almost every nation represented on these forums is currently helping in the fight to deliver Syria at the IMFs feet.
I guess America's propaganda machine has become so good it's even bamboozling you Europeans. Candidates can receive anonymous campaign donations, having your name placed on the ballot costs a ton of money, in each state. As ridiculous as Trump is, his nonsense showed us that district representatives are allowed to ignore the law and not vote as instructed by their constituents.
As happy as I am about the rest of the world enjoying the Reality TV that is America, there is more than enough stupidity on the topic over here.
Again, the Deep State. The Bohemian Grove stuff is interesting as well.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.10.01 02:30:00 -
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Living Rock 523 wrote:I cannot stress this enough, nothing said here matters at all even a little bit.
Vote how you like, the Deep State is going nowhere. And the Deep State is not a USA only phenomenon.
Take a look at what countries have fallen under the control of the IMF recently. Iraq, Lybia, and the newest prize, Iran.
And almost every nation represented on these forums is currently helping in the fight to deliver Syria at the IMFs feet.
I guess America's propaganda machine has become so good it's even bamboozling you Europeans. Candidates can receive anonymous campaign donations, having your name placed on the ballot costs a ton of money, in each state. As ridiculous as Trump is, his nonsense showed us that district representatives are allowed to ignore the law and not vote as instructed by their constituents.
As happy as I am about the rest of the world enjoying the Reality TV that is America, there is more than enough stupidity on the topic over here.
Again, the Deep State. The Bohemian Grove stuff is interesting as well.
If you think anything, even a first world government, is going to get in between the world's wealthy elite and even higher profits, you are a fool.
I don't want to seem rude, but if there's something I really can't stand is this kind of intervention. Let me elaborate:
The "Deep State" does not exist. There's no "shadow" government. Aliens, if they exist, never visited earth. Nobody ever travelled through time. Chem trails does not exist. The IMF is simply a "tool" to prevent the spreading of an eventual economic crisis to the whole world. The Bilderberg Group is some kind of informal meeting between some of the world most prominent minds. There's no secret code in Vatican City. The Pope is not the devil. 2012 wasn't the end of the world.
I can go on all day long, but you got the point. And,I believe there's no need to argue the inexistance of conspiracy theories like the ones you mentioned.
If you were talking about a "deep state" which is a state that indirectly do big businesses interest, well that's actually an economic theory, part of macroeconomics. ( you can start fromhere, here, here and here...actually, it would be great to watch the whole series, for anyone  )
Of course, this doesn't mean that big businesses are directly controlling the government and also this doesn't mean that you as a citizen are not having big benefits from big businesses. Even if it is almost counterintuitive, people are the ones who gains the most from their own country big businesses. And, of course, your real government will do anything to protect those big businesses (actually, there's another economic theory that says it would be better to let the economy do its flow with no government regulation... but that's just one of them, there are many, more reliable macroeconomic theories out there).
On the only fair point. You're right: as far as I know your representatives can sometimes ignore their constituents will on certain subjects. That's exactly how representative democracy works. Think about brexit: the british parliament could very well veto brexit if they wanted to. Both the House of Commons and the House of Lords, but that doesn't mean they're going to.
You might want direct democracy, but that's a totally different discussion. And to be honest direct democracy has many flaws too.
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Living Rock 523
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Posted - 2016.10.01 11:20:00 -
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And I can't stand college age ignorant European's thinking they know everything about a topic they actually have no clue about.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.10.01 12:41:00 -
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Living Rock 523 wrote:And I can't stand college age ignorant European's thinking they know everything about a topic they actually have no clue about.
The only thing you got right is that I'm from EU  . Have you read the discussion with Talos? I ended up agreeing with most of his points, even tho we had different point of views. He made fair points.
So let's start again, why does the International Monetary Fund have something to do with Iraq, Lybia, Iran and Syria?
Believe me that "America's propaganda machine" is doing nothing really in EU. As you might see in these TTIP protests in Germany, UK, Bruxelles,Italy.
As you also might see here, and especially here, Eu is really not trying to do USA any favour, on the contrary, the first refers to some of the biggest businesses in USA that avoided billions of taxes in EU (mainly, Apple, Amazon and Starbucks) that now have to be payed and the second talks about Deutsche Bank that may simply not pay USA "fines" and I quote "dass wir diese Summe nicht zahlen werden".
So, given that USA "propaganda" is not bamboozling much, what are the other things you talk about? Why should there be a "deep state"? And what is it? And who are the people in charge of this deep state?
Also, why does Bohemian Grove has anything to do with all these things?
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byte modal
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Posted - 2016.10.01 15:19:00 -
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Hm.
*sneaks up onto the stage and bashfully takes the mic ...to lay it on the ground for him with the slightest thud*
Runs away before anybody notices.
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Living Rock 523
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Posted - 2016.10.01 17:11:00 -
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I'm currently at work, and I will get more in depth later on. But for now, the banking systems of countries such as Iraq, Lybia, I'm pretty sure Afghanistan, and most recently Iran have fallen under control of the IMF. In each case control was obtained just after the recent American campaigns in said countries.
