The top 2 things that kill me are shotguns and snipers, also every time I break out a thales I seem to get 20+ kills. I don't really feel there's a reason for a buff.

The reason you get 20+ kills is that it's too easy. If you were forced to snipe at a reasonable distance, say 1.5km, with some sort of believable range-accuracy dropoff it would be nothing of the sort. Any buff for the SR should also include a reworking of the physics and a change to the redline.

I think you misunderstood me. Im saying If I can get 20+ kills with it now, it definitely does not need a buff. If anything it needs a range nerf. That is all.

So snipers got a damage buff, an actual headshot multiplier, more ammo for the tactical variant... And you want to return snipers to their "former glory"?

Be honest, you want to be able to snipe across the entire map again, don't you?

The reason you get 20+ kills is that it's too easy. If you were forced to snipe at a reasonable distance, say 1.5km, with some sort of believable range-accuracy dropoff it would be nothing of the sort. Any buff for the SR should also include a reworking of the physics and a change to the redline.

So snipers got a damage buff, an actual headshot multiplier, more ammo for the tactical variant... And you want to return snipers to their "former glory"?

Be honest, you want to be able to snipe across the entire map again, don't you?

No, I want the maps to be larger, the range to be greater and a range-accuracy falloff, so they SR is at least something like what it's supposed to be.

Ok so are you the same person having a conversation with yourself? I find it too coincidental that you're both named Alena.

Only I can argue with myself!

You tell em me!

I snipe regularly, with ADV n damage mods with Profile Damps, in a Logi or Scout. N I think the red line problem can be solved.
Take the distance mesurment off so we can come out of the shadows.
Because when I frontline n get sniped I know where they are immediately.
I use they way my body falls, n the distance to figure it out.
If when head shotted there was no range then id set up somewhere nice, and in the thick of things
But if I can shoot one person, him call out the range and the squad sees which way his dead body rag doll
(best part of sniping is having someone run n u head shot them making the body fly over rails or slam into the ground)
then seems like the snipe role isn't as useful.
After saying that. A great change would be if behind the red line sniping u can't get head shots n bullets do half damage. If ur out of the redline normal damage for where u hit. Any snipers think that would help things?? Keep the KDR padders from being able to do just that, and if ur redlining most useful u can be is to call to your squad where the enemy is.

I remember back in the days of beta when the sniper was good. I remember starting off as a sniper, Atiim was actually the one who took me under his wing and taught me the DUST way. I remember the sniper squads back in the golden days of Snipers United. I remember going up against Sleepy Zan, Crusty Clown, and Gem Cutter. I remember when Symbs still used it. I remember my precious scout suit, i remember my trusty NT-511, i remember it all.

I adamantly defended the sniper namesake from a barrage of insults and attacks: "Redliners are the worst" "Snipers are just redline cowards" "Scrum, the lot of them" "Camping Cowards is all a sniper is" "They don't even help the team" I heard it all, and i have done my best to defend my sniper brethren. Indeed, Redlining is a scummy act, but that is not what a true sniper does.

I have seen my brethren renounce it's ways. Symbs refuses to use it, both Zan and Gem are gone, Crusty wishes it back to it's former glory, but he doesn't use it, i doubt my old friend Atiim uses it, he probably sticks to being an awesome matari commando, even I, who adamantly withstood such vehement attacks, even I who adamantly defended the namesake of my brethen, EVEN I WHO HELD THE CLASS TO SUCH LOFTY HEIGHTS, even I refuse to use the sniper.

When need our lofty perch back. We need our class back. No longer nerfed into oblivion, but returned to it's former grace. Despite despising the snipers of today, envious of their convinction, enraged when i actually get sniped, i want it back.

I wish for my brethren to help me come up with feasible calculations for an actual buff, even perhaps Aeon, since he says he has ideas. I know of degrees, but i need help.

In closing, Stay Gold Snipers.

No, I want the maps to be larger, the range to be greater and a range-accuracy falloff, so they SR is at least something like what it's supposed to be.