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Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:45:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:I remember back in the days of beta when the sniper was good. I remember starting off as a sniper, Atiim was actually the one who took me under his wing and taught me the DUST way. I remember the sniper squads back in the golden days of Snipers United. I remember going up against Sleepy Zan, Crusty Clown, and Gem Cutter. I remember when Symbs still used it. I remember my precious scout suit, i remember my trusty NT-511, i remember it all.
I adamantly defended the sniper namesake from a barrage of insults and attacks: "Redliners are the worst" "Snipers are just redline cowards" "Scrum, the lot of them" "Camping Cowards is all a sniper is" "They don't even help the team" I heard it all, and i have done my best to defend my sniper brethren. Indeed, Redlining is a scummy act, but that is not what a true sniper does.
I have seen my brethren renounce it's ways. Symbs refuses to use it, both Zan and Gem are gone, Crusty wishes it back to it's former glory, but he doesn't use it, i doubt my old friend Atiim uses it, he probably sticks to being an awesome matari commando, even I, who adamantly withstood such vehement attacks, even I who adamantly defended the namesake of my brethen, EVEN I WHO HELD THE CLASS TO SUCH LOFTY HEIGHTS, even I refuse to use the sniper.
When need our lofty perch back. We need our class back. No longer nerfed into oblivion, but returned to it's former grace. Despite despising the snipers of today, envious of their convinction, enraged when i actually get sniped, i want it back.
I wish for my brethren to help me come up with feasible calculations for an actual buff, even perhaps Aeon, since he says he has ideas. I know of degrees, but i need help.
In closing, Stay Gold Snipers. My favoured role (yes ROLE) in any game is sniper. I started this game as a sniper, all of 5 months or so ago. I still favour it, but I find it boring and pointless the way it's been nerfed and the redline reduced to the point of ridiculousness. A sniper rifle SHOULD have a range of at least 1km, even 2km, with the right marksman. The idea that ANY of the rifles, including the militia SR, would have a range of less than 500m is just stupid.
I will quite happily go back to sniping when the time comes, and still pull it out on occasion to countersnipe. But I'm not holding my breath for a buff... |

Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:50:00 -
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bane sieg wrote:The top 2 things that kill me are shotguns and snipers, also every time I break out a thales I seem to get 20+ kills. I don't really feel there's a reason for a buff. The reason you get 20+ kills is that it's too easy. If you were forced to snipe at a reasonable distance, say 1.5km, with some sort of believable range-accuracy dropoff it would be nothing of the sort. Any buff for the SR should also include a reworking of the physics and a change to the redline. |

Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.12.14 11:10:00 -
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Russel Mendoza wrote:Buff the damage. Buff the headshot multiplier. Nerf the range. Nerf the rof.
Make it ala forgegun for infantry.
Dmg 500. Headshot x350%. Range 300m. Rof 50.
Assault sniper rifle anyone?
Do you even know what a sniper does? You've just removed the role of sniper from the game. If that's what you want, just say it, it's easier. |

Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.12.14 11:11:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Yeah sure, lets go ahead and buff a weapon that can OHKO from 450m. 450m?!! Are you serious? A sniper rifle should do 2km with the right marksman. |

Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.14 21:25:00 -
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bane sieg wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:bane sieg wrote:The top 2 things that kill me are shotguns and snipers, also every time I break out a thales I seem to get 20+ kills. I don't really feel there's a reason for a buff. The reason you get 20+ kills is that it's too easy. If you were forced to snipe at a reasonable distance, say 1.5km, with some sort of believable range-accuracy dropoff it would be nothing of the sort. Any buff for the SR should also include a reworking of the physics and a change to the redline. I think you misunderstood me. Im saying If I can get 20+ kills with it now, it definitely does not need a buff. If anything it needs a range nerf. That is all. What it needs is for the redline to be moved to at least 1km radius from the centre of the map and the range of the SR increased to what it should be - 1 to 2 km. THEN, bring in range-accuracy falloff, so people can't just point and shoot with a guaranteed hit.
But all of this has been discussed before and apparently there is a memory problem with increasing the redline radius. So I think we can safely assume it won't be done. |

Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.12.14 21:30:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:So snipers got a damage buff, an actual headshot multiplier, more ammo for the tactical variant... And you want to return snipers to their "former glory"?
Be honest, you want to be able to snipe across the entire map again, don't you? No, I want the maps to be larger, the range to be greater and a range-accuracy falloff, so they SR is at least something like what it's supposed to be. |

Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.16 11:37:00 -
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god clone wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:So snipers got a damage buff, an actual headshot multiplier, more ammo for the tactical variant... And you want to return snipers to their "former glory"?
Be honest, you want to be able to snipe across the entire map again, don't you? No, I want the maps to be larger, the range to be greater and a range-accuracy falloff, so they SR is at least something like what it's supposed to be. Ok so are you the same person having a conversation with yourself? I find it too coincidental that you're both named Alena. lol I only just saw this! No this is a different Alena. This character has been around since the Beta days, although I never really used it. I don't know when this other Alena was created but I'm pretty sure it was later. Alena isn't exactly an uncommon name so I'm not really surprised that there's another one. |

Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.12.16 11:52:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:my main issue with the sniper rifle is that is to clunky for use and prometes a very campy playstyle. in which people are normally in un reachable areas. if they could be touchby lets say if we could reach these sniperswithout the need of derp ships id say it would be fine.
but... i hate that sniper rifle in general. always have always will.. if it was useable in side those main areas then it would be a different story. What you hate isn't the rifle so much as the role. Snipers have always operated at distance. Generally speaking, the only counter to a true sniper is another sniper. The whole point of the sniper is to operate from well outside the range of other weapons.
The tactical sniper rifle is a completely different story. That's more the sort of rifle used by people running with squads. Perhaps that's the sort of sniper you were thinking of? |
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