Currently N. Korea, pretty sure Russia, and Syria are the only countries not subject to IMF oversight.
This fact alone starts to paint a picture of a one world government.
I am sorry to be so rude, but I'm sick and tired of the nonsense going on in my country, and to hear the same silliness from folks outside of this country is maddening.
And I'm 32, live in Florida, and if it were up to me Trump, Clinton, and every politician from Mayors up would be drug out into the street and shot.
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Posted - 2016.10.28 16:08:00 -
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People support Trump for a variety of reasons. One being that he isn't Clinton which is probably the most malign of reasons. People who support him based on his ideas and ' facts ' are falling for Adolf H.'s rule of mass manipulation: "Tell a lie big enough and often enough and people will believe it".
If you really listen to what he says then you would see that his arguments use circular logic to circumvent the need for hard facts. This allows his persuasion to come mostly of pathos rather than logos: that is pathetic argument over logical argument.
Another notable attribute of his is the ability to play into people's fear and desires (however misconstrueded they may be) through the use of the second person when giving speeches. First person references yourself (I, me, myself, mine). Third person references a third party (They, them, theirs). Second person references the person that is being spoken to (you, yourself, yours). This is a very easy way to simulate that the speaker is speaking on.behalf of the listener. It is a very passive form of manipulation and indoctrination. It is commonly used by people like sells men and entrepreneurs trying to pitch and idea. On people who don't choose to see through the veil it is an extremely effective tactic.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2016.10.29 18:56:00 -
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Living Rock 523 wrote:... if it were up to me Trump, Clinton, and every politician from Mayors up would be drug out into the street and shot.
The thing is that Humans are social creatures, so by nature anarchy cannot last for long. People will always rise above to become leaders. Democracy forces politicians to fight for the people because if they don't the people will vote them out. Politicians are there because the people chose them to be there. Bad politicians are a product of an ignorant populous.
The reason the electoral college was formed was because the Founding Fathers strongly believed that the majority of people are ignorant and that they would choose leaders unwisely. The current candidates show that this is indeed the case.
The only way to solve this is to add more transparency to the government and educate the masses more. A lot of people don't even know the powers of the President or Congress, and yet expect a lot from each when often they cannot do what people believe them capable of.
An ignorant electorate is the greatest threat to a successful democratic society.
So even if you ousted all politicians equally capable politicians would take their place because the electorate stays the same.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2016.10.30 01:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 is pretty smart, who knew?
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CLONE117
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Posted - 2016.10.30 22:45:00 -
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i can picture hilaries face next to a **** flag..
im probably gonna get alot of hate. trump says stupid stuff too.
but its just meaningless stuff i hear in lets say every day forum rooms like this. or even destiny forums.
and trump gets attacked for saying the same or similar stuff?.
damn near everything trump says. looks and sounds to be honest.
mean while hilary proganda is just. its cleary lies and propaganda and the people who believe it are idiots. and from the comedians. that take many funny nit picked shots at trump..
my question is why dont they also fire rounds at hilary was well? and question her as well?.
i dont know much about the entire situation my self but. it sounds like trump would be good for the U.S. hilary would just bleed the county dry from greed and corruption.
but with trump being a business man and everything. it makes me skeptical of him as well.
great potential is always there..
it just has yet to be realized
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2016.10.31 01:44:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:DeadlyAztec11 is pretty smart, who knew?
I watched a FilthyFrank video once, and I lost so many chromosomes that the doctors had to inject me with science: delicious, magical science!
Anyways, they gave me a thorough understanding of economics, literature, history and human behavior. They also enhanced my reflexes just enough to be the most dangerous AV expert/Scrambler Pistol/SMG/ scrub lord, but they made sure I always PTFO'd because they didn't want me to join DUNA corp.
Here we are three years later and I now have the greatest army of alts at my disposition. Order 66 was executed flawlessly. Its execution marks the start of a new era, a fair era. The four Empires are no more. Today we mark the start of the one and true Empire. We will hunt down any traitorous Jedi and bring their order to its knees. FOR THE EMPIRE!
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.10.31 14:30:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i can picture hilaries face next to a WW2 nazl flag..
im probably gonna get alot of hate. trump says stupid stuff too.
but its just meaningless stuff i hear in lets say every day forum rooms like this. or even destiny forums.
and trump gets attacked for saying the same or similar stuff?.
damn near everything trump says. looks and sounds to be honest.
mean while hilary proganda is just. its cleary lies and propaganda and the people who believe it are idiots. and from the comedians. that take many funny nit picked shots at trump..
my question is why dont they also fire rounds at hilary was well? and question her as well?.
i dont know much about the entire situation my self but. it sounds like trump would be good for the U.S. hilary would just bleed the county dry from greed and corruption.
but with trump being a business man and everything. it makes me skeptical of him as well.
but asides all that it feels like im just sitting around doing nothing and saying nothing. waiting around for death to come knocking.
but the thing is. i want to be ready for that day. and be the one to kick down my own door with a suit of power armor and a minigun spraying lead apon my foes.
