Cosigning this statement.

anybody else that wishes to cosign your more than welcome to do so. EVE players we'll liberate your game for you.

Cosigning this statement.

anybody else that wishes to cosign your more than welcome to do so. EVE players we'll liberate your game for you.

I see you are used to being big fish in a little pond, please don't abandon the game when you discover you are little fish swimming with sharks.

Incorrect, we are here, we are watching, we are already determining which of you are the most intelligent, most capable, most organized, most dedicated, most desireable warriors to bring under our our wings on release day. We are already using the beta to winnow the chafe from the grain.


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WE don't care about your K/D ratio, it's silly - many of us will spend a great deal of time raining fire on you for the sole reason of ruining that k/d ratio to show you how silly it is.

You thump your silly little chests and speak loudly of your skills and abilities, attempting to proclaim your victory without knowledge of your enemy, without knowledge of your battleground, without even knowledge of your self.

The Goons are not to be feared, but do not make the mistake of underestemating them, in capability or in asshattery. Do not assume your "leet" gun game skills make you a better fighter, for they will not engage on your terms. Like many Eve corperations Goons attempt to "Win, then fight"

Play a few weeks of Eve - even just the free 2 week trial, travel through goon space, read the Eve forums to get an idea of what they have done in the past, and what they will likely do in the future, for the leopard does not change his stripes.

After you have done this, begin planning, begin organizing, begin co-ordinating. Then perhaps you may find victory.


Good Luck and Good Hunting - and remember "He who know himself and his enemies need not fear the outcome of a thousand battles"

4weeks, I have played the beta, and only few groups can play in teamworks, there are so many groups unable to reply or protect objective that is so frustating!

So many of them are unbrained..... Some matches, when I defend on the 3 objectives with few people, and then the ennemy team is coordonate taken the 3points in no time, I watch the map to see where are my allies, and they're all outside of the base..... Seriously it's not funny when you have to fight a coordinate team(the brained one) with a group of most unbrained people I have ever seen.

Many people need to learn teamwork and the most essential PROTECT or ATTACK objectives.

Well, this is something that can't change, like in MAG, when you need a medic there are 10medics near you but they don't res you....

They are watching, they are observing.... they are incredibly full of themselves.

I'm sorry, some of you Eve guys take yourselves way too seriously.

What makes you think they will be able to engage us from orbit? What makes you think we're not goading them into spending IRL money to get a PS3 and have their drop suits handed to them?

Win, then fight... indeed.

Ever played one of those other FPS games where the enemy kept raining artillery fire and other off map fire instead of actually fighting? I see the Eve spaceholders making that happen here - as frustrating as that is.

Yes the big alliances do take themselves FAR too seriously - this is what I am warning you about.

You are stepping into a galaxy where there are already existing groups thousands strong, who are experienced at teamwork and co-ordination. (Ever been the leader of a 500 man team? I have....)

These people you are talking about steamrolling are already here, in the beta. They have already infiltrated most of the "in" crowds. They will sink to levels you would have difficulty believing to achieve victory and conquer a system.

You don't seem to realize just what kind of environment you are getting ready to step into.......

There have been documented cases of DDOS attacks being used on a specific player to kill his internet and keep his Titan out of a fight.

There have been documented cases of someone actually going to the enemy fleet commander's house and turning off his electricity at a key moment to swing a battle.

There have been documented cases of Mega Alliances falling because someone put in multiple YEARS as a spy and when the time was right gave the alliances items and isk to their enemy before disbanding it.

If you think you are going to steamroll these guys - good luck
If you think it is going to be easy, then either you are stupid, or you just don't understand the extremes these people will go to in order to win.

If you think it is going to be easy, then either you are stupid, or you just don't understand the extremes these people will go to in order to win.

Ever played one of those other FPS games where the enemy kept raining artillery fire and other off map fire instead of actually fighting? I see the Eve spaceholders making that happen here - as frustrating as that is.

Yes the big alliances do take themselves FAR too seriously - this is what I am warning you about.

You are stepping into a galaxy where there are already existing groups thousands strong, who are experienced at teamwork and co-ordination. (Ever been the leader of a 500 man team? I have....)

These people you are talking about steamrolling are already here, in the beta. They have already infiltrated most of the "in" crowds. They will sink to levels you would have difficulty believing to achieve victory and conquer a system.

You don't seem to realize just what kind of environment you are getting ready to step into.......

There have been documented cases of DDOS attacks being used on a specific player to kill his internet and keep his Titan out of a fight.

There have been documented cases of someone actually going to the enemy fleet commander's house and turning off his electricity at a key moment to swing a battle.

There have been documented cases of Mega Alliances falling because someone put in multiple YEARS as a spy and when the time was right gave the alliances items and isk to their enemy before disbanding it.

If you think you are going to steamroll these guys - good luck
If you think it is going to be easy, then either you are stupid, or you just don't understand the extremes these people will go to in order to win.

Ever played one of those other FPS games where the enemy kept raining artillery fire and other off map fire instead of actually fighting? I see the Eve spaceholders making that happen here - as frustrating as that is.

Yes the big alliances do take themselves FAR too seriously - this is what I am warning you about.

