Tier it off. One Extra High Slot for Incy and One Extra Low for Python. Done. End of discussion.

And what is your justification for this? And why increase slots and not increase CPU and PG?

Done. Fixed it, thank you. End of discussion. Believe me.

Drop missle extneder lol use pg upgrade then just use enhanced hvy shields pro burner and enhanced hardner. Learn to rotate your mods and engage accordingly that fit is complete garbage. No disrespect intended. You can also use a burner complex hvy extrender and basic hardner increasing survivability but decreasing engagement and reengagement time. You can replace your hardner with a booster if you like but it really just isn't as good. There are a couple other good fits and I can even give you ones with multi turrets and the same survivability.

Engage with hardner on after first swarm hitn your burner and leave while identifying where the threat is. Turn hardner off before you are completely away and the burner when you're safe. You can now reengage knowing where the threat is and hit him from where he can't lock then land and place a link securing the overwatch. This is the basics. There is no way they can take you n out short of three perfectly timed calmandos using beacons and at that point you've pulled enough away from the real fight to still be doing your job. Call for your teammates at that point to wipe them and retake overwatch. Team play is op you know? Till then you can help on another objective. There is no large balance issue. As I said before ALL I do I pc is ads.

This is why people think ads is weak and others strong. There just aren't enough experienced pilots anymore in the game. People find the very rare good ones and can't ever kill them because we know our advantage and disadvantage. The ones that aren't as experienced lose tons of isk and think av needs nerfed.

Presentation?

... Can we work together?? You want anything to test, I gotchu.

Anyway, python needs both a small sHP buff and increased PG. It isn't right that any python fit w/o a PG upgrade is pretty much gimped.

The small sHP buff.... Probably 10-15% (150-200 sHP).. Sure it's not much but base eHP should at least have a little survivability on it's own.

The reason why I say no to tiered dropships is the incubus will become the flying madrugar.

We don't need flying madrugars. Imagine fits that even look at AV and laugh... See an enemy ADS and laugh. Knowing how volatile the community is towards ADS (according to history), that's begging for another nerf to ADS.

I always want about 5-10% (150-250) more aHP on the incubus because base aHP vanishes with proto swarms (they hit like wyr breach....) but that's just my selfish desire to survive a wyr breach

I wanna be able to fit all turret slots effectively. Hell, I'd be satisfied with 3 ADV turrets

Presentation?

... Can we work together?? You want anything to test, I gotchu.

Anyway, python needs both a small sHP buff and increased PG. It isn't right that any python fit w/o a PG upgrade is pretty much gimped.

The small sHP buff.... Probably 10-15% (150-200 sHP).. Sure it's not much but base eHP should at least have a little survivability on it's own.

The reason why I say no to tiered dropships is the incubus will become the flying madrugar.

We don't need flying madrugars. Imagine fits that even look at AV and laugh... See an enemy ADS and laugh. Knowing how volatile the community is towards ADS (according to history), that's begging for another nerf to ADS.

I always want about 5-10% (150-250) more aHP on the incubus because base aHP vanishes with proto swarms (they hit like wyr breach....) but that's just my selfish desire to survive a wyr breach

If I can get a word in, I'd like to help too. But I'm retired, so in game isn't going to be a thing for me.

I'm not entirely sure if Python should get a buff on HP, because if the PG buff is high enough, I can fit a complex heavy extender with hardeners and a light shield booster, getting well over 3000 overall HP, not including hardeners. I completely agree with PG buff however.

And on the tiered ships, it will entirely depend on where you put the extra slot. I personally think the python should get an extra low slow, and the inky get a high slot. One issue with that is that there aren't many low mods a python can use effectively (PG upgrade comes to mind, that's about it), and vice versa with inky (give me modules, or a bran muffin!).

I'd also like to see blasters get some loving, seeing them get back to how they were in beta. Also an AA variant, increased range, damage, and ability to break shields.

I'm quite positive I'm missing something, but oh well.

If the pg buff is quite... "large" i can see that an sHP buff really isn't necessary.

Honestly. Honestly. Honestly. Lower regulator fitting. That's what you missed Derrith

Love how people think that tiered dropships will result in sky tanks. It won't if CCP nerf hardeners and give all vehicles more HP to mitigate the loss of the hardener efficiency.

Then look at AV vehicle interaction and if AV stomps on them then slowly buff vehicles until a balance is found.

But anyway, dropships need more fitting room and ads need an extra slot cos it's completely rubbish they dont

Yes, i do think that will happen.

Not in the sense of shields, but in the sense of armor.

Nerfing armor hardeners is right, but buffing aHP because of that nerf doesn't feel right.

Just nerf it enough that aHP buffing isn't justified.

Give ADS resistance vs Swarms / PLC / FG / Blaster / Rail / Rocket ( 10% by Incubus / 15 % by Python )
One Extra Slot for Incubus & Python
normalize CPU & PG
Done

Would you like to explain why they should have innate resistances?

Look, if you want to buff LAVs and dropships, resistance bonuses aren't the way to do it, look at logi LAVs. Resistance on top of hardeners makes things even harder to kill.

I don't think CCP is even going to bother ever touching vehicles again, I'm just tossing out words for boredoms sake.

You could be right, but for the sake of balance, no resistance bonuses until we get to a point where AV is just about to be too good and we decide to either buff vehicles or nerf AV.

You're probably right, but it would be nice to have more fitting options, and for LAVs to not explode when you fart in their general direction.

It's sad that LAV's have poor eHP... Wish they could go back to what they used to be.

Give ADS resistance vs Swarms / PLC / FG / Blaster / Rail / Rocket ( 10% by Incubus / 15 % by Python )
One Extra Slot for Incubus & Python
normalize CPU & PG
Done