Well, I just know some of Trump's Domestic policies, but for sure international policies are indeed a direct threat for us (europeans), for japanese and for NATO, overall. The very only thing I may agree with Trump is about that abortion of TTIP.
But yeah, let's face it, I don't really like both of them, if I were American I would just choose the lesser of the two evils, which in my opinion is Clinton, and I would have probably supported Sanders more than any other candidate. But I believe it comes down to the coception most of us europeans have of the State: which should be a social state that care about all of its people. For example we have free healthcare, state retirement plans, state education that only charge a (compared to US) small fee or totally for free if you meet certain conditions. But we probably pay more taxes.
I'll make a last question, why would you "picture hilaries face next to a WW2 nazl flag" when clearly the one that has much more in common with ***** (or, anyway, the new european far right) is Trump (xenofobia, populism, plain lies, strumentalisation of fears etc)? Or, why would you picture just her and not both?
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CLONE117
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Posted - 2016.10.31 15:48:00 -
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I mostly got that crazy thought after seeing some of hilaries crazy propaganda comercials.
just reminded me of that one old lady from Wolfenstein and everything.
but it seems a lot of people have setout to demonize trump from what ive seen so far.
I do kinda feel trump might be the better option though.
I think were really forced to dig deep into the whole mess to get any sort of true agenda though.
in the past I think Hilary has advocated for war. with trump and others basically s saying no.
and if you've watched a few of those debates Clinton kinda just laughs and smiles insanely through the entire ordeal.
I do believe Hilary to be a criminal.
as it is currently in the U.S (I don't get out much. pretty lazy myself.) and I never liked to bother with politics at all. but from the distant past it sounds like the U.S has been stumbling around lately.
a lot of stupid decisions being made.
and it looks like many sides have gotten involved and divided amongst themselves. id almost describe the whole thing as chaos it self.
but the thing is. when it comes to our politics. I'm thinking which one would be best for the place in which I live. which is infact the U.S.
right now Hilary has a corrupt cash train flowing into her own pocket. and with those scandals and the fact that shes supposedly had people killed and gotten off scott free. I don't think its a matter of simple politics any more.
great potential is always there..
it just has yet to be realized
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MEGA MAN7
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Posted - 2016.10.31 23:03:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:I mostly got that crazy thought after seeing some of hilaries crazy propaganda comercials.
You mean like this one XD : https://youtu.be/aoXDe8HxHBA
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CLONE117
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Posted - 2016.11.01 00:46:00 -
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pretty much.
that propaganda is just so damn terrible.
meme queen?. its more like shes the queen of cringe.
great potential is always there..
it just has yet to be realized
1st one in. and also.. The Last One Out....
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.11.01 05:35:00 -
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See, I don't really get this. It's not demonizing: I wouldn't even care about what he says in private, for example, but it's the things he says officially that worry me the most. More guns, really? A wall to stop mexicans coming into your country, wouldn't it be better to spend those money on healthcare? Wouldn't it be better to spend those money on education? On childcare? On pretty much anything that comes to your mind, actually. Lower corporation taxes to help big industries even more? These are just the domestic policies I know, you probably know more than me, but judging by these....
You just don't promise things that cannot be done. He shouldn't fool half Americans by just saying that things can be done because he's a "great entrepeneur" or by saying "trust me". Why would you trust him, anyway?
So...I can't understand. Yours is just a feeling or there's something more? Something I don't see? Because as much as you and I don't like Clinton, my pen would never cast a vote for Trump if I were American (and by the way, my general political orientation would be much closer to Republicans than Democrats, being it more right wing).
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CLONE117
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Posted - 2016.11.01 16:22:00 -
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i never really cared for either party to begin with. but i dont think we can take every word coming out of his mouth literally. he has said some stupid stuff.
and he isnt an actual politician
i think his wall thing was related to illigal immigration.
specificaly those that comeover to sell drugs and such to do pretty much the bad stuff.
although ive been paying a little more attention to some of hilaries party lately and the stuff coming out of there mouths is even worse. i mean blaming russia for hacked emails and wiki leaks and stuff?. im having a hard time grasping this stuff. if i watch my tv and all the news channels im not gonna hear a word about it. but the U.S. is supposedly on def con 2.
its a scary thing that might be actually happening at the moment. and its something the clinton party has not addressed or anything really. from what ive seen so far they just smile and laugh at any matter or allegations thrown at them with out even trying to dispute them.
with clintons history with the white house and her many stances in the past. this person will say anything and do anything just to have her own way.
i know i can make things alittle confusing sometimes. i get confused my self. its probably one of the reasons why i dont tackle arguments. i dont know everything i only know what i have seen and watched from the few sources of information i tend to access every day.
great potential is always there..
it just has yet to be realized
1st one in. and also.. The Last One Out....
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MEGA MAN7
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And the winner is...
*drum-roll*
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