You are stepping into a galaxy where there are already existing groups thousands strong, who are experienced at teamwork and co-ordination. (Ever been the leader of a 500 man team? I have....)

These people you are talking about steamrolling are already here, in the beta. They have already infiltrated most of the "in" crowds. They will sink to levels you would have difficulty believing to achieve victory and conquer a system.

You don't seem to realize just what kind of environment you are getting ready to step into.......

There have been documented cases of DDOS attacks being used on a specific player to kill his internet and keep his Titan out of a fight.

There have been documented cases of someone actually going to the enemy fleet commander's house and turning off his electricity at a key moment to swing a battle.

There have been documented cases of Mega Alliances falling because someone put in multiple YEARS as a spy and when the time was right gave the alliances items and isk to their enemy before disbanding it.

If you think you are going to steamroll these guys - good luck
If you think it is going to be easy, then either you are stupid, or you just don't understand the extremes these people will go to in order to win.

Dust players have nothing to lose, therefor we are probably THE WORST enemy Goon will probably ever face.

So what if they have thousands of members, so what if they're rich. So what if they have a **** ton of ships.

We have nothing to lose, there for, we have nothing to fear. Goon on the other hand has everything to lose.

Dust players have nothing to lose, therefor we are probably THE WORST enemy Goon will probably ever face.

So what if they have thousands of members, so what if they're rich. So what if they have a **** ton of ships.

We have nothing to lose, there for, we have nothing to fear. Goon on the other hand has everything to lose.

Ships
ISK
space stations
SOV
THEIR PLANETS


We can take a planet, have its guns attack the ships in orbit, and (maybe) take out the space station orbiting said world.

Go ahead and bomb the **** out of us, we'll just lose a few thousand isk, nothing too major, unlike your $billion rust buckets.

Even if we lose, it'll only take us all about an hour or 2 to gain all the isk back that we lose. Then we can just attack again, and again, and again, and again.

Sigh..... well I tried. I tried to inform you of the enemy you are choosing to face. I tried to warn you of the depths to which they will sink (all of the examples above were perpatrated by Goonfleet) I tried to tell you how to stand a chance of victory against my foes.

Um. The whole point is to merge the game universes. SO, stop making it DUST vs. *Stuff* make it [Whatever your corp is] vs. Goons..

The servers are down and we're losing our names --
These guys are just having fun trying to troll forums as pretend PVP. ^_^
Worry not, and be satisfied that you did your best?

Doesn't matter if its the goons or anyone else. We didn't bring them up, you guys did. Goonswarm is your champion? lol

My name will remain my name unless someone decides to asshat it away from me. Not hiding behind alts.

Energy may be likened to the bending of a cross-bow; decision, to the releasing of the trigger.

Amid the turmoil and tumult of battle, there may be seeming disorder and yet no real disorder at all; amid confusion and chaos, your array may be without head or tail, yet it will proof against defeat.

Simulated disorder postulates perfect discipline; simulated fear postulates courage; simulated weakness postulates strength.

Hiding order beneath the cloak of disorder is simply a question of subdivision; concealing courage under a show of timidity presupposes a fund of latent energy; masking strength with weakness is to be effected by tactical dispositions.

Thus one who is skillful at keeping the enemy of the move maintains deceitful appearances, according to which the enemy will act.

By holding out baits, he keeps him on the march; then with a body of picked men he lies in wait for him.
Sun Tzu, Ping-fa

I found out that they will be streaming live on Tuesday Night at 11pm CT on same site. They will have a in EVE game chat channel, just look up Podside. Go support DUST.

FPS players are to DUMB to organize.

This is the blog post

TCD ZionShad
I can't post on the EVE forum because I don't have an EVE account.
However I would like to see someone post this topic there and see the response from EVE players on this.

Can someone do this?


Please if you Quote edit it to show what your addressing and PLEASE stick to forum rules so this post won't be LOCKED. Thank you

Seemed to me most of us weren't going "OMG GOONSWARM! WE LUV THEM!" but in fact were going "they are a bunch of asshats and here's some reasons why and what we feel they are going to do in dust"

for some reason tho, a few of you don't seem to be able to read correctly, but there are those of you, i think it was you that was "i want to attack them, they sound like p****'s" and humperdink there seem to have the right idea, just be aware they are definitely quite the corp of dbags who's only desire is to make people angry and ruin your enjoyment of a game, intel is always key

Wasn't me. My position is one of indifference, but I'm leaning towards burn them all now. I didn;t know who Goonswarm was, it was the Eve players who gor butt hurt at the chest thumping who evoked their name like Goonswarm would show us our proper place in the universe.

I know what we should do, we will all align ourselves with Goonswarms enemies and then take ALL of their territory

[quote=MUDMASTEI2]ok, noted, you win, you are right, i concede forum argument to you so you can chalk up a win. clearly your perspective on all things is correct and i, am surely no where near your omnipotence in knowing how things are going to work out. I shall further from here not inform you of any perspectives i may have on your enemies tactics, because clearly there will be no accuracy whatsoever to them. i greatly apologize for even dreaming of insulting your intelligence in all things new eden, for you sir, are clearly in the right, and I am totally and undeniably in the wrong.

DUST 514 players can do things that keep EVE players from getting what they want
DUST 514 players are the gatekeepers of something that EVE players need

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