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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.02 14:46:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:FireBirdStar wrote:Give ADS resistance vs Swarms / PLC / FG / Blaster / Rail / Rocket ( 10% by Incubus / 15 % by Python )
One Extra Slot for Incubus & Python
normalize CPU & PG
Done Would you like to explain why they should have innate resistances?
Well back in the day, Logi ships had 2% resists per level of the skill, so up to 10%. Considering ADS bonus was brutally neutered into irrelevance, it would be nice to get something else out of it.
I for one feel that both ADS and LAVs should be receiving the same treatment as HAVs through tiers if nothing else. STD is a gimped version of what we have, ADV is the current, and PRO has an extra secondary slot with some extra PG / CPU to fit things (and possibly a slight buff to base PG for Pythons since they can't fit half their stuff right now)
If you then make LAVs more resistant, you can give AV some minor buffs to help them combat HAVs without making LAVs and ADS entirely irrelevant.
Honestly ADS is fairly survivable right now if flown correctly, so I don't want to go back to sky tanks or anything. However, I've always been a firm believer that the best way to destroy a vehicle is with another vehicle. I absolutely think concentrated AV fire should as well, however, I've always seen AV Infantry as secondary to AV vehicles.
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.02 15:00:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Look, if you want to buff LAVs and dropships, resistance bonuses aren't the way to do it, look at logi LAVs. Resistance on top of hardeners makes things even harder to kill.
I don't think CCP is even going to bother ever touching vehicles again, I'm just tossing out words for boredoms sake.
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.02 15:10:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Murder Medic wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Look, if you want to buff LAVs and dropships, resistance bonuses aren't the way to do it, look at logi LAVs. Resistance on top of hardeners makes things even harder to kill. I don't think CCP is even going to bother ever touching vehicles again, I'm just tossing out words for boredoms sake. You could be right, but for the sake of balance, no resistance bonuses until we get to a point where AV is just about to be too good and we decide to either buff vehicles or nerf AV.
You're probably right, but it would be nice to have more fitting options, and for LAVs to not explode when you fart in their general direction.
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
430
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Posted - 2016.02.02 15:38:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:It's sad that LAV's have poor eHP... Wish they could go back to what they used to be.
I definitely agree. A well fit LAV is EXPENSIVE and very easy to lose to all kinds of things. It would be nice to see vehicle combat encouraged, not just HAV combat. A well fit LAV with a railgun and 2 AV players is basically the bane of vehicles, if their ride didn't melt like the wicked witch of the west.
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.03 08:15:00 -
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Git Gud Bruh wrote:As an incubus rail pilot I can tell you that the incubus bonus to rails is pretty much useless at this point. It doesn't get any overheat bonus and the 15% ROF is almost unnoticeable. The DPS of a rail Incubus just isn't enough to be considered a VIABLE ( I cant stress enough of how gimped it really is at this point, it's so gimped I've literally seen 2 rail incubus pilots on the field in the past couple months and both times I already had my rail incubus on the field) AV vehicle. It's already useless versus infantry (aside from the occasional potshot) but on top of that we're stuck with it basically being useless for anything except LAV hunting and popping scrub tankers, it's good for removing a gorgon or myron from your airspace but any python you come across can easily get to safety before you pop him.
Not sure what you're doing wrong but AV Incubus is very strong at what it's good at, killing other vehicles. It's what I run primarily and I usually only die if I do something really really dumb or get suicided while I'm focusing on a tank.
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