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Posted - 2016.09.27 15:54:00 -
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I am not a Trump supporter, but I live in the SE region of the U.S. with maybe 98% of family, friends, and coworkers being staunch Republican. My opinion is painted by the history of my own past political views, experience, and in witness to the opinions of those around me. It's just an opinion.
From my observation, Trump is perceived as a political outsider that tells it like it is---their words. It is something that many can project their frustrations and biases onto and see reflections of a no-holds-barred aggressiveness that they would like to be part of. He speaks to the emotional frustration of a specific class and then targets "others" as the cause. I don't mean specifically race, nationality, or gender---his comments can be vague, but the individual will hear justification in fears that that individual may have already thought of; but when it is race, nationality, or gender, it becomes a focal point. Every loves a good witch hunt. To put it simply: he validates.
My guess is a lot of it also has to do with two simple facts: 1) He is our guy. In that sense, it's a football game. I love my team and hate yours. But that's what politics seem to be coming to regardless of sides. 2) His opponent is Hillary Clinton. She has her own history and baggage to carry. I typically lean Democratic but she gets on my nerves. I can imagine how easy it is for those already on the other side of the fence to hate her, when emotion is a strong impulse. Any word from her mouth also validates ;)
Iderno, man. Scares the sh!t out of me, TBQH.
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Posted - 2016.09.27 16:21:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
Still my question was another: I was asking why would people agree on some of the most extreme Trump positions? Wall, muslims, gun control, NATO and so on.
Because he validates fear and frustration and directs blame for that onto emotional talking points. That may not be so black and white, but the people agreeing aren't interested in gray sliding scales.
To me, it's irrational to rally for a man as a champion for the middle class when he claimed that he is smart for not paying taxes. There is no investment of education, infrastructure, or even military. But my friends are not interesting in debating those points, only pointing fingers and getting caught up in emotion. To me it seems that baser emotions are strong attractions. Not for all of his supporters, of course. But the one's I know here, it's primary. That and disgust for Clinton. Then again, that's emotion too so eh.
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Posted - 2016.09.27 16:31:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:
But, basically, that's just witch hunting, isn't it? Are really mexicans America's problem? Is building a wall the great solution that nobody ever thought before?
Of course it is. It's a witch hunt with no true definition of who or what that witch is other than "not me." If your life experience has created a prejudice against blacks? Then it's their fault with the BLM movement. If you're charged up on immigration, then your witch is a Mexican crossing the border to steal your job. Or whatever.
I'm not saying that there aren't problems here. There are. But nothing is so black and white as people want them to be. In a culture of right now, and immediate gratification that we are becoming, details matter less. It matters even less when emotion and anger take hold.
Hm. Again, I can't stress this enough but not all Trump supporters fall into this!!! This is my own frustration with friends and family. I guess I got caught up in it all lol. Hypocrite much? Yeah.... maybe so.
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Posted - 2016.09.28 15:28:00 -
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dude.
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Posted - 2016.09.29 19:21:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:If the Republicans had nominated Condoleezza Rice to run she could have blown Clinton out of the water. She would have picked up a good part of the Democrat vote on top of her Republican base.
Instead we have large numbers of Republicans debating whether they can hold their nose and vote for Hillery.
If the Trump vote is a protest vote it has already been effective. Trump getting nominated has hit the Republican party like a hydrogen bomb. The candidates they run in the next election will probably be very different from the lineup that ran against Trump. Hopefully they get the point that people are looking for someone who isn't just reading from the 1970's Republican PlayBook. It would be sad... although not particularly surprising... if they look at Trump's success and think they need to run racist misogynistic assholes.
Iderno.
I thought the same after Palin. Instead, they seem to have just double-down.
=/
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Posted - 2016.09.29 21:21:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:byte modal wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:If the Republicans had nominated Condoleezza Rice to run she could have blown Clinton out of the water. She would have picked up a good part of the Democrat vote on top of her Republican base.
Instead we have large numbers of Republicans debating whether they can hold their nose and vote for Hillery.
If the Trump vote is a protest vote it has already been effective. Trump getting nominated has hit the Republican party like a hydrogen bomb. The candidates they run in the next election will probably be very different from the lineup that ran against Trump. Hopefully they get the point that people are looking for someone who isn't just reading from the 1970's Republican PlayBook. It would be sad... although not particularly surprising... if they look at Trump's success and think they need to run racist misogynistic assholes.
Iderno. I thought the same after Palin. Instead, they seem to have just double-down. =/ Well I guess it's the same situation when everyone complains about Activision and Ubisoft for making bazillions of poorly made DLCs and putting out half-made games or copy/paste games. But then everyone buy the new Call of Duty.
Yeah, i agree with that more or less. But more, my point was to the comment of Trump's nomination hitting the Republican party like a hydrogen bomb. I absolutely believed that back with Palin was picked as VP running mate. I thought they would not pull something like that again in the near future. Instead, they've rolled with the group think emotion and here we are.
I can empathize with those that view Trump as the F.U. vote as a commentary on trust in the political system. Or whatever. My problem there is that I've yet to talk with one person who is looking at Trump for that reason. I'm not seeing it online either. Granted, my experience is anecdotal. The ones that I do know who think on those terms aren't looking a Trump to be that finger to the man or even as a joke because they are aware that he could win and don't want to support that.
Hell. I have no idea.
- Pure opposition to the other candidate (in spite).
- Party line divisions (football match).
- Christian Conservative judgments against Clinton (past, media scandals, etc.; but that ties in to party lines if we're being honest)
- Christian Conservative ties to Republican values, therefore opposing parties are non-christian by association (I actually get a lot of this where I live).
- A perceived lesser of two evils (by what standard, though?)
- Loss of faith in government looking to an outsider as a savior (valid, but misguided here IMO).
- Businessmen and women looking to him as a role model for business ideals.
- Middle class members projecting their desires to one day be a successful business owner (he's one of us, because I want to be one of them?).
- Those striving for the American Dream (he will protect my taxes if/when I ever reach that dream).
- Angry and disenfranchised groups who want a simple soundbite as a catchall cause for their problems.
- Then there are those who seem to genuinely believe he is the better man. Personally, I think that that reasoning ties into one of the above, or a combination of them, but I really don't know.
I can speculate all day, but I just don't know.
I would honestly love to hear from a Trump supporter, especially if their reasons are different from what I've listed. Maybe it's just idealist principles. I can probably relate to that.
I should also ask why is another voting for Hillary? Honest curiosity at this point.
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Posted - 2016.09.29 22:14:00 -
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Do you really believe they will pull that trigger? See it all burn in spite? It's one thing to chest-thump. It's another to fill in a circle and live with the aftermath for four (or more) years.
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Posted - 2016.09.30 18:00:00 -
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wait. Was it locked? Huh no....oooh.
Lol really?
Wait.
OMG.
THEY'RE MAKING ROOM FOR NEW INCOMING GD TOPICS!!!
Release pending confirmed by CCP Frame!!1!
 
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Posted - 2016.09.30 18:44:00 -
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Hello, needle. My name is inflated balloon. Will you please puncture me so that I can deflate?
There was no innuendo intended in that request.
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Posted - 2016.10.01 15:19:00 -
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Hm.
*sneaks up onto the stage and bashfully takes the mic ...to lay it on the ground for him with the slightest thud*
Runs away before anybody notices.
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