Drop missle extneder lol use pg upgrade then just use enhanced hvy shields pro burner and enhanced hardner. Learn to rotate your mods and engage accordingly that fit is complete garbage. No disrespect intended. You can also use a burner complex hvy extrender and basic hardner increasing survivability but decreasing engagement and reengagement time. You can replace your hardner with a booster if you like but it really just isn't as good. There are a couple other good fits and I can even give you ones with multi turrets and the same survivability.

Engage with hardner on after first swarm hitn your burner and leave while identifying where the threat is. Turn hardner off before you are completely away and the burner when you're safe. You can now reengage knowing where the threat is and hit him from where he can't lock then land and place a link securing the overwatch. This is the basics. There is no way they can take you n out short of three perfectly timed calmandos using beacons and at that point you've pulled enough away from the real fight to still be doing your job. Call for your teammates at that point to wipe them and retake overwatch. Team play is op you know? Till then you can help on another objective. There is no large balance issue. As I said before ALL I do I pc is ads.

This is why people think ads is weak and others strong. There just aren't enough experienced pilots anymore in the game. People find the very rare good ones and can't ever kill them because we know our advantage and disadvantage. The ones that aren't as experienced lose tons of isk and think av needs nerfed.

Presentation?

... Can we work together?? You want anything to test, I gotchu.

Anyway, python needs both a small sHP buff and increased PG. It isn't right that any python fit w/o a PG upgrade is pretty much gimped.

The small sHP buff.... Probably 10-15% (150-200 sHP).. Sure it's not much but base eHP should at least have a little survivability on it's own.

The reason why I say no to tiered dropships is the incubus will become the flying madrugar.

We don't need flying madrugars. Imagine fits that even look at AV and laugh... See an enemy ADS and laugh. Knowing how volatile the community is towards ADS (according to history), that's begging for another nerf to ADS.

I always want about 5-10% (150-250) more aHP on the incubus because base aHP vanishes with proto swarms (they hit like wyr breach....) but that's just my selfish desire to survive a wyr breach

I wanna be able to fit all turret slots effectively. Hell, I'd be satisfied with 3 ADV turrets

Give ADS resistance vs Swarms / PLC / FG / Blaster / Rail / Rocket ( 10% by Incubus / 15 % by Python )
One Extra Slot for Incubus & Python
normalize CPU & PG
Done

I entirely disagree, swarms eat the incubus alive, even the triple repped incubus can't survive a beacons if you have no AB. There really isn't any ADS fit I know of that survives swarms. The lack of any chance to dodge swarms or out-maneuver them leaves you with only one option, running. And I don't like to run.

All of those points are completely valid and are already on my list. I doubt that CCP will ever make the ADS transparent from the pilots POV but that alone would do wonders for ADS. And the render distance is a massssssive issue. We pilots literally spend most of our time dodging attacks from players that ARE invisible.

As an incubus rail pilot I can tell you that the incubus bonus to rails is pretty much useless at this point. It doesn't get any overheat bonus and the 15% ROF is almost unnoticeable. The DPS of a rail Incubus just isn't enough to be considered a VIABLE ( I cant stress enough of how gimped it really is at this point, it's so gimped I've literally seen 2 rail incubus pilots on the field in the past couple months and both times I already had my rail incubus on the field) AV vehicle. It's already useless versus infantry (aside from the occasional potshot) but on top of that we're stuck with it basically being useless for anything except LAV hunting and popping scrub tankers, it's good for removing a gorgon or myron from your airspace but any python you come across can easily get to safety before you pop him.

Well, look at it like this. Swarms are an anti armor weapon, it is their job to chew through armor like gum. As much as I hate swarms, it is unreasonable to say that they shouldn't be able to excel at fighting what they were made to fight, armor.

And on that extra AV guy, that is called teamwork, or a grudge. While it may not be fair to get tag teamed by multiple AV in an honor perspective, it's perfectly reasonable to expect to be killed. I've actually had to 4v1 AV in my time, and I won a few times. It's not easy, but not impossible.

I'm not really going to respond to the second paragraph, as I'm totally on board with that stuff.

Getting vehicle mods in a better place is crucial to all operators. Shields need to revert to original multi-pulse boosters, as does armor reps. We need some more low slot variety, Chassis mods, field stabilizers, etc.

I do agree that a2a the rail incubus is definitely superior but otherwise it's simply trash. Besides air to air and hunting LAV's the rail incubus is virtually useless. It stands no chance at popping a hardened tank and barely any at popping a non-hardened one, providing its got some proper reps and a fuel injector.

What team? Unless I play FW I'm always stuck with 9 blueberries in militia while I dodge officer AV. I can bring a squad but that's still only 3 players in pubs I can coordinate with. I don't feel like we should hinge bets on teamwork when we never even have full teams and 75% of one team is in militia and half of the enemies are running running officer. Aside from the occasional Qsync you don't really ever have a team.

And I am a big fan of the fiend.....

The hit and run scenario we're stuck with is my main beef with ADS, there is no lingering, if there's any AV in the area, especially a swarmer, it's come in with hardener on, fire a few, Afterburn away, tank the few swarms that hit you, outrange the rest, shut of modules, wait, repeat. It's the only playstyle we currently have and it's depressing.

I'm a god-awful pilot. But I'll pop in there tomorrow just to keep up on active pilots thoughts.